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| When it comes to the week-in, week-out NFL ratings, skilled P.R. professionals know how to make bad numbers look good and/or good numbers look bad. Cumulative, all-encompassing numbers are more difficult to spin. And here are the cumulative, all-encompassing numbers for NFL ratings through six weeks, via Darren Rovell of ESPN.com: The audience is down by 7.5 percent. Specifically, 15 million people on average watched games for the first six weeks of the year. Last year, the number was 16.2 million. |
Is is "the quality of the games"? I have a hard time believing that most people who watch football have any substantive opinion on game "quality" beyond "it's a good game when my team wins and a bad game when my team loses"?
Is it CTE/Concussion issues? I doubt many people are even that aware of this and that it makes a big difference either way for people who do.
Is it the protests? The pro and con Kaepernick people? There's a lot of virtue signaling over these issues, but I have a hard time believing that there are really that many sensitive snowflakes out there who can't bear the thought of a few NFL players on their knee for the national anthem so much that they actually skip out on watching a game they would otherwise enjoy.
The bottom line is that TV network ratings are down across the board.
http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-ratings-premiere-week-20171004-story.html
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The combined audience for ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox and CW for the week of Sept. 25 through Oct. 1 was down 11% from a year ago, continuing the long-term trend of viewers shifting away from watching TV live.
There it is in a nutshell. Live TV viewership is down across the board. That's not my opinion. That's not some story some guy told me. That's based on actual data.
All the rest of this stuff is just noise.
Spot on post. I think each of those you mentioned may be playing a factor into it but it's a minor one. I would also add that the Thursday Night game is it's own worse enemy and a huge drag on the viewership numbers. The other factor that may be causing the decline is that the usual big draws (Dallas, Giants, NE, Pitt, GB..etc..etc)
are not performing as well as they usually do. That will lose you a bunch of the casual fan viewership
But the most telling factor is that Network television in itself is down across the board.
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Limerick’s post, and I can see how some would feel that way about players being a walking contradiction, however , what they are doing is speaking up for those who will not or cannot be heard, which is why I am ok with that part.
Keep in mind this is just my opinion. A few thoughts:
1. When does the protest reach it’s conclusion? I’d say most Americans, unless they are under a rock are aware of the issues in this instance. What would be meaningful progress to these players? I know it’s very subjective but the progress on the issue of police brutality towards minorities may be enough for some but not be enough for others when there is progress made.
2. When Trump made his comments on this, that’s when I believe the message of the protests had been fully lost, instead of the issue being at the forefront, the act of protesting itself became the headliner.
3. The NFL is a private business entity. The owners would be well within their rights to make a rule that all players stand for the national anthem. They would not be infringing on any rights. Freedom of speech/expression has nothing to do with it, that only pertains to the government itself sensoring or persecuting individuals and organizations for their views.
4. I respect all sides of this, that’s the beauty of this country, we can all have an opinion, I always think there’s more then one path to a solution, and I think this protested issue has reached the solution stage. Instead of further protests I would be more interested in seeing meaningful discussion and solutions implemented.
This is a good post. And I would love for number 4 to come to fruition. Both sides just Protest and Yet i haven’t heard one solution put forth in regards to what both protests want to accomplish. I guess the non game watchers are angling for the players to stand and “show respect” to the military (but the protests aren’t anti military in intent.). The kneelers want some form of social justice, but how do they want it achieved? What’s the end game? This part is what’s frustrating to many of the non watchers. Someone needs to articulate this plan/view before any progress can begin to happen. Just saying cops are targeting minorities and it needs to stop isn’t going to solve this. Lay out a comprehensive plan detailing everything from specific incidents that have taken place and exactly how they can and will fix this kind of incident from happening again. Body cameras is a start, but what next?
The reason why the NFL can't really force the standing during the Anthem is that even though the teams are Private Entities the vast majority of venues they play in are not. They are for the most part publically funded stadiums which therefore means you can't really force anyone to do anything in a public forum
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Limerick’s post, and I can see how some would feel that way about players being a walking contradiction, however , what they are doing is speaking up for those who will not or cannot be heard, which is why I am ok with that part.
Keep in mind this is just my opinion. A few thoughts:
1. When does the protest reach it’s conclusion? I’d say most Americans, unless they are under a rock are aware of the issues in this instance. What would be meaningful progress to these players? I know it’s very subjective but the progress on the issue of police brutality towards minorities may be enough for some but not be enough for others when there is progress made.
2. When Trump made his comments on this, that’s when I believe the message of the protests had been fully lost, instead of the issue being at the forefront, the act of protesting itself became the headliner.
3. The NFL is a private business entity. The owners would be well within their rights to make a rule that all players stand for the national anthem. They would not be infringing on any rights. Freedom of speech/expression has nothing to do with it, that only pertains to the government itself sensoring or persecuting individuals and organizations for their views.
4. I respect all sides of this, that’s the beauty of this country, we can all have an opinion, I always think there’s more then one path to a solution, and I think this protested issue has reached the solution stage. Instead of further protests I would be more interested in seeing meaningful discussion and solutions implemented.
This is a good post. And I would love for number 4 to come to fruition. Both sides just Protest and Yet i haven’t heard one solution put forth in regards to what both protests want to accomplish. I guess the non game watchers are angling for the players to stand and “show respect” to the military (but the protests aren’t anti military in intent.). The kneelers want some form of social justice, but how do they want it achieved? What’s the end game? This part is what’s frustrating to many of the non watchers. Someone needs to articulate this plan/view before any progress can begin to happen. Just saying cops are targeting minorities and it needs to stop isn’t going to solve this. Lay out a comprehensive plan detailing everything from specific incidents that have taken place and exactly how they can and will fix this kind of incident from happening again. Body cameras is a start, but what next?
The reason why the NFL can't really force the standing during the Anthem is that even though the teams are Private Entities the vast majority of venues they play in are not. They are for the most part publically funded stadiums which therefore means you can't really force anyone to do anything in a public forum
How can the NBA force players to stand for the anthem? Is every NBA arena privately funded?
What's really taken off for the them are products like Verizon's Red Zone, where they can scan the whole card while keeping tabs of their fantasy teams and gambling bets.
I went to the first two home games this season. I concluded that there really are no true Giant fans anymore who are between the ages of, say, 25-40 years old . These people are cyber Fellow Travelers . They are into the food, their broads, phones and appearance .
I think for them the game itself is a distraction at best, a nuisance at worst.
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Limerick’s post, and I can see how some would feel that way about players being a walking contradiction, however , what they are doing is speaking up for those who will not or cannot be heard, which is why I am ok with that part.
Keep in mind this is just my opinion. A few thoughts:
1. When does the protest reach it’s conclusion? I’d say most Americans, unless they are under a rock are aware of the issues in this instance. What would be meaningful progress to these players? I know it’s very subjective but the progress on the issue of police brutality towards minorities may be enough for some but not be enough for others when there is progress made.
2. When Trump made his comments on this, that’s when I believe the message of the protests had been fully lost, instead of the issue being at the forefront, the act of protesting itself became the headliner.
3. The NFL is a private business entity. The owners would be well within their rights to make a rule that all players stand for the national anthem. They would not be infringing on any rights. Freedom of speech/expression has nothing to do with it, that only pertains to the government itself sensoring or persecuting individuals and organizations for their views.
4. I respect all sides of this, that’s the beauty of this country, we can all have an opinion, I always think there’s more then one path to a solution, and I think this protested issue has reached the solution stage. Instead of further protests I would be more interested in seeing meaningful discussion and solutions implemented.
This is a good post. And I would love for number 4 to come to fruition. Both sides just Protest and Yet i haven’t heard one solution put forth in regards to what both protests want to accomplish. I guess the non game watchers are angling for the players to stand and “show respect” to the military (but the protests aren’t anti military in intent.). The kneelers want some form of social justice, but how do they want it achieved? What’s the end game? This part is what’s frustrating to many of the non watchers. Someone needs to articulate this plan/view before any progress can begin to happen. Just saying cops are targeting minorities and it needs to stop isn’t going to solve this. Lay out a comprehensive plan detailing everything from specific incidents that have taken place and exactly how they can and will fix this kind of incident from happening again. Body cameras is a start, but what next?
The reason why the NFL can't really force the standing during the Anthem is that even though the teams are Private Entities the vast majority of venues they play in are not. They are for the most part publically funded stadiums which therefore means you can't really force anyone to do anything in a public forum
How can the NBA force players to stand for the anthem? Is every NBA arena privately funded?
NBA has had the Standing Rule in place since at least the 90's. It's been in every team's contract with the NBA and in the CBA the players agreed to. Even with that if a player pushed it he would have a decent case.
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politics! just ask eric!
You sound awfully butthurt.
you've surmised that i'm butthurt because eric is a partisan hack? nah man. you've got it all wrong..
If Eric is a partisan hack, what does that make you?
i'm not partisan, bro.. i don't have a "side."
You are very offended by Eric’s side. This would put you at odds. Therefore giving you a side.
no.. i am not "very offended" by eric's side. i just think it's funny/hypocritical that the host of the site decries partisan bickering while engaging in subtle, oblique partisanship himself, and so i call it out.