The Red Sox have settled on their man: Alex Cora, the Astros' bench coach, will be named Boston's new manager after the completion of the ALCS, according to a report from LasMayores.com, MLB's official Spanish website.
not a reaction to the choice - he could turn out to a great one. Just a reaction to the announcement. He's going to be available after the ALCS? Who'd they ask, Yankees fans?
I agree - he should make plans to go on to Boston during the WS because he won't be needed by Houston then.
Funny how quickly things can change in a 7 game series.
not a reaction to the choice - he could turn out to a great one. Just a reaction to the announcement. He's going to be available after the ALCS? Who'd they ask, Yankees fans?
I agree - he should make plans to go on to Boston during the WS because he won't be needed by Houston then.
Funny how quickly things can change in a 7 game series.
Wow. I think you may be taking the timing a bit too seriously, lol. I don't see anything in there that says "after the ALCS because the Astros will be eliminated by then..."
Wow. I think you may be taking the timing a bit too seriously, lol. I don't see anything in there that says "after the ALCS because the Astros will be eliminated by then..."
Eh, I'm not really taking it seriously, it was just funny to read it put that way. How hard would it have been to say he'd be announced after the playoffs instead?
my first choice but I'm not going to kill the team if they hire him. He has a completely different attitude than Terry from everything I've heard and IMO he'll be fine. He's a tireless worker and is in tune with modern baseball trends/stats.
The only positive from the Yankees likely winning the world series is that it'll put some pressure on the Wilpons to maybe spend a bit more this offseason.
that teams make no major announcements during the LCS.
they probably give them a window where they prefer they make announcements between the LCS and the WS to not take away the attention the participants deserve.
And then again, they will probably ask teams not to make announcements during the WS.
MLB probably has a request
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that teams make no major announcements during the LCS.
I believe they are also waiting until the postseason is finished before slamming the fucking hammer on the Braves and their former GM. Guessing they don't want anything like that to be a topic of discussion during these games. Should be a fun offseason.
a team that was in the playoffs get their guy 2 weeks after firing their previous manager while the Mets who have had since July to figure this out still not know who their guy is?
a team that was in the playoffs get their guy 2 weeks after firing their previous manager while the Mets who have had since July to figure this out still not know who their guy is?
This organization is just so deflating
Who cares how long it takes? I'd rather they take their time and be deliberate than rush into something.
Not that Cora was the Red Sox rushing into something for the Red Sox, but I don't mind the Mets not signing the first guy they interview.
played for the Sawx for about 4 years, not surprised,
they really need a younger voice in THAT clubhouse.
Only in Boston, can you make the playoffs three out of five years, and win a WS, and also fire the manager.
a team that was in the playoffs get their guy 2 weeks after firing their previous manager while the Mets who have had since July to figure this out still not know who their guy is?
This organization is just so deflating
Who cares how long it takes? I'd rather they take their time and be deliberate than rush into something.
Not that Cora was the Red Sox rushing into something for the Red Sox, but I don't mind the Mets not signing the first guy they interview.
Are they really being deliberate though? Seems like a dog and pony show. And they intended to hire Long the whole time. Ever since the day they fired Collins, they told you Long was coming back. Even though hes not even under contract for next season.
They can spare us the bs. And go ahead and do what they intended and thats to hire Long and bring in Dave Eileen as pitching coach. Yawn. They should at least try to grab Chilli Davis for hitting coach
I do not think the Mets will be any better with Alex Cora than they would be with Kevin Long.
The season, once again, will ride on the health of the pitching staff.
DeGrom and Thor primarily, but Wheeler, Matz and Harvey too. Harvey could be cooked, Matz may be perennially injured and Wheeler might be done as well, so Gsellman and Lugo need to be healthy then too.
Between the 7 of them they could still be a playoff rotation.
No manager is going to change that IMO.
Sandy is done in two years and then there will be a new GM and new manager. If I was Alex Cora despite the massive youthful talent difference between the Red Sox and Mets knowing Sandy is temporary would have swayed me too.
Dog and pony show? maybe, but I still see no rush to name a manager and I'm not worked up about it, even if it winds up to be Kevin Long.
I do not think the Mets will be any better with Alex Cora than they would be with Kevin Long.
The season, once again, will ride on the health of the pitching staff.
DeGrom and Thor primarily, but Wheeler, Matz and Harvey too. Harvey could be cooked, Matz may be perennially injured and Wheeler might be done as well, so Gsellman and Lugo need to be healthy then too.
Between the 7 of them they could still be a playoff rotation.
No manager is going to change that IMO.
Sandy is done in two years and then there will be a new GM and new manager. If I was Alex Cora despite the massive youthful talent difference between the Red Sox and Mets knowing Sandy is temporary would have swayed me too.
Dog and pony show? maybe, but I still see no rush to name a manager and I'm not worked up about it, even if it winds up to be Kevin Long.
Good post. As much as I hope Sandy does something dramatic this offseason, the starting pitchers are going to sink or swim next season. Even signing the top 2 FA at positions of need wouldn't change that, nor will whoever they choose as manager - though both are obviously extremely important if they want to build the best team they can.
@juvie_cinephile @jeffpaternostro @PSLToFlushing @MetsMerized @Ben_Yoel @NYSportzNut Acta has Mets ties and is hugely into the "numbers"
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Say that TC does get fired, who would you want to manage the Mets next year?
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always found him to be a nice mix of "going with his gut" and knowledge of metrics. Bilingual, youngish, well spoken.
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@jeffpaternostro As for Acta people would focus on his record, his teams have had HORRENDOUS talent.
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I know they have always been high on Manny Acta
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Like I said, I like Manny Acta on the basis of what comes out of his mouth. No idea if he can be a winning manager or not.
red flag with Manny... he can have loose lips which is obviously a concern in NY. The media might be able to bait him a bit. I'm a Manny Acta fan, but they need to improve the roster.
Yea I like Acta but i'm mostly interested to hear what their vision is
in the intro press conference. Yes they are always dog and pony shows, but I'm hoping to hear that they are looking to not only change the culture of the team but also tweak the style they play. Recommitting to fundamentals, working tough AB's, and defense would be great to hear. Who they hire as manager is going to be less important to those ends than the players they acquire, but it would be great to hear that they are going in that direction.
has become a major talking point but is insanely overrated. A guy on twitter (before oddly resorting to name calling when I disagreed AND supplied data) suggested the 2017 Mets would have won between 11 and 15 games more with Dusty Baker...
is usually overrated in terms of W/L for most teams. I think the number uniformly accepted is a baseball manager can impact wins or losses by 5 games on average. No clue where that came from, but I believe it. It seems reasonable.
However, for the Mets that 5 games would have been irrelevant (positively - if they could have lost 5 more it could have helped lol in terms of draft position), but for many teams that 5 games could be the difference between playoffs or not or could be the difference between wild card and division.
So, while nominally the managerial impact in baseball is in most opinions somewhat limited sometimes even with the limits the impact can be meaningful.
Mets...
I agree - he should make plans to go on to Boston during the WS because he won't be needed by Houston then.
Funny how quickly things can change in a 7 game series.
I agree - he should make plans to go on to Boston during the WS because he won't be needed by Houston then.
Funny how quickly things can change in a 7 game series.
Wow. I think you may be taking the timing a bit too seriously, lol. I don't see anything in there that says "after the ALCS because the Astros will be eliminated by then..."
Wow. I think you may be taking the timing a bit too seriously, lol. I don't see anything in there that says "after the ALCS because the Astros will be eliminated by then..."
Eh, I'm not really taking it seriously, it was just funny to read it put that way. How hard would it have been to say he'd be announced after the playoffs instead?
Just made me laugh a bit is all.
The only positive from the Yankees likely winning the world series is that it'll put some pressure on the Wilpons to maybe spend a bit more this offseason.
they probably give them a window where they prefer they make announcements between the LCS and the WS to not take away the attention the participants deserve.
And then again, they will probably ask teams not to make announcements during the WS.
I believe this is pretty standard protocol.
I guess theyre going back to the basics with an old school guy. Like a clean-lunged Leyland, haha.
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that teams make no major announcements during the LCS.
I believe they are also waiting until the postseason is finished before slamming the fucking hammer on the Braves and their former GM. Guessing they don't want anything like that to be a topic of discussion during these games. Should be a fun offseason.
This organization is just so deflating
This organization is just so deflating
Who cares how long it takes? I'd rather they take their time and be deliberate than rush into something.
Not that Cora was the Red Sox rushing into something for the Red Sox, but I don't mind the Mets not signing the first guy they interview.
they really need a younger voice in THAT clubhouse.
Only in Boston, can you make the playoffs three out of five years, and win a WS, and also fire the manager.
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a team that was in the playoffs get their guy 2 weeks after firing their previous manager while the Mets who have had since July to figure this out still not know who their guy is?
This organization is just so deflating
Who cares how long it takes? I'd rather they take their time and be deliberate than rush into something.
Not that Cora was the Red Sox rushing into something for the Red Sox, but I don't mind the Mets not signing the first guy they interview.
Are they really being deliberate though? Seems like a dog and pony show. And they intended to hire Long the whole time. Ever since the day they fired Collins, they told you Long was coming back. Even though hes not even under contract for next season.
They can spare us the bs. And go ahead and do what they intended and thats to hire Long and bring in Dave Eileen as pitching coach. Yawn. They should at least try to grab Chilli Davis for hitting coach
The season, once again, will ride on the health of the pitching staff.
DeGrom and Thor primarily, but Wheeler, Matz and Harvey too. Harvey could be cooked, Matz may be perennially injured and Wheeler might be done as well, so Gsellman and Lugo need to be healthy then too.
Between the 7 of them they could still be a playoff rotation.
No manager is going to change that IMO.
Sandy is done in two years and then there will be a new GM and new manager. If I was Alex Cora despite the massive youthful talent difference between the Red Sox and Mets knowing Sandy is temporary would have swayed me too.
Dog and pony show? maybe, but I still see no rush to name a manager and I'm not worked up about it, even if it winds up to be Kevin Long.
The fact that Barwis is still affiliated with them is telling
The season, once again, will ride on the health of the pitching staff.
DeGrom and Thor primarily, but Wheeler, Matz and Harvey too. Harvey could be cooked, Matz may be perennially injured and Wheeler might be done as well, so Gsellman and Lugo need to be healthy then too.
Between the 7 of them they could still be a playoff rotation.
No manager is going to change that IMO.
Sandy is done in two years and then there will be a new GM and new manager. If I was Alex Cora despite the massive youthful talent difference between the Red Sox and Mets knowing Sandy is temporary would have swayed me too.
Dog and pony show? maybe, but I still see no rush to name a manager and I'm not worked up about it, even if it winds up to be Kevin Long.
Good post. As much as I hope Sandy does something dramatic this offseason, the starting pitchers are going to sink or swim next season. Even signing the top 2 FA at positions of need wouldn't change that, nor will whoever they choose as manager - though both are obviously extremely important if they want to build the best team they can.
you also said you expected them to hire Long, Geren or Hale.
you've covered a lot of bases.
lol (just busting your balls I have no doubt you suggested Acta in 2013).
For the record, Law likes Acta a lot.
Best choice out of the remaining candidates
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Michael Mayer @mikemayerMMO 11 Aug 2016
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Say that TC does get fired, who would you want to manage the Mets next year?
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always found him to be a nice mix of "going with his gut" and knowledge of metrics. Bilingual, youngish, well spoken.
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@jeffpaternostro As for Acta people would focus on his record, his teams have had HORRENDOUS talent.
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I know they have always been high on Manny Acta
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Like I said, I like Manny Acta on the basis of what comes out of his mouth. No idea if he can be a winning manager or not.
However, for the Mets that 5 games would have been irrelevant (positively - if they could have lost 5 more it could have helped lol in terms of draft position), but for many teams that 5 games could be the difference between playoffs or not or could be the difference between wild card and division.
So, while nominally the managerial impact in baseball is in most opinions somewhat limited sometimes even with the limits the impact can be meaningful.