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Dr. D : 10/19/2017 8:29 am
"In his book, Feldman writes that Haim was raped at age 11 on the set of the 1986 film “Lucas,”.."

“The man who had stolen his innocence,” Feldman writes, “ . . . walks around now, one of the most successful people in the entertainment industry, still making money hand over fist.”

For years, there were accusations about Weinstein that weren't taken seriously. Will more people start taking Feldman and others like Molly Ringwald seriously about pedophilia in Hollywood? I've personally never doubted them.

Feldman can't name names for legal reasons (stupid statute of limitations in CA). He has said he/they are powerful and are "still making money hand over fist", so it probably wasn't a stage assistant. I'm tempted to list the names of the director and producer of the film "Lucas" here, but instead I'll just link the credits:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091445/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast
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Woody Allen  
Dr. D : 10/19/2017 8:32 am : link
said he hopes the Weinstein situation doesn't lead to a "witch hunt".

How about a pedophile and scumbag hunt?
personally  
Dr. D : 10/19/2017 8:37 am : link
I have an attractive and pretty charismatic 14 year old daughter and 9 year old son, but no money in the world would entice me to have them go work in Hollywood, unless I could never let them out of my sight.
Legal reasons seems like a copout  
jcn56 : 10/19/2017 8:40 am : link
His friend was raped, and it obviously fucked up the guy badly enough that he ultimately ODd on painkillers.

The child predator situation in this country is alarming. When they had Sandusky, the implications that he was involved in a ring of powerful child traffickers had me hoping they would dig deeper and uncover some of these assholes, but no dice. The FBI keeps busting one operation after another, but no big names or operations seem to come to light. I hope these fucks get what's coming to them, one way or the other.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/84-children-rescued-120-human-traffickers-arrested-across-u-s-n812156 - ( New Window )
RE: Woody Allen  
I Love Clams Casino : 10/19/2017 8:43 am : link
In comment 13655974 Dr. D said:
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said he hopes the Weinstein situation doesn't lead to a "witch hunt".

How about a pedophile and scumbag hunt?


Woody's a sick deviant
I don't really agree that it's a copout  
Dr. D : 10/19/2017 8:45 am : link
He has his own family to protect financially and otherwise. I don't know his financial situation, but my guess is he could be ruined by a lawsuit(s), even if he's on the right side of fight.

The limitations law should be changed.
He said this on the view  
Keith : 10/19/2017 8:47 am : link
years back and was shot down by Barbara Walters who was probably trying to protect her friends.
RE: RE: Woody Allen  
Dr. D : 10/19/2017 8:48 am : link
In comment 13655986 I Love Clams Casino said:
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In comment 13655974 Dr. D said:

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Woody's a sick deviant

But guys like him and Roman Polanski get standing ovations at award ceremonies by those self righteous pedophile enabling hollywood elites.
This information could get 'leaked' and never make  
jcn56 : 10/19/2017 8:49 am : link
it's way back to Feldman legally. Testifying in court would be a different matter, but if all he wanted to do was financially take out the person responsible, there are ways to do it.

Otherwise, you don't find 'this is a really bad guy who's in a position where he could be doing this every day, did it to my good friend who ultimately killed himself, but I'm not talking' to be just a tad self-serving?
Yeah I've been waiting for more of the story  
mattlawson : 10/19/2017 8:49 am : link
To come out, I never doubted that they were real accusations.

The whistleblower who was involved with the beginning of the Sandusky stuff did say the next phase of the story would be a larger underground circuit of pedophilia uncovered. Similarly I don't think that was made up either
RE: He said this on the view  
Dr. D : 10/19/2017 8:52 am : link
In comment 13655991 Keith said:
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years back and was shot down by Barbara Walters who was probably trying to protect her friends.

Exactly, that's mentioned in the one article. Those people make me want to puke. And yet so many in this country seem to take the opinions of these hollywood/media elites seriously; like we should look up to them and trust their judgment.
Feldman said..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/19/2017 8:52 am : link
this week that the people responsible for him and Haim being molested weren't tied to Weinstein, but said there is an equally explosive scandal with pedophiles in the industry.
I am not inclined to not believe Feldman  
bhill410 : 10/19/2017 8:54 am : link
However, he is a somewhat strange character these days which cant help in any type of law suit that would rely upon credibility
jcn  
Greg from LI : 10/19/2017 8:56 am : link
In 1993, when police interviewed him as a potential witness in the Michael Jackson case, Feldman told police about the abuse and named names, but they pretty much ignored him and only focused on Jackson. He did try to do something about it and the authorities weren't interested. Between that, and the fact that the guy isn't exactly thriving today, I find it hard to blame him for being reluctant today.
here's a link to that story  
Greg from LI : 10/19/2017 8:58 am : link
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That's exactly the type of thinking that protects these assholes  
mattlawson : 10/19/2017 8:59 am : link
"We're going to attack credibility" is the #1 tactic.

How about the porn star that named tiger woods? No credibilty right? What does she know - just looking for that 15 minute of fame. Right.
hasn't he kind of hit rock bottom?  
pjcas18 : 10/19/2017 8:59 am : link
his musical debut with Corey Feldman and the Angels didn't exactly turn out as well as he hoped.

And what is he worried about statute of limitations for? that's only criminal isn't it? So the people can't be prosecuted criminally, maybe he can at least protect other children.

If he's worried about being sued, that could open all kinds of publicity to the accused that could actually make things worse for them (if the story is true and he names the right person/people).

jcn  
Dr. D : 10/19/2017 9:02 am : link
again, he has his own family to protect. Naming names isn't going to bring back his friend and could ruin him financially.

I think by specifically mentioning the film "Lucas" (everyone can look up the powerful men involved, i.e., the producer, director, et al.) and even for talking about this in the first place, he's doing the opposite of self serving.

I don't think this has helped his career. I believe he's put this out there to warn other parents.

If CA changed the statute of limitations law, which he is asking for, and he still didn't name names, you might have a better argument, imo.
RE: jcn  
jcn56 : 10/19/2017 9:04 am : link
In comment 13656010 Greg from LI said:
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In 1993, when police interviewed him as a potential witness in the Michael Jackson case, Feldman told police about the abuse and named names, but they pretty much ignored him and only focused on Jackson. He did try to do something about it and the authorities weren't interested. Between that, and the fact that the guy isn't exactly thriving today, I find it hard to blame him for being reluctant today.


I can sympathize with that - I don't want to make it seem like he's a bad guy in any way.

It's just that he's taken half a step forward - and he's waiting for someone else to pop up and take the ball the rest of the way. It's what he did with Jackson, and the others let him down. Maybe, given the fact that he's no longer being fed by that machine, he can take the rest of that step to bring those people to justice.

Imagine how many rich and powerful fucks in all walks of life must be involved for this to have popped up in a number of different industries and for it not to be uncovered yet.
I guess I don't understand the SoL issue then  
jcn56 : 10/19/2017 9:05 am : link
Is he concerned that naming names would somehow cost him beyond what reputational damage those in power might try to inflict? Would he be liable from a criminal or civil perspective?

And a more basic question - does Feldman actually make any Hollywood money these days?
you guys questioning him for not naming names  
Dr. D : 10/19/2017 9:08 am : link
have you ever been sued by a very wealthy powerful man or corporation?

Often, even if you win, you lose - financially and otherwise.

And there's what Greg linked.
RE: I am not inclined to not believe Feldman  
Motley Two : 10/19/2017 9:09 am : link
In comment 13656003 bhill410 said:
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However, he is a somewhat strange character these days which cant help in any type of law suit that would rely upon credibility



What about Elijah Wood? He's said the same things in recent years. You gonna call Frodo a liar?
For  
DanMetroMan : 10/19/2017 9:11 am : link
what it's worth unsolicited Alison Arngrim (who starred on little house on the prairie) said the fact the "Corey's" were passed around was an open secret and she put this in her 2010 book.
RE: you guys questioning him for not naming names  
jcn56 : 10/19/2017 9:11 am : link
In comment 13656025 Dr. D said:
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have you ever been sued by a very wealthy powerful man or corporation?

Often, even if you win, you lose - financially and otherwise.

And there's what Greg linked.


I get it's not easy - but why go half the distance then?
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Danny Kanell : 10/19/2017 9:11 am : link
It’s been pretty widely speculated David Nicksay was the one who raped Haim. Yet he still is producing movies.
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DanMetroMan : 10/19/2017 9:12 am : link
“This has been going on for a very long time,” concurs Arngrim. “It was the gossip back in the ‘80s. People said, ‘Oh yeah, the Coreys [Feldman, Haim], everyone’s had them.’ People talked about it like it was not a big deal…”

“I literally heard that they were ‘passed around,’” Arngrim said. “The word was that they were given drugs and being used for sex. It was awful–these were kids, they weren’t 18 yet. There were all sorts of stories about everyone from their, quote, ‘set guardians’ on down that these two had been sexually abused and were totally being corrupted in every possible way.”
The  
DanMetroMan : 10/19/2017 9:13 am : link
director of Powder was hired by DISNEY after being filmed being blown by a 12 year old boy.
No, I don't think he makes much Hollywood money these days  
Greg from LI : 10/19/2017 9:14 am : link
I'm sure he gets some money for his '80s movies (I think? I'm not an expert on how that works), and he does some low budget DTV stuff, but I doubt he makes much from them.

Anyway, since we're talking about pedophiles in powerful places.....I'll go ahead and put on my tinfoil hat here and wonder about Penn State and Sandusky. There's still so much about that case that seems.....I don't know, incomplete to me. I wouldn't be surprised if there yet turned out to be some truth to the rumors that Sandusky was being protected by wealthy PSU boosters to whom he was pimping those Second Mile boys out.
Hollywood is an easy target  
well...bye TC : 10/19/2017 9:19 am : link
(as someone who grew up in the film business). If you dont think this goes on in every industry to some extent youre being naive. Start with politics.
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DanMetroMan : 10/19/2017 9:19 am : link
Anne Henry, co-founder of Bizparents, a group set up to help child actors, said Hollywood is currently sheltering around 100 active abusers and said a “tsunami” of claims was beginning.

And on a personal note  
well...bye TC : 10/19/2017 9:21 am : link
every woman close to me has been either sexually abused or assaulted. Mom, daughters, gf, ex gfs ex wife etc. Its far more pervasive than many realize. Ask around...
RE: And on a personal note  
DanMetroMan : 10/19/2017 9:23 am : link
In comment 13656043 well...bye TC said:
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every woman close to me has been either sexually abused or assaulted. Mom, daughters, gf, ex gfs ex wife etc. Its far more pervasive than many realize. Ask around...


While it is not at all a surprise to me (my own wife had to speak to HR over sexual harassment at work) the #MeToo movement sure has been eye opening.
When Corey first blew the whistle..  
EricJ : 10/19/2017 9:24 am : link
he WAS being fed by the hollywood machine and hoping to get more work in the industry. So, lets not look at it as if he waited until he had nothing to lose (ie when his career was basically over).

Also, not that he was the greatest actor or anything but I also find it strange that he cannot get ANY work at all. Not even a small part somewhere. There are roles that fit his skillset and character type.
RE: Hollywood is an easy target  
Motley Two : 10/19/2017 9:25 am : link
In comment 13656040 well...bye TC said:
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(as someone who grew up in the film business). If you dont think this goes on in every industry to some extent youre being naive. Start with politics.


Yep. It's not limited to Hollywood. Capitol Hill, Wall Street, Fashion Industry. You'll find it everywhere.

Feldman explains why he doesn't name names  
Dr. D : 10/19/2017 9:34 am : link
"Because (of the CA statute of limitations) if I were to go and mention anybody's name I would be the one that would be in legal problems and I'm the one that would be sued.”

Again, he has his own family (he has at least one son) to protect financially.

Even if he's not making a living acting, do you think he wants to blow his savings on legal fees?

Are the doubters here willing to pay his lawyers?
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Not only the victims  
well...bye TC : 10/19/2017 9:38 am : link
but the perps are much closer to you then you realize. Its not just fat schlubs who do it. Good looking guys who can get laid easily. Family members. Your buddy from the gym or the dude who sits next to you at work. I guarantee you someone on this forum. Its about power and insecurity. Sex has nothing to do with it.
RE: Feldman explains why he doesn't name names  
jcn56 : 10/19/2017 9:39 am : link
In comment 13656057 Dr. D said:
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"Because (of the CA statute of limitations) if I were to go and mention anybody's name I would be the one that would be in legal problems and I'm the one that would be sued.”

Again, he has his own family (he has at least one son) to protect financially.

Even if he's not making a living acting, do you think he wants to blow his savings on legal fees?

Are the doubters here willing to pay his lawyers? statute-limitations-rape-feldman - ( New Window )


That's a fair point, even if it doesn't cut off his money supply having to fend off a series of lawsuits would be just as effective.
Feldman  
pjcas18 : 10/19/2017 9:45 am : link
should have Charlie Sheen out the child molesters, unless of course Charlie Sheen is/was one of them (not accusing him, but nothing would surprise me).

Sheen has money, seems to have no filter, enjoys the limelight, was on the set of Lucas so probably knows the story, and Sheen enjoys #winning
I understand wanting to protect yourself financially  
GiantsLaw : 10/19/2017 9:47 am : link
but the moral obligation is to protect the kids that have not yet been molested. Feldman should have the guts to protect the kids and out the scumbags. I think it's unfathomable that he hasn't done it yet. It makes him less believable honestly to me. Heck write a tell-all. The profits from the book would probably cover getting sued.
RE: I understand wanting to protect yourself financially  
Britt in VA : 10/19/2017 9:48 am : link
In comment 13656085 GiantsLaw said:
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but the moral obligation is to protect the kids that have not yet been molested. Feldman should have the guts to protect the kids and out the scumbags. I think it's unfathomable that he hasn't done it yet. It makes him less believable honestly to me. Heck write a tell-all. The profits from the book would probably cover getting sued.


Isn't him saying that it's happening enough? Why is he responsible for naming names? Shouldn't it be the parents due diligence to take the idea that it's happening and do their own due diligence when letting their child enter the field?
I think it's disgusting and they should be held accountable...  
Britt in VA : 10/19/2017 9:51 am : link
but he's been extremely outspoken and public about it, and has said enough to give any parent pause before letting them be alone with ANYBODY in Hollywood.
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Dr. D : 10/19/2017 9:51 am : link
In comment 13656032 Danny Kanell said:
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It’s been pretty widely speculated David Nicksay was the one who raped Haim. Yet he still is producing movies.

The Producer of "Lucas". He would fit Feldman's description.
another thing  
GiantsLaw : 10/19/2017 9:51 am : link
once a pedophile/rapist gets outed, see how many more people come forward. Look at the Weinstein case as an example. Kids whose cases might not have expired might be encouraged to come forward too. It happens every day with teachers etc. It takes the 1st person to have the courage to say 'no more'.
He's responsible for naming names  
GiantsLaw : 10/19/2017 9:53 am : link
cause he's the one who can stop it. I can only speak for myself, I would feel obligated to stop it from continuing to happen, consequences be damned.
RE: He's responsible for naming names  
Mad Mike : 10/19/2017 9:56 am : link
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cause he's the one who can stop it. I can only speak for myself, I would feel obligated to stop it from continuing to happen, consequences be damned.

If you're speaking only for yourself, you probably shouldn't assign responsibility to him.
RE: Feldman  
jcn56 : 10/19/2017 9:58 am : link
In comment 13656080 pjcas18 said:
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should have Charlie Sheen out the child molesters, unless of course Charlie Sheen is/was one of them (not accusing him, but nothing would surprise me).

Sheen has money, seems to have no filter, enjoys the limelight, was on the set of Lucas so probably knows the story, and Sheen enjoys #winning


Sheen doesn't strike me as the selfless type. He's not going to put himself out there unless he's going to benefit from it.
RE: RE: RE: Woody Allen  
njm : 10/19/2017 10:04 am : link
In comment 13655996 Dr. D said:
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In comment 13655974 Dr. D said:

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Woody's a sick deviant


But guys like him and Roman Polanski get standing ovations at award ceremonies by those self righteous pedophile enabling hollywood elites.


That's what's most troubling to me. It was actually considered chic and trendy to support Polanski.
what Britt said  
Dr. D : 10/19/2017 10:14 am : link
I would like to see the doubters here put their own life savings and family well being at risk in a situation like this.

Again, it's pretty freaking easy to look up the credits for "Lucas" and see the couple of powerful men that fit Feldman's description.

Why does he have to risk his life savings? If any parent reads these allegations and doesn't take them seriously because Feldman doesn't name names, you've got to be f*cking kidding me.
There's a lot of new interest in these Hollywood pedophile stories  
ij_reilly : 10/19/2017 10:17 am : link
Journalists (of varying legitimacy/integrity) are digging.

I think we will see some news break soon.
RE: There's a lot of new interest in these Hollywood pedophile stories  
jcn56 : 10/19/2017 10:21 am : link
In comment 13656137 ij_reilly said:
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Journalists (of varying legitimacy/integrity) are digging.

I think we will see some news break soon.


I really hope so, but I doubt it. Look no further than Sandusky for proof. All that attention, he claimed he was hiding others, and nobody was ever flushed out.

I'm more disappointed in law enforcement than anything else - if anyone should be able to work around people covering for higher ups, it should be them.
I don't think people  
pjcas18 : 10/19/2017 10:24 am : link
doubt Feldman. At least not many on here, one person mentioned his credibility but not in terms of did it happen, just if he could prove it. So not sure who "the doubters" are.

However only a very small part of the issue would be solved by hinting at the perpetrator and helping current parents of would be child actors keep their kids away from this animal.

This person would still be free to live life unencumbered and even if statutory justice cannot be met, their life should still be ruined for what they've done.

So, whether Feldman publicly has a press conference himself and names names (I wouldn't think that's necessary) or does it through a reporter it would be good to bring these people (or person) to justice in the court of public opinion. reporters protect their sources all the time.

I doubt Weinstein does time, but I'd be surprised if he works again. Haim's attacker should suffer a similar fate.

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