Well here it is ladies and gents. A chance at the ultimate redemption. Keuchel has absolutely owned the Yankees and it's no secret that he'll have his absolute best stuff today. Can the bats wake up? Do we need to sacrifice a live chicken? Do we need more hats for bats to make sure they're nice and warm? Anything and everything is on the table.
Gotta try to get into the Astros bullpen again - at all costs.
Tanaka-san will be on the mound for the Yanks and has been excellent this postseason. Let's go ahead and continue that, shall we? Arigato gozaimasu.
And have the Yankees bats finally woken up? We shall see said the blind man.
Win and it's back to Houston with a 3-2 lead. Believe it and it will happen.
LGY.
Let's go
Yanks have to be confident. This team has answered the bell all season - Go Yanks!
And tonight we skate with them. Because we can....oh..wait...
Be a real shame if Kuechel was taken into custody for questioning.
Anyway, let's keep this train rolling!
Anyway, let's keep this train rolling!
It's a shame that Gleyber is not in the lineup tonight. I look forward to watching him begin his Yankee career next year.
I think Tanaka-San is equal to the task today. I hope the Yanks hitters manage to stick with the approach from the 7th and 8th yesterday...lots of patience, oppo hits, and productive outs. Then we take down their bullpen again
We can do this boys, keep it rolling. Lets go Yankees!!!!!!
44.2 IP, 166 total batters faced. And he has given up 0 HRs. .188/.218/.234 split against the Yankees in his career.
The Yanks were 8th in fly-ball percentage and 24th in ground ball percentage and Keuchel is one of the best at not giving up HRs and led the league in ground ball percentage.
So with all that against them, how can they turn things around on Keuchel? Plate discipline. Stop swinging.
Keuchel, out of 90 pitches with 140 IP was 89th/90 in percentage of strikes thrown and the Yankees were 25th in the league in swing % so they have the ability to avoid swinging.
If I"m the Yankees, I'm telling these guys the first time through the order or in the first two innings not to swing (but not look obvious) until there are two strikes or unless it's 3-0 and you see a perfect pitch.
52% of his pitches are sinkers. Odds are that if the pitch is low in the zone, it's a ball. Play those odds.
44.2 IP, 166 total batters faced. And he has given up 0 HRs. .188/.218/.234 split against the Yankees in his career.
The Yanks were 8th in fly-ball percentage and 24th in ground ball percentage and Keuchel is one of the best at not giving up HRs and led the league in ground ball percentage.
So with all that against them, how can they turn things around on Keuchel? Plate discipline. Stop swinging.
Keuchel, out of 90 pitches with 140 IP was 89th/90 in percentage of strikes thrown and the Yankees were 25th in the league in swing % so they have the ability to avoid swinging.
If I"m the Yankees, I'm telling these guys the first time through the order or in the first two innings not to swing (but not look obvious) until there are two strikes or unless it's 3-0 and you see a perfect pitch.
52% of his pitches are sinkers. Odds are that if the pitch is low in the zone, it's a ball. Play those odds.
Good post. Makes perfect sense. Patience is the key.
I mentioned this during his first start - I think Keuchel fools the ump as well as the hitter sometimes with borderline pitches that break late out of the zone. Kind of an unfair added advantage, but all the arguing in the world from Girardi and company cant cure human error completely
Just hope the Yanks go out and take the best ABs they can, and get a close game to the bullpens
Sure, he may get some questionable calls on low stuff that breaks late, but probably not any more than other pitchers.
The majority of the time he is fooling hitters into swinging at pitches out of the zone. He is 13th/90 in swinging percentage of pitches OUT of the zone.
It's not about the ump's zone with Keuchel. It's about hitters swinging at balls.
Here you go - one whole chicken, just like you asked.
Astros win, they get some mojo back and come back with Verlander in Houston in Game 6 and probably win it.
Yanks win and we will have broken their spirit. It make take until Game 7 but I like our chances of winning 1 of the remaining 2.
Big, big night.
I used to hate hearing the "Fly me to the moon..." and see him in his oversized uniform and uppercut swing. But he easily is my favorite Yankee right now along with Gardner.
Lets break their spirits tonight. And as Paul Blake said, lets take our pitches and hope for a jem from Tanaker.
Sure, he may get some questionable calls on low stuff that breaks late, but probably not any more than other pitchers.
The majority of the time he is fooling hitters into swinging at pitches out of the zone. He is 13th/90 in swinging percentage of pitches OUT of the zone.
It's not about the ump's zone with Keuchel. It's about hitters swinging at balls.
Interesting stuff, thanks for sharing it. As is often the case, the damn data doesnt always support our opinions as emotional fans:)
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he's 89th/90 pitchers with 140 IP at percentages of pitches thrown for a strike. If his success were primarily attributed to fooling the umps, he would have a much higher strike rate. He's not fooling them into calling balls.
Sure, he may get some questionable calls on low stuff that breaks late, but probably not any more than other pitchers.
The majority of the time he is fooling hitters into swinging at pitches out of the zone. He is 13th/90 in swinging percentage of pitches OUT of the zone.
It's not about the ump's zone with Keuchel. It's about hitters swinging at balls.
Interesting stuff, thanks for sharing it. As is often the case, the damn data doesnt always support our opinions as emotional fans:)
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I'm riding home from work so I'm only following it on gameday - seemed like a close but defensible call
Could be a variety of reasons, like the earlier start, but I was at game 3 and can report the security lines getting into Stadium were an absolute nightmare. My buddy and I got off the 4 train at 7:30 for the 8 pm start, and got to our seats at the start of the second inning at about 8:30.
Way too few manned metal detectors outside, each gate had 3-6 at most with close to 50,000 fans trying to get in
By the 2nd inning almost every seat in the stadium was full
Actually, I think most of them are pretty likeable. Keuchel is a douche though and so is Reddick
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at the umps and anyone else listening. A really unlikeable team of loudmouths.
Actually, I think most of them are pretty likeable. Keuchel is a douche though and so is Reddick
Wrong. They're all unlikeable.
Last night McCullers was yapping and carrying on. Don't like them at all.
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Actually, I think most of them are pretty likeable. Keuchel is a douche though and so is Reddick
McCann is a douche as well
It didn't look to me like Hicks had any shot to get there. Castro's gotta bust his ass for the ball until he hears someone call him off. If he didn't hesitate twice it looked like he could have at least had a play at it.
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Let's get some more runs.
When the Yanks played at Citi Field, some Mets season ticket holder right behind the dugout gave a rather amusing thumbs down after a Frazier HR. Frazier and then the rest of the team turned it into a celebration thing after hits
Don't worry. I'm sure Buck will feel obliged to explain it about 3 more times tonight.
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Aaron Judge Postseason Career:
7-18 (.389) with men on base
1-21 (.048) with bases empty
Wow. And the 1 with bases empty was last nights HR
Meh I think John and Suzy have done a good job this postseason.
Indeed. He did the same after several of the Yanks big hits last night
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for not talking after that K and letting the stadium do the talking.
Indeed. He did the same after several of the Yanks big hits last night
Maybe an unpopular opinion but I think Joe Buck does a great job.
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for not talking after that K and letting the stadium do the talking.
Indeed. He did the same after several of the Yanks big hits last night
Maybe an unpopular opinion but I think Joe Buck does a great job.
My opinion of him completely changed after hearing him on Howard Stern a little while back. Talked very honestly about both his serious health scare with his voice, and how hard he works to try and get it right announcing games. He also said he sometimes cant help reading/hearing the criticism and admitted it stings.
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I refuse to listen to the Astros feed cause I feel it's bad juju, but holy moly when the hell are Sterling and Waldman going to exit stage left? Never know the score, count, inning, type of pitch. How can you suck at a job you've held for decades ?
Meh I think John and Suzy have done a good job this postseason.
I love crazy uncle John and aunt Suzie. There's just something familiar and comforting in thier senile antics.
His pick-up line is "Hi, I'm Joe Buck." in that full baritone. He hit on my friend's sister once.
never had it all night. His ball wasn't dropping like it was in Game 1.
Knocking that sonofabitch around is the most satisfying baseball moment in FOREVER
Couldn't ask a sweeter Bday night, so far... (don't want to jinks shit... ;-)
We're in the Pen Gents!!
All the balls and guts of the late 90s squad coming out of a bunch of young guns who can't even grow a fucking beard yet
This is fucking awesome
True, but they're into the weak underbelly now
Amazing. I fully admit I wasnt confident in him going into the playoffs. Very happy to eat crow on that one
He better not be going anywhere this offseason
Maybe didn't expect this, but he was pretty good after that terrible first two months. Seemed like he was back to normal.
But this is something else entirely. This is what he was like when he first came over in 2014
No postseason floppers
Couple more insurance runs would be nice.
I doubt it. Kahnle's been up for a while.
This guy is the greatest
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Who in this postseason is pitching better than Tanaka? Last 4 starts: 27 IP, 13 hits, 31 K's, a mere 2 runs. That's a 0.67 ERA #domination
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I vote yes, but we all know how Girardi loves to stick with his formula:)
I'm feeling good , off to the tropics tho
ummm really???
I'm sympathetic to that view, but I feel like Betances has to be shut down for the duration. Too much at risk from here on out.
First pitch of the game, I think.
Maybe Kahnle goes back out there since he only threw 9 pitches. That being said, you might want to give Warren an inning and have Chapman as backup so Kahnle is fresh for potential G6 and G7
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get an inning of work but it's simply too risky. 5-0 isn't a slam dunk. I trust Girardi, no reason not to.
ummm really???
Umm really what?
Yeah Kahnle seems like a work horse who thrives off work , I love it..
Brian cashman... I mean what can we say??
Lol and to think some here were mad to give up Blake Rutherford for Kahnle, Drob and Toodfather has been nice down the stretch
Hard to explain but I can't really say much to my wife about the game.
Just a real sense of satisfaction up to this point.
Makes me feel like the 90's pitching with Andy when we needed big games.
Go Yanks!
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Who in this postseason is pitching better than Tanaka? Last 4 starts: 27 IP, 13 hits, 31 K's, a mere 2 runs. That's a 0.67 ERA #domination
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i really feel like there's no reason to burn DRob or Chapman in (at least) a 5-0 game
Maybe Kahnle goes back out there since he only threw 9 pitches. That being said, you might want to give Warren an inning and have Chapman as backup so Kahnle is fresh for potential G6 and G7
wouldn't mind Warren. as much as Kahnle threw only 9 pitches, no need to stretch him too much either. he's been the critical bridge
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keeping him sharp is very valuable with Betances crapping out
Yeah Kahnle seems like a work horse who thrives off work , I love it..
Brian cashman... I mean what can we say??
Lol and to think some here were mad to give up Blake Rutherford for Kahnle, Drob and Toodfather has been nice down the stretch
Don't forget Clippard who was a + by -.
Totally ridiKulous.
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keeping him sharp is very valuable with Betances crapping out
Yeah Kahnle seems like a work horse who thrives off work , I love it..
Brian cashman... I mean what can we say??
Lol and to think some here were mad to give up Blake Rutherford for Kahnle, Drob and Toodfather has been nice down the stretch
Don't forget Clippard who was a + by -.
I think most of us werent mad - wed just all gotten on board for the rebuild which we expected would take longer, and were a little surprised/confused Cashman would be so gung ho to make an all in for this season move like he did.
In hindsight, the trade looks great. Even if Rutherford and/or Mateo turn into stars. Playoff runs like this are special.
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keeping him sharp is very valuable with Betances crapping out
Yeah Kahnle seems like a work horse who thrives off work , I love it..
Brian cashman... I mean what can we say??
Lol and to think some here were mad to give up Blake Rutherford for Kahnle, Drob and Toodfather has been nice down the stretch
Don't forget Clippard who was a + by -.
I think most of us werent mad - wed just all gotten on board for the rebuild which we expected would take longer, and were a little surprised/confused Cashman would be so gung ho to make an all in for this season move like he did.
In hindsight, the trade looks great. Even if Rutherford and/or Mateo turn into stars. Playoff runs like this are special.
Fully agreed, I liked both trades knowing the prospects very well. We still have our top guys as well.
I love this Yankees team so damn much!! Our starting pitching deserves soooooo much love. Especially with all the shit talking and lack of respect they've gotten parts of or all year minus Severino
The thing is, Kahnle is under control at a cheap salary through 2020. Frazier has been a perfect clubhouse / attitude fit and we all love having D-Rob back, but Kahnle was the best asset of the trade.
Man your way ahead
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In hindsight, the trade looks great. Even if Rutherford and/or Mateo turn into stars. Playoff runs like this are special.
The thing is, Kahnle is under control at a cheap salary through 2020. Frazier has been a perfect clubhouse / attitude fit and we all love having D-Rob back, but Kahnle was the best asset of the trade.
Yup good point...it really wasnt just for this season like trading for a free agent rental
What should have been a battle of the 100 win teams, gets ruined by the fucking Yankees.
by MarvinBerry on 10.18.17 5:10pm
Starting to feel exactly like the ALDS (Yankees Indians one) Just sickening.
by MarvinBerry on 10.18.17 5:23pm
So fixed
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Thanks for the good juju man!
Way to go B in ALB - you are vying for ALCS MVP.
Yup all true, plus they lost several close games late when Chapman was struggling or hurt early on
It's something special we are watching
Answer is....no. his high was 118 back in May
Tanaka with an exceptional playoffs so far.
We are set up great, but it's gonna be a challenge for them. I think they're up to the task.
119 was his high but Verlander's thrown 130 plus a couple of times in the playoffs
Good?
My half hard cock is good. My fully hard cock - like Tanaka-san tonight - is great.
Fuck off Hinch.
Good?
My half hard cock is good. My fully hard cock - like Tanaka-san tonight - is great.
Fuck off Hinch.
Frank Thomas echoed your sentiments right after that.
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I could easily look it up, but does anybody know if hes thrown 120+ pitches at any point this year?
119 was his high but Verlander's thrown 130 plus a couple of times in the playoffs
And with one exception, has followed it up with a strong performance. He's a workhorse. That's not to say that the Yanks can't chase him, but it won't be a given due to workload.
SOB, imagine that, an ump that makes you actually throw strikes.
Agreed, I flipped over in time to catch a really good breakdown of Judges RBI double and the mistake Keuchel made throwing him a harder pitch after Judge was way ahead of a slider. Really good analysis by those guys
SOB, imagine that, an ump that makes you actually throw strikes.
Osama can kiss my ass. Here's the k zone map for Yankee pitchers:
And for Houston pitchers:
Gee, whodyathink got a friendlier strike zone?
It's coming up in a few on YES.
Oh and they lost?
Awesome stuff.
Coming up now....Nice rug Fratello.
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I hope Severino starts strong and doesn't look back.
Luiiiiisssss Severinooooo!!!!!
Let's go stud! Take us to the WS !
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they said Keuchel was bitching about low pitches not being called early as they were in Houston. They implied they were strikes. I saw him bitching at the ump. As usual I thought they were low or outside..
SOB, imagine that, an ump that makes you actually throw strikes.
Osama can kiss my ass. Here's the k zone map for Yankee pitchers:
And for Houston pitchers:
Gee, whodyathink got a friendlier strike zone?
I'd be interested in seeing a comparison from tonight and Game 1
I don't understand your point. What do you call Game 5 in Cleveland or the Wild Card game for that matter.
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Our young players will experience their first BIGTIME Clincher elimination game where they are the eliminator. Let's see if this team can play the finisher this time and learn to become them for years , if not we always have the stopper game 7, but Sevy will finish them, and it will be great. Our young players will learn a lot, however it's VERY important imo we win the WS if we make the WS
I don't understand your point. What do you call Game 5 in Cleveland or the Wild Card game for that matter.
I guess my point is , going into a game as the favorite with all the momentum, switching venues and stomping on their throats.. however what they've shown so far is nothing short of incredible and dominant in all aspects after going 0-2 in each series
Idk, I'm just spit balling a bit.
They're not even a finished product yet. Gleyber, Frazier, possibly Andujar, Justus Sheffield, Chance Adams are waiting in the wings. And there's always lifelong Yankee fan Bryce Harper who has made noises about playing in the Bronx since he came to the big leagues
They were in the "eliminator" position in Cleveland against a Cy Young winner who will win his 2nd Cy this year in Kluber, plus they had no extra game as a cushion
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Our young players will experience their first BIGTIME Clincher elimination game where they are the eliminator. Let's see if this team can play the finisher this time and learn to become them for years , if not we always have the stopper game 7, but Sevy will finish them, and it will be great. Our young players will learn a lot, however it's VERY important imo we win the WS if we make the WS
They were in the "eliminator" position in Cleveland against a Cy Young winner who will win his 2nd Cy this year in Kluber, plus they had no extra game as a cushion
I guess being up in a playoff series and finishing is what I meant . I'll put more thought into future posts titled "important note"
We are countin' on ya Friday, B..
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is already a house of horrors for opponents and (theoretically) this team is still in on the early-ish part of the curve as far as the build is concerned.
They're not even a finished product yet. Gleyber, Frazier, possibly Andujar, Justus Sheffield, Chance Adams are waiting in the wings. And there's always lifelong Yankee fan Bryce Harper who has made noises about playing in the Bronx since he came to the big leagues
If you heard Cash's interview on MLB Radio today I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for him to hand out one of those 300 million dollar contracts in the next few years to a FA. He specifically said he wouldn't want to be the one handing them out.
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We are countin' on ya Friday, B..
Get your rest, buddy.. and no drinking we need you fresh..
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is already a house of horrors for opponents and (theoretically) this team is still in on the early-ish part of the curve as far as the build is concerned.
They're not even a finished product yet. Gleyber, Frazier, possibly Andujar, Justus Sheffield, Chance Adams are waiting in the wings. And there's always lifelong Yankee fan Bryce Harper who has made noises about playing in the Bronx since he came to the big leagues
If you heard Cash's interview on MLB Radio today I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for him to hand out one of those 300 million dollar contracts in the next few years to a FA. He specifically said he wouldn't want to be the one handing them out.
I would rather not.. For all the shit we got for years "buying our championships" how great would it be to build a dynasty within?
As long as they get under the luxury tax threshold in time, there is ZERO chance they don't go all-in on Harper to add to the championship core. Zero.
All for not, Granderson strikes out.
All for not, Granderson strikes out.
Yep. Awful job by umpires. Crew chief shit the bed overruling the homeplate ump.
All for not, Granderson strikes out.
Yea, really bizarre. Of course he did strike out on the very next pitch.
As long as they get under the luxury tax threshold in time, there is ZERO chance they don't go all-in on Harper to add to the championship core. Zero.
I think they will not go for Harper. Eventually they will need to pay Gregorious, Sanchez, Judge, and Bird. You cannot layout that kind of cash for all those guys and Harper.
And is he generational player when Trout is the better player and is only a year older? What about Stanton?
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the Yankees will 100% be in on Harper. He is a generational talent that will be just entering his prime. We have multiple prospects who have either already panned out (Judge, Sanchez) or will hopefully pan out (Bird, Torres, Frazier, etc.) into cheap and productive everyday players. We are already in the ALDS this season aka well on our way to championship contenders probably at least a couple of years early according nearly any "re-build" prognosticator.
As long as they get under the luxury tax threshold in time, there is ZERO chance they don't go all-in on Harper to add to the championship core. Zero.
I think they will not go for Harper. Eventually they will need to pay Gregorious, Sanchez, Judge, and Bird. You cannot layout that kind of cash for all those guys and Harper.
And is he generational player when Trout is the better player and is only a year older? What about Stanton?
Trout is assuredly the best player of this generation. But we're not getting him. Harper is #2 and it's not particularly close in my opinion. Stanton is great, but Harper is younger and better than Stanton was at the time of his deal. He's going to cost $400M+ not $300M. But we didn't allow all the Teixeira, Beltran, Sabathia, Beltran, A-Rod (maybe Tanaka?) money to come off the books and save all that cash on luxury tax to not put a huge part of it back into the team. We have planned for Harper's free agency and thank god the prospects are panning out. I think there is a greater than 50/50 chance the Yankees sign him.
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the Yankees will 100% be in on Harper. He is a generational talent that will be just entering his prime. We have multiple prospects who have either already panned out (Judge, Sanchez) or will hopefully pan out (Bird, Torres, Frazier, etc.) into cheap and productive everyday players. We are already in the ALDS this season aka well on our way to championship contenders probably at least a couple of years early according nearly any "re-build" prognosticator.
As long as they get under the luxury tax threshold in time, there is ZERO chance they don't go all-in on Harper to add to the championship core. Zero.
I think they will not go for Harper. Eventually they will need to pay Gregorious, Sanchez, Judge, and Bird. You cannot layout that kind of cash for all those guys and Harper.
And is he generational player when Trout is the better player and is only a year older? What about Stanton?
Trout is assuredly the best player of this generation. But we're not getting him. Harper is #2 and it's not particularly close in my opinion. Stanton is great, but Harper is younger and better than Stanton was at the time of his deal. He's going to cost $400M+ not $300M. But we didn't allow all the Teixeira, Beltran, Sabathia, Beltran, A-Rod (maybe Tanaka?) money to come off the books and save all that cash on luxury tax to not put a huge part of it back into the team. We have planned for Harper's free agency and thank god the prospects are panning out. I think there is a greater than 50/50 chance the Yankees sign him.
I hope they umpires don't give them the ankle high zone the last two games either.
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the Yankees will 100% be in on Harper. He is a generational talent that will be just entering his prime. We have multiple prospects who have either already panned out (Judge, Sanchez) or will hopefully pan out (Bird, Torres, Frazier, etc.) into cheap and productive everyday players. We are already in the ALDS this season aka well on our way to championship contenders probably at least a couple of years early according nearly any "re-build" prognosticator.
As long as they get under the luxury tax threshold in time, there is ZERO chance they don't go all-in on Harper to add to the championship core. Zero.
I think they will not go for Harper. Eventually they will need to pay Gregorious, Sanchez, Judge, and Bird. You cannot layout that kind of cash for all those guys and Harper.
And is he generational player when Trout is the better player and is only a year older? What about Stanton?
Trout is assuredly the best player of this generation. But we're not getting him. Harper is #2 and it's not particularly close in my opinion. Stanton is great, but Harper is younger and better than Stanton was at the time of his deal. He's going to cost $400M+ not $300M. But we didn't allow all the Teixeira, Beltran, Sabathia, Beltran, A-Rod (maybe Tanaka?) money to come off the books and save all that cash on luxury tax to not put a huge part of it back into the team. We have planned for Harper's free agency and thank god the prospects are panning out. I think there is a greater than 50/50 chance the Yankees sign him.
They got rid of the big contracts to get rid of the the big contracts and to get under the luxury tax and funding competition. If Harper is $35m per year for 10 yrs, how are you paying for Judge, Sanchez, Didi, Severino, Bird etc? Going to be paying $200 mill just for 5 or 6 players? I think they also learned a lesson on these never ending expensive contracts - Dumb, dumb, dumb...
You may be right and people say it is happening, if I were Hal I'd pass.
They also have Otani coming, maybe.
But what I see the Yankees doing is setting up like they did in the mid 1990s. Use their financial might to take on a contract here and there towards the end of their deals at the deadline and cycle them out. Where Cashman can right an old wrong is not giving out 10 year deals to guys who are in the middle/end of their prime and eating 2-3 years of high paid crap.
Getting under the luxury tax, with this young group of players, the Yankees are setting up another dynasty.
I know it's premature, but I think this group has a chance to be better for longer than the late '90s group. Sanchez, Bird, Judge, Didi, , Hicks, Castro all 27 or younger can be together a LONG time. And C. Frazier, Andujar and Torres are pushing their way up. If they can break in Adams and 1 more starter (maybe Green) to join Sevi and Montgomery next year, they can dominate for a long time.. And without bringing in mercenaries from FA in 2019.
My gut feeling is that how hard they pursue Harper depends on what happens over the next year. I still think they probably go for it, but if Judge has another incredible year next year, Hicks shows this season wasn't a fluke, and Frazier takes off, it's possible they decide to use their resources elsewhere.
Don't forget - Harper is actually younger than Judge.