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NFT: Good piece by Verducci on the maturity of the young Yanks

Victor in CT : 10/19/2017 9:53 am
Interesting tidbit: Bird, Sanchez and Judge all born in 1992 within 8 months of each other.

"Before Game 5, I told Judge how impressed I was that in Game 4 the 282-pound rightfielder tagged out a Houston runner headed to third base, a short cab ride away from his position as he alertly hustled to involve himself in a rundown play.

“Brainwashing,” Judge said. “The player development system.”"


How the Yankees' Advanced Youth Development Keyed Their ALCS Game 5 win over Astros - ( New Window )
I can't ever bring myself to root for the Yankees,  
Beezer : 10/19/2017 9:59 am : link
but there are some likable characters on scene now.

Friends who are casual (at best) Yankees fans and who couldn't name more than a name in the bullpen blowing up my FB feed with incessant "All Rise" and thumbs down icons will undoubtedly make me throw up in my mouth enough that I'll eventually hate even the likables.
They do raise them the right way.  
bceagle05 : 10/19/2017 10:00 am : link
Every guy who comes up through the system handles himself in a similar, team-oriented fashion. It's also interesting to see how they indoctrinate a guy like Clint Frazier, who arrives from another organization with a little different personality. I roll my eyes at the short hair, no facial hair stuff, but there is a method to the madness.
I wonder just how much of an influence  
Beezer : 10/19/2017 10:02 am : link
Derek Jeter was on the way the Yankees organization "raises" their young players. I wonder how much of it is simply reverence for their big brother, #2.
I say that  
Beezer : 10/19/2017 10:04 am : link
because the first time I saw/heard Aaron Judge interviewed, the immediate thought was ... Jeter 2.0. Different player, clearly. But the maturity and savvy was right there on display.
RE: I can't ever bring myself to root for the Yankees,  
superspynyg : 10/19/2017 10:06 am : link
In comment 13656105 Beezer said:
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but there are some likable characters on scene now.

Friends who are casual (at best) Yankees fans and who couldn't name more than a name in the bullpen blowing up my FB feed with incessant "All Rise" and thumbs down icons will undoubtedly make me throw up in my mouth enough that I'll eventually hate even the likables.


I feel the same about the Mets. When they were in the WS vs Royals I rooted against them. Nothing against some of the players. I actually like Synderguaard, DeGrom and some others. But then everyone would put on the Thor wigs and start threads with its Thors day. I cringe.

All teams do that for their players.
True.  
Beezer : 10/19/2017 10:08 am : link
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I like all the Yankees Baby Bombers  
spike : 10/19/2017 10:11 am : link
none was bought with a big ticket contract. Cashman is one of the best GMs in baseball.
By all accounts  
Kyle in NY : 10/19/2017 10:12 am : link
Gary Denbo deserves a lot of credit for the revitalized player development system in the minor leagues. Mark Newman's "retirement" a few years back and the appointment of Denbo seemed to be a big turning point for the organization.

Losing him to the Marlins is a bigger deal than I think many realize.
RE: I say that  
Tesla : 10/19/2017 10:30 am : link
In comment 13656115 Beezer said:
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because the first time I saw/heard Aaron Judge interviewed, the immediate thought was ... Jeter 2.0. Different player, clearly. But the maturity and savvy was right there on display.


Judge has an eerie resemblance to Jeter, in the way he speaks and even in a lot of his small movements. Despite their size differences they actually have incredibly similar swings. It's weird.
Wouldn't it be funny  
DC Gmen Fan : 10/19/2017 10:39 am : link
if somehow Judge turned out to be Jeter's son
RE: I wonder just how much of an influence  
Jay in Toronto : 10/19/2017 10:40 am : link
In comment 13656114 Beezer said:
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Derek Jeter was on the way the Yankees organization "raises" their young players. I wonder how much of it is simply reverence for their big brother, #2.


My thought exactly. Smart, hard working with lots of talent and check their egos at the door. He was the template.
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Beezer : 10/19/2017 10:44 am : link

RE: I like all the Yankees Baby Bombers  
Matt in SGS : 10/19/2017 10:45 am : link
In comment 13656127 spike said:
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none was bought with a big ticket contract. Cashman is one of the best GMs in baseball.


Somewhat true. The Yankees got Sanchez as a 16 year old and gave him a $3 million bonus to sign. But they worked with him, developed him and now he's a monster.
http://nypost.com/2009/07/02/yankees-sign-16-year-old-dominican-catcher/ - ( New Window )
yes, Denbo leaving gives me some trepidation  
Greg from LI : 10/19/2017 10:49 am : link
The Yankees have always had excellent scouts, and they had talented kids in the system even years ago when the farm was considered pretty bare - they just never could develop worth a damn. It seemed like none of their kids ever improved much as they progressed. That flipped completely when Denbo took over.

I hope they hit a home run with his replacement.
I would call Tanka's 7 year 157 mil  
superspynyg : 10/19/2017 10:49 am : link
and CC's redo contract big contracts. But every team has those.
Severino, on the other hand, signed for only $225K  
Greg from LI : 10/19/2017 10:51 am : link
The IFA market was always kind of nuts. So many of the huge bonus kids flopped, and plenty of Latino stars originally signed for comparative peanuts.
I love the article, but I disagree with the lead idea...  
manh george : 10/19/2017 10:58 am : link
that the Yankees aren't ahead of schedule. They are ahead of schedule in two senses:
1) Because Cashman was able to make some really important in-season additions; and
2) They are flourishing despite some of their best talent still being in the minors or not ready yet, because Judge made such an extraordinary jump from 2016. They don't get here without this preternatural talent having one of the best rookie seasons, ever. The following is a list of people who thought Judge could be this good, particularly this soon:
The sobering thought in all this  
DC Gmen Fan : 10/19/2017 10:59 am : link
is that the Yankees are going to have to dish out A LOT of money in a few years to keep these guys in pinstripes.
RE: The sobering thought in all this  
Greg from LI : 10/19/2017 11:04 am : link
In comment 13656212 DC Gmen Fan said:
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is that the Yankees are going to have to dish out A LOT of money in a few years to keep these guys in pinstripes.


In the past 20 years, there has been exactly one homegrown star who left because of money - Cano. That's it, and that was largely due to the fact that they were on the hook for some enormous FA salaries - ARod, Tex, Sabathia. I'm not too worried about it.
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arcarsenal : 10/19/2017 11:04 am : link
I think they're going to win the WS. They've built up a lot of confidence these last 2 series' against 100 win teams and know they can come back any time they're down... whether it be in-game or in a series.

I really don't have anything against the Yankees - not like they're the reason the Mets are incompetent.

I'm definitely jealous because I remember how fun this was 2 years ago and how exciting October baseball is when your team is right on the verge of a pennant. And because I literally haven't been able to enjoy a single sporting event outside of CFB in what feels like eternity.

Anyway... enjoy it, guys. You have a good team that should be set up to contend for quite a while like the late 90's/early 00's teams did. No salt here.
RE: .  
DC Gmen Fan : 10/19/2017 11:06 am : link
In comment 13656221 arcarsenal said:
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I think they're going to win the WS. They've built up a lot of confidence these last 2 series' against 100 win teams and know they can come back any time they're down... whether it be in-game or in a series.

I really don't have anything against the Yankees - not like they're the reason the Mets are incompetent.

I'm definitely jealous because I remember how fun this was 2 years ago and how exciting October baseball is when your team is right on the verge of a pennant. And because I literally haven't been able to enjoy a single sporting event outside of CFB in what feels like eternity.

Anyway... enjoy it, guys. You have a good team that should be set up to contend for quite a while like the late 90's/early 00's teams did. No salt here.


Nice post Arc. I was pulling for the Mets 2 years ago. I like it when both NY teams are competitive and wish the Mets well next year.
forget what game, but I heard a good Sanchez story  
Victor in CT : 10/19/2017 11:06 am : link
at showcase in the DR, kids wer asked to hit 1 ball solidly each to LF, CF and RF. At 15 yrs old, it took Sanchez 4 pitches to hit it over the fence to all 3 fields.
Cashman's..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/19/2017 11:07 am : link
midseason trades look like strokes of genius right now. He solidified the pen and brought a much better fielding 3B in the fold, who has been clutch this postseason.

And there was a lot of angst about those moves. Another lesson in letting things play out before evaluating.
I was in..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/19/2017 11:09 am : link
LIC for a little bit during the Mets WS run two years ago. I felt genuinely happy for the people there. Looked like a group of regulars at this one pub had wallowed in misery for so many years, and now they were excited and pulled together.

Was pretty awesome.
Brainwashing - just good baseball  
section125 : 10/19/2017 11:17 am : link
reactions and instruction. FWIW, my daughter coaches HS softball and those outfield girls are taught to cover on run downs. Now true, the field is significantly smaller, but if HS softball uses this technique it is likely a common drill, although that was the 1st time I ever saw it used that I can remember.
Now that Judge remembered to do so is testament to his ability, love of the game and great coaching.
On the article:  
manh george : 10/19/2017 11:19 am : link
I also love the comment on Bird's batting eye. I have believed since I first saw him that he was likely an Olerud-level first base talent. Great swing, great eye, great size, strong athleticism.
I just wanted to get by the Twins  
Stan in LA : 10/19/2017 11:43 am : link
So the kids could get more playoff experience. That's why this run is all gravy. 2 years ahead of schedule and a lot to look forward to.
Both Jeter and Judge are biracial  
spike : 10/19/2017 12:19 pm : link
"Judge told the New York Post that he asked his parents if he was adopted when he turned 10 or 11 and noticed that he didn’t really look like them. When he learned that he was adopted, he didn’t care.

“I was about 10 or 11 and we really didn’t look alike, so I started asking questions and they told me I was adopted and answered all my questions, and that was that,” Judge said. “I was fine with it. It really didn’t bother me because that’s the only parents I’ve known.”

Judge never had any contact with his biological parents. He has not addressed his ethnicity publicly, although he learned at a young age that he did not look like his parents. North Jersey notes that he is bi-racial.

“I think it was like, ‘I don’t look like you, Mom. I don’t look like you, Dad. Like, what’s going on here?'” Judge told MLB.com. “They just kind of told me I was adopted. I was like, ‘OK, that’s fine with me.’ You’re still my mom, the only mom I know. You’re still my dad, the only dad I know.”
Wayne told the Post that they joked about their son as a baby, calling him the “Michelin Tire baby.”

“Some kids grow in their mom’s stomach; I grew in my mom’s heart,” Judge recently told Newsday. “She’s always showed me love and compassion ever since I was a little baby. I’ve never needed to think differently or wonder about anything.”

Judge told North Jersey that he sends flowers to his mother every Mother’s Day. He takes his mother’s delicious chocolate chip cookies back to New York with him after a West Coast trip."


Thank his adoptive parents, fans - ( New Window )
spike  
MadPlaid : 10/19/2017 12:25 pm : link
Thank you for sharing. I think I like Judge even more. Very happy he is a Yankee.
That was good...  
Dan in the Springs : 10/19/2017 1:22 pm : link
thanks for sharing. I liked the detail about Judge's footwork in the box, and I liked even better his response about it (just how I feel, not about the pitcher).


Seems like his normal, humble response. I think it might have been more about his smarts than anything else. If indeed he is setting his feet based on what he expects from a pitcher, like a late breaking ball or a fastball, why telegraph that to pitchers and return the advantage?
as a group they seem to be smarter than the average bear, not just  
Victor in CT : 10/19/2017 1:28 pm : link
relying on physical gifts but understanding the game. Very old school "Yankee Way" approach. All have had struggles and adjusted and come back better for it. And all likeable guys, not phony or me-first types.
Jeter would have been 18.  
Beezer : 10/19/2017 1:45 pm : link


Jeter's high school girlfriend.  
Beezer : 10/19/2017 1:49 pm : link
Class of 1992.

yeah, if true, and hearing the stories about Jeter  
GentleGiant : 10/19/2017 1:55 pm : link
throughout the years there may be many more Aaron Judges coming through MLB's systems in the coming years. Probably why they are talking about expansion!
Jeter bought the Marlins  
spike : 10/19/2017 2:24 pm : link
so he can draft his kids!
Aaron Judge being Jeter's biological son....  
Tesla : 10/19/2017 2:34 pm : link
would be the greatest story in the history of sports and the world in general.

While it's 99.999999% not likely to be true there are a lot of reasons to believe it's possible (i.e. the timing works, both bi-racial, uncanny similarities, etc).

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