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Pete in VA : 10/19/2017 2:38 pm
It's been a couple years since I lost my dog, a Standard Poodle. Standards are great but my wife wants to get a smaller dog this time. I'm ok with that but the catch is that we both work and are gone all day (8+ hours). My Standard had an excellent bladder and could last all day with no problem. My impression is that smaller dogs in general can't go as long, but maybe that's not true. Is bladder size something that varies by breed? Will I have to commit to a mid-day dog walker if I get a smaller dog?
I'm so sorry  
Andy Sky : 10/19/2017 2:50 pm : link
I've been there many times, most recently with the first cat I ever had and it is still tearing up 5 months later. Our pets really do become like family members.

The only advice I have is to not spend a ton of energy wondering about the "when" question. They have a way of letting you know when it is time.
Andy  
Pete in VA : 10/19/2017 2:52 pm : link
I think you meant this for arcarsenal. You may want to repost there.
My dog is a Jack  
pjcas18 : 10/19/2017 2:56 pm : link
Russell mix, 25 pounds, and she can go all day without going to the bathroom.

I struggle with leaving the dog home alone all day in a crate though.

If no one is home we bring her to doggy day care where she's uncrated and plays with other dogs all day.

That can be expensive though I guess. Most days I'm home with her since I work out of the house.

She is crate trained but rarely spends more than a couple hours in her crate any more.
Pet  
ZogZerg : 10/19/2017 2:58 pm : link
We have small dogs and work all day as well. Yes, they can easily go 8hrs after they are trained. Never had an issue.
that should have said: Pete  
ZogZerg : 10/19/2017 2:58 pm : link
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We don't crate our dog during the day  
ZogZerg : 10/19/2017 3:00 pm : link
She has free run of the house. She loves sitting on the chair in the living room so she can look outside.
pjcas  
Pete in VA : 10/19/2017 3:00 pm : link
My Standard had the run of the house. I never used a crate after he was trained, so having to crate a dog never occurred to me. Is that what most people do when they're gone all day?
I have always had mid to large dogs  
steve in ky : 10/19/2017 3:00 pm : link
but we just recently also added a second very small dog to the family.

I hope that he will end up being able to hold it that long. My parents have a Bichon Frise and he can go all day with no problems so I kind of assume that the size is still relative to the amount of urine they hold so it isn't much different because of their size.

I do think some individual dogs may vary with their ability to go longer or not regardless of their size; more kind of luck of the draw.
I can't say anything universally  
Jim in Fairfax : 10/19/2017 3:03 pm : link
But our 25 pound dog can go all day. We rarely leave her that long though.
Smaller dogs do have smaller bladders but they drink less water, so I think that's probably not a big factor.

There's probably no universal answer here. Each dog is different. Certainly the dog is going to need a midday walk during the first 6-12 months if you get a puppy. And Even if you're getting a rescue, the dog needs to develop new habits.
RE: pjcas  
pjcas18 : 10/19/2017 3:06 pm : link
In comment 13656564 Pete in VA said:
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My Standard had the run of the house. I never used a crate after he was trained, so having to crate a dog never occurred to me. Is that what most people do when they're gone all day?


Many people do. Our dog, which was a rescue, has never gone to the bathroom in the house (literally zero times), and never eaten anything she wasn't supposed to except toilet paper/tissue from the bathroom trash can when one of the kids left the bathroom door open.

but if we're gone long periods we do crate her. She loves the crate though so it's not a punishment, it protects her and us.

my comment was more if you planned to crate her 8 hours a day 5 days a week, I think that would be cruel.

run of the house is different, but I've never been comfortable with that either.
I usually don't crate my dogs much  
steve in ky : 10/19/2017 3:13 pm : link
But I have read that adult dogs can be safely crated for up to six hours during the day and eight at night. For puppies their maximum crate time is their age in months plus one.
Does it have to be a small dog  
WillVAB : 10/19/2017 3:51 pm : link
Or a smaller dog? Mine is a 40 lb corgi/Australian Sheppard mix and she can hold it all day if need be.

I've got a 15 pounder  
I Love Clams Casino : 10/19/2017 4:27 pm : link
she goes all day without having an accident.

Smaller dogs are way more neurotic though. She was tough to train though, very tough. The outcome is that she has waaaaay more personality than your average dog, and she's a very very good dog

you can follow her of you want on Instagram comezoomwithroob

My daughter created it
You should have a gog walker come by.  
Giant John : 10/19/2017 4:58 pm : link
Especially if you get a pup. Remember they need exercise too.
Pete  
RinR : 10/19/2017 5:08 pm : link
We have a doxon/beagle mix. He's is 19 lbs and goes 7-8 hrs with no accidents. We got him as a rescue when he was 1 maybe 1 1/2 and had to train him. On occasion, he has gone longer with no problems.
Animal Planet has a cool  
Motley Two : 10/19/2017 5:08 pm : link
compatibility quiz on their site that's a pretty fun way to start searching different breads. It'll match you with a breed of dog & give you some other comparable options too.
Link - ( New Window )
not fair to the dog to leave them every day like that  
BigBlue2112 : 10/19/2017 5:19 pm : link
check out apps Rover or Wag! which are sortof like uber for dog walkers. We swear by it.
Yes they can  
ctc in ftmyers : 10/19/2017 5:31 pm : link
once trained. Dogs can have accidents up to 2 years of age when they are considered adult. The older the rarer.

As far as keeping them in a crate for 8 hours, 5 days a week, it's not a problem. Whatever their routine is, That's what they are happy with.

Dogs at home  
Archer : 10/19/2017 5:40 pm : link
More important than the size of a dog is the dogs personality and temperament.

Some breeds require a lot of activity and should not be left home alone for long periods of time.

Other breeds are perfectly content to be left unattended.

its not just the bladder you have to worry about  
Ron from Ninerland : 10/19/2017 6:51 pm : link
Some dogs just don't like being left alone and will become destructive if they are left alone too long and too often.
Cavalier King Charles Spaniels are great  
PatersonPlank : 10/19/2017 7:21 pm : link
Especially if you get an older one (5 years old+). They are small, tidy, good alone, and have great temperment. You can adopt a rescue from cavaliers usa.
aybe consider two dogs  
Boatie Warrant : 10/20/2017 8:06 am : link
if they are going to be home alone. That way they have a campanion
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