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When it comes to the week-in, week-out NFL ratings, skilled P.R. professionals know how to make bad numbers look good and/or good numbers look bad. Cumulative, all-encompassing numbers are more difficult to spin. And here are the cumulative, all-encompassing numbers for NFL ratings through six weeks, via Darren Rovell of ESPN.com: The audience is down by 7.5 percent. Specifically, 15 million people on average watched games for the first six weeks of the year. Last year, the number was 16.2 million. |
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but the NFL and its players should separate themselves from politics and potentially negative social activities. You want to protest as a player? Figure out a platform away from doing your job.
The problem with that is that these players (especially star players) are associated with their employers whenever they engage the public arena in any way. There's really no way for them to publicly express their political beliefs fully "away from their jobs."
Wherever they go, and whatever they do, their jobs go with them. (For a completely non-political example, look no further than how last January's infamous boating excursion caused PR problems for the Giants organization.)
And even if players do take political stands outside of the team uniform, we'll still have plenty of yahoos saying, "The only reason we know who the hell you are is because of your football team. So shut up and don't make them look bad."
It's just like Hollywood celebrities. They take political stances in their personal time, and people hate them for it anyway. "That's it! I'll never watch [so-and-so]'s movies ever again!", even though so-and-so might make some pretty damned good movies.
It all comes down to this, "If your politics don't agree with mine, get them out of my face." If all of these NFL players took the protest elsewhere -- even to, say, a public march or something -- once that is broadcast to the masses, there will still be a significant public backlash against them. The anthem/flag component is just a really convenient (and self-righteous) excuse.
Great post!
Look no further than the Jamele Hill suspension from ESPN.
That is a good point. I wonder how Joe blow would react if a guy like Kap kept his viewpoints "offline" or off the gridiron. If he went down to city hall and carried a sign would he face the same amount of backlash? You wonder...
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but the NFL and its players should separate themselves from politics and potentially negative social activities. You want to protest as a player? Figure out a platform away from doing your job.
This is the only correct take on this subject in my view. I don't want to hear who has the right to do what. This is a case of employees of a national and public company using their profession as a soap box. It's wrong.
And exactly HOW are they supposed to do it 'away' from their job (which begs the question, what is their 'job'? To play football, which they still do, or is it to stand for the anthem? Which is not necessary for them to do their 'job')? As someone said earlier... if a bunch of NFL players started a peaceful protest in a park in Washington DC where as part of the protest they had the anthem playing and they all kneeled during it... you really think that most of the folks who are boycotting the league because of the protests would say 'Oh... well since it's not on tv before the game... it's cool.'?
I'm going to go with 'no' on that one.
Again, I don't care and other than the pig socks by Kap I don't think anyone has been distasteful. But when anyone works for a business, they play by the rules of that business or they find a new job.
And there's no rule stating that they must stand for the anthem so....
Exactly. We should all be hoping the NFL good ship lolipop sinks. Lower ratings will have a trickle down effect that will only improve the fan's overall experience.
I know a lot of people who aren't watching. I can't say i have totally stopped watching but I have probably by 75%. Sick of social justice warriors in every aspect of life. You would think the players would stop because its just pissed off millions of people and obviously didnt have the effect they wanted. Just made things worst.
Now there's an idea!
(And it's also telling to see that the pearl-clutchers still haven't moved a single inch towards engaging the police brutality discussion.)
The Steeler/Raven rivalry is one of the biggest in football. It was a beautiful day for football and folks didn't show up.
Of course there are multiple reasons for this, but the players disrespecting the country and military vets is a significant factor. Why do you think the NFL met with players this week and Roger came out with the "We think all players should stand" statement today? They know this is a big factor.
I, as well, know people who have given up watching football because of it.
It's all BS anyway. I am amazed that anybody has a problem with this simple protest. It was a few guys (and some of the sharpest guys in the league) trying to make a change for something they believed in. Then the assholes stepped in with the disgracing the country BS. The people on that side of this story are the fools especially when they take it to the level of burning shirts, tickets and boycotting games.
Most of them have no fucking clue what this is about other than "No stand = anti-USA". What a joke.
It's all BS anyway. I am amazed that anybody has a problem with this simple protest. It was a few guys (and some of the sharpest guys in the league) trying to make a change for something they believed in. Then the assholes stepped in with the disgracing the country BS. The people on that side of this story are the fools especially when they take it to the level of burning shirts, tickets and boycotting games.
Most of them have no fucking clue what this is about other than "No stand = anti-USA". What a joke.
Pretty much.
And, IMO, it goes both ways as that applies to those not watching because Kaep hasn’t been signed. Although I do think it’s wrong he hasn’t been signed, he specifically said that he was prepared for whatever consequences he received because of it. Now that those consequences have actually happened I’m supposed to give up something I do for enjoyment? Particularly when I’m of the thought that the NFL really has nothing to do with the reason for his protest? As if once he gets signed... and starts standing for the anthem (leaving those who are still kneeling out to dry)... that makes everything ok. Police brutality has been addressed once he’s a Raven or Jaguar... yeah... ok.
. Through Week 6, in-game commercial inventory in the NFL broadcast windows has generated an estimated $1.24 billion in revenue, up 14 percent from the equivalent period last year. (It's worth noting that, to the networks' delight, a ratings dip coupled with flat or increased demand leads to an increase in the price of buying time in any TV program.)
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He hasn't played good ball and he's not a good fit for most teams. That limits a guys options. If you have a drop back passer do you want a player like Kap who runs different plays as your backup?
If he was a player teams felt could help them I think they sign him.
He hasn't played good ball and he's not a good fit for most teams. That limits a guys options. If you have a drop back passer do you want a player like Kap who runs different plays as your backup?
If he was a player teams felt could help them I think they sign him.
Feel free to think that. I really have no problem with it because it’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it.
It’s my opinion that he’s at least shown that he can play good ball... as opposed to almost all the backups in the league (and a few starters for that matter). Meanwhile you’re telling me that Matt Cassell has the same playing style as Mariotta (for the most recent example)? The only time I see folks bringing up the backup’s playing style vs the starters is when discussing this. Does Derek Anderson play like Cam Newton? Nathan Peterman like Tyron Taylor?
If it was strictly... or even mostly... about his supposed declining skills you’d think he’d at least get called in for a tryout with at least ONE team... but that hasn’t happened. Sorry buddy... but you can’t tell me that a guy like Weedon can get a job but Kaep can’t based strictly on his skills or lack thereof.
I’d love it if an owner would try to call his fan base’s bluff though.
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I think Kap not being signed is about his declining skills than anything else.
He hasn't played good ball and he's not a good fit for most teams. That limits a guys options. If you have a drop back passer do you want a player like Kap who runs different plays as your backup?
If he was a player teams felt could help them I think they sign him.
Feel free to think that. I really have no problem with it because it’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it.
It’s my opinion that he’s at least shown that he can play good ball... as opposed to almost all the backups in the league (and a few starters for that matter). Meanwhile you’re telling me that Matt Cassell has the same playing style as Mariotta (for the most recent example)? The only time I see folks bringing up the backup’s playing style vs the starters is when discussing this. Does Derek Anderson play like Cam Newton? Nathan Peterman like Tyron Taylor?
If it was strictly... or even mostly... about his supposed declining skills you’d think he’d at least get called in for a tryout with at least ONE team... but that hasn’t happened. Sorry buddy... but you can’t tell me that a guy like Weedon can get a job but Kaep can’t based strictly on his skills or lack thereof.
He almost got signed by the Ravens until his girlfriend sent out a racist tweet comparing Ray Lewis and the ravens owner as master and uncle tom:
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Ray Lewis was shocked cause he was going to bat for Kaepernick.
Also nice Kaep donating to group named in a honor of a cop killer (Assattas daughters) and him wishing the same cop killer aka Joanne Chesimard warm birthday greetings on his twitter. Guy is a scumbag and should never have the privilege of playing in the nfl again.
There aren't many jobs available to start with especially for guy who wasn't playing well.
He wasnt very good and now he doesn't have a job. That happens to a lot of players his age that don't protest.
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I think Kap not being signed is about his declining skills than anything else.
He hasn't played good ball and he's not a good fit for most teams. That limits a guys options. If you have a drop back passer do you want a player like Kap who runs different plays as your backup?
If he was a player teams felt could help them I think they sign him.
Feel free to think that. I really have no problem with it because it’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it.
It’s my opinion that he’s at least shown that he can play good ball... as opposed to almost all the backups in the league (and a few starters for that matter). Meanwhile you’re telling me that Matt Cassell has the same playing style as Mariotta (for the most recent example)? The only time I see folks bringing up the backup’s playing style vs the starters is when discussing this. Does Derek Anderson play like Cam Newton? Nathan Peterman like Tyron Taylor?
If it was strictly... or even mostly... about his supposed declining skills you’d think he’d at least get called in for a tryout with at least ONE team... but that hasn’t happened. Sorry buddy... but you can’t tell me that a guy like Weedon can get a job but Kaep can’t based strictly on his skills or lack thereof.
He almost got signed by the Ravens until his girlfriend sent out a racist tweet comparing Ray Lewis and the ravens owner as master and uncle tom:
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Ray Lewis was shocked cause he was going to bat for Kaepernick.
Also nice Kaep donating to group named in a honor of a cop killer (Assattas daughters) and him wishing the same cop killer aka Joanne Chesimard warm birthday greetings on his twitter. Guy is a scumbag and should never have the privilege of playing in the nfl again.
Yeah thanks. I’ve heard all of this before. Multiple times. The same thing over and over again.
The pic posted by his girl? Stupid.
The pig socks? Stupid.
The Castro shirt? Honestly... I really don’t know enough about Castro to give an opinion on whether it was tasteless or not. What I will say is that I’ve seen and heard many people... even a few Cubans... who don’t have the same negative opinion of Castro than others. I may not be remembering correctly but I believe Dan Lebatard, who’s family is Cuban, said he had no issue with the shirt. Again, may be wrong about that but I don’t think I am.
Considering some of the unsavory characters that were and are currently playing in the league, I think it’s laughable to suggest that he shouldn’t have the same privileges.
There aren't many jobs available to start with especially for guy who wasn't playing well.
He wasnt very good and now he doesn't have a job. That happens to a lot of players his age that don't protest.
Kaep would’ve fit in perfectly in the Titans offense. Matter of fact, it was then not signing him when Mariotta got hurt that pushed him over the edge and file that Collusion complaint (which I think he has no chance of winning by the way).
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I think Kap not being signed is about his declining skills than anything else.
He hasn't played good ball and he's not a good fit for most teams. That limits a guys options. If you have a drop back passer do you want a player like Kap who runs different plays as your backup?
If he was a player teams felt could help them I think they sign him.
Feel free to think that. I really have no problem with it because it’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it.
It’s my opinion that he’s at least shown that he can play good ball... as opposed to almost all the backups in the league (and a few starters for that matter). Meanwhile you’re telling me that Matt Cassell has the same playing style as Mariotta (for the most recent example)? The only time I see folks bringing up the backup’s playing style vs the starters is when discussing this. Does Derek Anderson play like Cam Newton? Nathan Peterman like Tyron Taylor?
If it was strictly... or even mostly... about his supposed declining skills you’d think he’d at least get called in for a tryout with at least ONE team... but that hasn’t happened. Sorry buddy... but you can’t tell me that a guy like Weedon can get a job but Kaep can’t based strictly on his skills or lack thereof.
He almost got signed by the Ravens until his girlfriend sent out a racist tweet comparing Ray Lewis and the ravens owner as master and uncle tom:
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Ray Lewis was shocked cause he was going to bat for Kaepernick.
Also nice Kaep donating to group named in a honor of a cop killer (Assattas daughters) and him wishing the same cop killer aka Joanne Chesimard warm birthday greetings on his twitter. Guy is a scumbag and should never have the privilege of playing in the nfl again.
Yeah thanks. I’ve heard all of this before. Multiple times. The same thing over and over again.
The pic posted by his girl? Stupid.
The pig socks? Stupid.
The Castro shirt? Honestly... I really don’t know enough about Castro to give an opinion on whether it was tasteless or not. What I will say is that I’ve seen and heard many people... even a few Cubans... who don’t have the same negative opinion of Castro than others. I may not be remembering correctly but I believe Dan Lebatard, who’s family is Cuban, said he had no issue with the shirt. Again, may be wrong about that but I don’t think I am.
Considering some of the unsavory characters that were and are currently playing in the league, I think it’s laughable to suggest that he shouldn’t have the same privileges.
He openly worships a cop killer!! He wears pig socks!! He espouses Nation of Islam rhetoric (SPLC has them listed as a hate group due to their racist and anti-semetism) all the time on his twitter. Castro was a murdering dictator!! He also likes Che Gueverra another murderer. Come on man this guy should be ostracized by society and would be if the media actually reported the facts about this guy.
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That's pretty darn good. And not have a job in the NFL?
I was also under the impression that his g/f tweeted that out after the Ravens owner had a change of heart (still, zero excuse).
And the guy does have a litany of stuff hovering over him......no question there.
What I think is happening is that for a LONG time now, you've had players and coaches who behaved badly and are hard to root for. From EE in Dallas abusing women, Greg Hardy abusing women, Josh Brown, Ray Rice hitting a woman and Goodell mishandling it, the Patriots cheating, Bountygate in New Orleans, and the list goes on.
And then you get social media, and seeing what the players really think..and a lot of them don't handle that well.
Hard to root for your team now.
The kneeling is just the feather that broke the camel's back here. The NFL has a horrible image right now, the players appear to be self centered, out of control, and just generally un-likeable. It's not really true, I'll bet 90% plus of the NFL are great guys, but the problem is the 10% or so that are always in the news for the wrong reasons.
There's a reason why the NFL used to be so protective of their image. Under Goodell, that's gone to hell. He's making money for the owners, but the league has suffered.
16 TD
4 INT.
That's pretty darn good. And not have a job in the NFL?
I was also under the impression that his g/f tweeted that out after the Ravens owner had a change of heart (still, zero excuse).
And the guy does have a litany of stuff hovering over him......no question there.
According to Ray Lewis they were still discussing:
Ray Lewis:
"“Then his girl goes out and put out this racist gesture and doesn’t know we are in the back office about to try to get this guy signed. Steve Bisciotti has said it himself, ‘How can you crucify Ray Lewis when Ray Lewis is the one calling for Colin Kaepernick?’ “
1. Making it freely and widely available. Increase the amount of games available (Sun, Thurs night games) and the base of possible viewers and you increase demand.
2. Making the teams all appear competitive (FA, caps) at least to start the season increases viewership.
3. Making the NFL brand represent things that unite Americans (supporting the troops, fighting breast cancer).
Over time the 16.2MM viewers from last year includes marginally interested viewers. Some recent changes to the product (politically divisive views, CTE issues) have impacted the cost, which is bringing the demand back down.
Not a big deal. I don't need all of America to be on the NFL's bandwagon anyway. I get sick of people who don't know their own team's players and half-watch games teaching me about the sport.
Not sure what your problem is FUCKTARD, but crawl back under your rock and go fuck yourself.
DUMB fucks like you really ruin this site.
Who knows......Lewis is not one to be taken at face value I'd say.
Even Phil Simms was a skeptic, wondering why the story had never come out before Lewis talked about it on Inside the NFL.........
As for the politics, I don’t know what to tell people offended. I’d suggest they do some research on racial equality and some of the issues these players are peacefully protesting.
Is is "the quality of the games"? I have a hard time believing that most people who watch football have any substantive opinion on game "quality" beyond "it's a good game when my team wins and a bad game when my team loses"?
Is it CTE/Concussion issues? I doubt many people are even that aware of this and that it makes a big difference either way for people who do.
Is it the protests? The pro and con Kaepernick people? There's a lot of virtue signaling over these issues, but I have a hard time believing that there are really that many sensitive snowflakes out there who can't bear the thought of a few NFL players on their knee for the national anthem so much that they actually skip out on watching a game they would otherwise enjoy.
The bottom line is that TV network ratings are down across the board.
http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-ratings-premiere-week-20171004-story.html
There it is in a nutshell. Live TV viewership is down across the board. That's not my opinion. That's not some story some guy told me. That's based on actual data.
All the rest of this stuff is just noise.
If the NFL could reduce the time commitment and cut out all comme4cials except at the quarter/half and shift to in view brief commercials while shifting between possei9ns and creatively advertise like soccer does I think the game time would be much shorter and more predictable.
Viewership would go up.
Is is "the quality of the games"? I have a hard time believing that most people who watch football have any substantive opinion on game "quality" beyond "it's a good game when my team wins and a bad game when my team loses"?
Is it CTE/Concussion issues? I doubt many people are even that aware of this and that it makes a big difference either way for people who do.
Is it the protests? The pro and con Kaepernick people? There's a lot of virtue signaling over these issues, but I have a hard time believing that there are really that many sensitive snowflakes out there who can't bear the thought of a few NFL players on their knee for the national anthem so much that they actually skip out on watching a game they would otherwise enjoy.
The bottom line is that TV network ratings are down across the board.
http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-ratings-premiere-week-20171004-story.html
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The combined audience for ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox and CW for the week of Sept. 25 through Oct. 1 was down 11% from a year ago, continuing the long-term trend of viewers shifting away from watching TV live.
There it is in a nutshell. Live TV viewership is down across the board. That's not my opinion. That's not some story some guy told me. That's based on actual data.
All the rest of this stuff is just noise.
Not according to polls, this one is line with most of the others I've seen:
The excision of those results showed that nearly a third - 30% - said they were watching fewer games this season (9% were watching more, 55% about the same), and that 52% of those watching less gave the reason as players protesting the national anthem.
91% of NFL Fans Still Prefer Games on Traditional TV
The poll also revealed that despite talks of "cord-cutting" and efforts to introduce other devices for fans to follow games, 91% of NFL fans still watch the games on traditional television, with only 4% saying "on computer" and just 1% citing a mobile device.
"If this is the emerging technology for watching live football, it clearly has a long way to go," noted Rick Gentile, director of the Seton Hall Sports Poll, which is sponsored by The Sharkey Institute.
The poll of 845 adults (on both landline and cellphone) was conducted across the US. It has a margin of error of 3.4%. 411 of the respondents made up the "fans of the NFL" sample.
Too obtuse to realize that sitting on a flag is way worse than kneeling, and definitely not smart enough to boycott the game. I'm sure some people do boycott, but not enough to make a noticeable effect on viewship decline.
The anti-kneelers are diehards and aren't going anywhere, they are too busy yelling about respecting the flag while ironically disrespecting it themselves.
I think Gary is spot on with the overall TV viewership decline. Anecdotally, I don't know a single person who has stopped watching because of kneeling.
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Well whatever the reasons, for me, this issue has really taken away from the fun and excitement of watching football which was one of my goto passions/escapes from the daily stresses of life like work, raising teenagers, taking care of elderly parents, etc.
That's a good game!
If you make millions to play a game and yet you protest racial inequality in this country then you are a walking contradiction.
The NFL is predominantly black as it pertains to the players. These guys are celebrities and could collectivEly do SO much for the plight of the poor black kid that they feel is targeted by the police. They travel to different cities every week with a certain amount of free time in each city. How many players have met with local police chiefs to discuss the issues? Including preseason 10 teams will have been through Chicago. How many players did ANYTHING about stopping the senseless killing of black kids there? 1% if that.
The anthem protest is like me standing in front of my house on fire with my fist up and yelling for all of my neighbors to get their garden hoses to help. If you want change then MAKE change. Don't pass it off on someone else by kneeling. That is a cop out.
The bigger problem is how those like tbone here (awesome guy by the way) are just baited and indoctrinated by the mass media hysteria over an agenda. It is specifically designed to keep minorities in a lower social class and it is disgusting. There are legitimate political science papers on the topic and Noam Chomsky speaks on it. The media waits with bated breath until an Eric Garner or Michael Brown happens to fan the flames. This keeps us divided politically and controlled as a population.
See.....I don't speak about it here but I am myself a minority. I am mixed race. You know why I don't feel oppressed every day? Because I don't ACT like I am oppressed every day. I don't use my racial background as a crutch when things don't break my way. I don't see myself as a 2nd class citizen and because of that nobody treats me like one. I've been called Uncle Tom and Oreo but that doesn't affect me because I do what is right and take responsibility for my actions. If you called me an Eagles fan I would be pissed though.
Especially the gay ones.
I do tend to waver a bit from the main topic. Good point.
If you make millions to play a game and yet you protest racial inequality in this country then you are a walking contradiction.
The NFL is predominantly black as it pertains to the players. These guys are celebrities and could collectivEly do SO much for the plight of the poor black kid that they feel is targeted by the police. They travel to different cities every week with a certain amount of free time in each city. How many players have met with local police chiefs to discuss the issues? Including preseason 10 teams will have been through Chicago. How many players did ANYTHING about stopping the senseless killing of black kids there? 1% if that.
The anthem protest is like me standing in front of my house on fire with my fist up and yelling for all of my neighbors to get their garden hoses to help. If you want change then MAKE change. Don't pass it off on someone else by kneeling. That is a cop out.
The bigger problem is how those like tbone here (awesome guy by the way) are just baited and indoctrinated by the mass media hysteria over an agenda. It is specifically designed to keep minorities in a lower social class and it is disgusting. There are legitimate political science papers on the topic and Noam Chomsky speaks on it. The media waits with bated breath until an Eric Garner or Michael Brown happens to fan the flames. This keeps us divided politically and controlled as a population.
See.....I don't speak about it here but I am myself a minority. I am mixed race. You know why I don't feel oppressed every day? Because I don't ACT like I am oppressed every day. I don't use my racial background as a crutch when things don't break my way. I don't see myself as a 2nd class citizen and because of that nobody treats me like one. I've been called Uncle Tom and Oreo but that doesn't affect me because I do what is right and take responsibility for my actions. If you called me an Eagles fan I would be pissed though.
I’m sorry but this is a silly post. I’m not going to call you anything. I don’t know you except for a few exchanges here or there and you don’t know me.
First off, you start off this post with the silly idea that because the men are able to play a sport and make some money doing it, they have no right to speak ANY injustice they may want to speak out against. Or is that just RACIAL injustices? But if they wanted to speak out against that pipeline saga in the Dakota, for example... that would be ok? Just trying to figure out where the line is drawn as to what they’re allowed to talk about and what not. To suggest that because these men are making a lot of money NOW that they can’t relate, understand, or speak on some of the injustices going on is just ... dumb. Where do you think most of these guys come from... Beverly Hills?
Regarding your comment about NFL players doing more.. you don’t know how much time these guys spend doing various charity work (sometimes at the request of the team, other times for their own charities)... BUT coming from a different angle, why are you making this about ‘poor black kids’? Police brutality has occurred to people of all ages. Like the ‘You make too much money to be protesting!’ argument above... no offense... but I don’t think you have as good a grasp on this issue as you think you do if you think NFL players going to more schools and gyms to talk to kids is gonna stop a cop from shooting someone unarmed in the back... and getting a paid vacation out of it usually. But you go on thinking that if it helps you.
Your analogy is just.... I just... I just don’t get it. And I’ve tried. A lot. I would say it’s silly but really? It makes no sense to me.Sorry. Please feel free to explain further.
Regarding your last two paragraphs. I’ll just say, again, you don’t know me. If you’re one of those conspiracy-type guys who believe people of color are being harassed, beaten and sometimes killed by some imaginary media agenda please feel free. Meanwhile, those of us who are living the shit will keep on keeping on. Having to deal with racism... REAL racism isn’t fun. At least not for most of us. I’m happy to hear that you’ve become the person you are (you seem like an ok guy despite your misguided views) through nothing else but your own sheer will, determination and hard work. I’m also happy that it appears you haven’t had too many cases where you’ve experienced some form of racism/police brutality yourself. I sincerely hope it stays that way your whole life.
But all that said, pointing out that something is wrong does not make one a victim or means they suffer from some kind of ‘victimhood’ mentality. Again, to suggest that is silly. What about Hollywood actors and actresses who speak out against it? They see themselves as second class citizens too? They have this ‘victimhood’ mentality too? Or is this confined to just celebrities? Can a high level corporate executive speak out against it and not be considered someone claiming to be a victim?
I’ve never felt ‘oppressed’ myself. But I damn sure have experienced my fair share of police harassment and brutality... and I didn’t need CNN to tell me I should be upset about it.
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like Limerick Guy. A credit to every thread he visits.
I do tend to waver a bit from the main topic. Good point.
Yeah well you wavered on this one too IMO.
Also, another thing that I've seen decline immensely in the last decade has been the simple broadcast quality of the pre and post game shows.
Does anyone actually watch the complete garbage that the NFL network puts out?!
It's literally morons like Deion Sanders and LT having conversations while highlights are playing.
THAT passes for broadcasting these days?!