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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/22/2017 7:13 pm
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The talent  
well...bye TC : 10/22/2017 7:15 pm : link
just isnt there.
The game isn't technically over...  
M.S. : 10/22/2017 7:16 pm : link

...but it will be soon.

As is the season.

It's all about Draft position now.

Only problem: Jerry Reese will still be here.
With the third pick in the NFL draft  
jeff57 : 10/22/2017 7:16 pm : link
The Giants take ....
So much for Magic Mike Sullivan's play calling or the team being  
Devon : 10/22/2017 7:17 pm : link
better without its four best WRs.
I will look at the bright side  
Jay on the Island : 10/22/2017 7:18 pm : link
We will get our next franchise QB out of this debacle.
RE: With the third pick in the NFL draft  
Devon : 10/22/2017 7:18 pm : link
In comment 13660272 jeff57 said:
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The Giants take ....


Saquon Barkley, hopefully.

More likely Jake Locker 2.0, Allen though.
It's amazing how 1 mistake kills us  
SHO'NUFF : 10/22/2017 7:18 pm : link
a false start leads to a missed field goal...a bad defensive call on 2 and 20 without a center fielder...mind-boggling...
Baker Mayfield would sure look good in Blue...  
M.S. : 10/22/2017 7:19 pm : link

...it's all about Draft position.

I'm seeing 1 or 2 wins max the rest of the way.

2-14 sounds about right.

Baker Mayfield.
It's on for Saquon?  
dpinzow : 10/22/2017 7:19 pm : link
...
Good time for the bye.  
Rick5 : 10/22/2017 7:19 pm : link
No more torture for a while.
Offense has nothing after Engram  
est1986 : 10/22/2017 7:19 pm : link
What a disappointing year for this team.
how can anyone want to watch this team  
micky : 10/22/2017 7:19 pm : link
Denver was the abberation and if Denver had taken them seriously they'd still be winless.
No talent  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 10/22/2017 7:19 pm : link
And Eli plain sucks this year. He missed at least 10 throws today. Please just get blown out the rest of the season so we can get a full regime change. Seriously. Worst offense I've ever seen.
RE: With the third pick in the NFL draft  
EricJ : 10/22/2017 7:20 pm : link
In comment 13660272 jeff57 said:
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The Giants take ....

... an athletic player who is raw but with tremendous upside!
Alot of magical thinking on this site...  
M.S. : 10/22/2017 7:20 pm : link

...after Denver game.

But save for 2 or 3 big runs last week, that offense sucked in Denver. Just like it sucked today.

Gotta get us a new QB.

And a re-vamped O-line.
RE: how can anyone want to watch this team  
rebel yell : 10/22/2017 7:20 pm : link
In comment 13660297 micky said:
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Denver was the abberation and if Denver had taken them seriously they'd still be winless.

Denver is about to lose to the Chargers. They're not all the special. On the other, we are horrible in every aspect. A joke.
What day is the annual Jerry Reese bye week presser?  
bceagle05 : 10/22/2017 7:20 pm : link
Should be hilarious.
RE: Baker Mayfield would sure look good in Blue...  
dpinzow : 10/22/2017 7:21 pm : link
In comment 13660291 M.S. said:
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...it's all about Draft position.

I'm seeing 1 or 2 wins max the rest of the way.

2-14 sounds about right.

Baker Mayfield.


Baker Mayfield in NYC isn't exactly a good idea
RE: What day is the annual Jerry Reese bye week presser?  
EricJ : 10/22/2017 7:21 pm : link
In comment 13660312 bceagle05 said:
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Should be hilarious.


"We still have a lot of football ahead of us. Not making any evaluations or decisions now"
Now sure what anyone would expect...  
wma31 : 10/22/2017 7:21 pm : link
This offense has 4 practice squad guys trying to run around having no clue what a route looks like.

Engram is the lone weapon but can only do so much.

The ground game went back to normal bad level and then Pugh went down and we got to see more of Hart being a mess.

The defense got gassed.

We better get used to it.
time to clean house  
Nitro : 10/22/2017 7:22 pm : link
seasons wasted, get the fat dope with a mustache out of town during the bye, let Spags limp us to the finish line.
Did Pugh go out win an injury?  
M.S. : 10/22/2017 7:22 pm : link

The guy wants big money... plays well when he's in there... and doesn't look so good when he can't suit up, which is often.

I would not open the vault for this guy.
RE: Did Pugh go out win an injury?  
micky : 10/22/2017 7:22 pm : link
In comment 13660320 M.S. said:
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The guy wants big money... plays well when he's in there... and doesn't look so good when he can't suit up, which is often.

I would not open the vault for this guy.


back injury
I love Eli, but it's time to move on.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/22/2017 7:22 pm : link
It's not all his fault, but the line needs to be damn near perfect for him to be good and that's not really possible in today's NFL.

DRC played like he was on self-imposed suspension. Janoris Jenkins flat out sucked today. Landon Collins wasn't particularly good either.

Sully did enough dumb shit that we can now be certain it's not all Mac's fault. Or maybe it is... IDK. Frankly I don't even give a shit anymore.
Poorly conceived offense overall  
idiotsavant : 10/22/2017 7:22 pm : link
Bobby Hart coming in ended it.

Had hope for Sully, at least he was learning, JR and Macadoo maybe not.

But...offensive schematics looked pretty weak this game, even given the roster.

Idiocy to blame the D here.
RE: Baker Mayfield would sure look good in Blue...  
jeff57 : 10/22/2017 7:23 pm : link
In comment 13660291 M.S. said:
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...it's all about Draft position.

I'm seeing 1 or 2 wins max the rest of the way.

2-14 sounds about right.

Baker Mayfield.


No, no, no. Give me Rosen or Jackson. Or even Mason Rudolph.
Oh...  
wma31 : 10/22/2017 7:23 pm : link
I forgot we have a kicker who you can't be counted on for a mid 40's FG which would have tied the game.

Yeah. So many problems on this team that it's hard to keep track.
RE: No talent  
Devon : 10/22/2017 7:23 pm : link
In comment 13660300 Tim in Eternal Blue said:
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And Eli plain sucks this year. He missed at least 10 throws today. Please just get blown out the rest of the season so we can get a full regime change. Seriously. Worst offense I've ever seen.


I really don't want to defend Eli after that fumble, but he absolutely did not miss 10 throws today (at least before this waste of time drive that's going on where he'll probably throw a pick just because).

His time is up here, but he basically was sent into a live war with a BB gun.
RE: RE: how can anyone want to watch this team  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/22/2017 7:24 pm : link
In comment 13660311 rebel yell said:
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In comment 13660297 micky said:


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Denver was the abberation and if Denver had taken them seriously they'd still be winless.


Denver is about to lose to the Chargers. They're not all the special. On the other, we are horrible in every aspect. A joke.


Problem with that argument is this is the first time in 5 games the Giants didn't have the lead with 3.5 minutes left in the game. The defense has been a terrible disappointment.
This is the result of  
WillVAB : 10/22/2017 7:25 pm : link
Years and years of shitty drafts and bad coaching.
Reese should be fired tomorrow morning.  
FStubbs : 10/22/2017 7:25 pm : link
It's a good time to get rid of the GM and let a new voice come in.

I'd get rid of McAdoo too, but somebody has to stand out on the sidelines the rest of the year.

This team is horrible and has been for years.
RE: Poorly conceived offense overall  
EricJ : 10/22/2017 7:25 pm : link
In comment 13660324 idiotsavant said:
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Had hope for Sully, at least he was learning


oh come on.. We wanted Sullivan fired years ago the last time around. The only reason why there was any glimmer of hope was because of how fucked up the play calling was under Ben. The thought was that it could only get better. Sullivan is a piece of shit too... just a different piece of shit.
Denver lost 21-0 to LAC  
bluepepper : 10/22/2017 7:25 pm : link
today. So maybe we won last week because they suck?
I mean, ONE play, one frigging play,  
idiotsavant : 10/22/2017 7:26 pm : link
Hart came in and Manning was sprinting out of the pocket, fast like, and made a play actually.

This is not on manning. This is squarely on JR and the O style generally.
I would pull the plug on McAdoo if I was Mara...  
Chris684 : 10/22/2017 7:26 pm : link
Mac was hired mainly to oversee the twilight of Eli's career so that Eli wasn't subjected to 3 systems in 4 years at the time we were making the hire.

The plan around Eli has blown up, as sad as it is to say. All that's left beyond this season is maybe another year or less in a Kurt Warner type role as he eventually makes way to Webb or a high draft pick.

Do it now. Promote Spags. Put everyone on notice that this year won't come without major change/consequences.

I was on board after 11-5. I am not on board after pissing away 5 games of a should be playoff season with the wrong o-line and refusing to give up playcalling.
Sign me up for Barkley, he looks better than anyone in college  
PatersonPlank : 10/22/2017 7:26 pm : link
The QB's don't look good, I think Webb is likely better than them right now. I'd also think about offensive line, if not in Rd 1 then in 2 &3.
RE: I love Eli, but it's time to move on.  
FStubbs : 10/22/2017 7:26 pm : link
In comment 13660323 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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It's not all his fault, but the line needs to be damn near perfect for him to be good and that's not really possible in today's NFL.

DRC played like he was on self-imposed suspension. Janoris Jenkins flat out sucked today. Landon Collins wasn't particularly good either.

Sully did enough dumb shit that we can now be certain it's not all Mac's fault. Or maybe it is... IDK. Frankly I don't even give a shit anymore.


Yeah, guys are making business decisions now and trying to play out the string without getting hurt.
RE: Poorly conceived offense overall  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/22/2017 7:27 pm : link
In comment 13660324 idiotsavant said:
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Idiocy to blame the D here.


Normally I would agree, but Jenkins/DRC/Collins were the worst players on the field for the defense. That should really never ever happen. Donte freakin' Deayon played well for goodness sakes.
4-12  
well...bye TC : 10/22/2017 7:27 pm : link
is about the best i can come up with looking at the sked
RE: Denver lost 21-0 to LAC  
jeff57 : 10/22/2017 7:27 pm : link
In comment 13660338 bluepepper said:
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today. So maybe we won last week because they suck?


Powder blue power.
there are maybe 31 other NFL head coaches  
SHO'NUFF : 10/22/2017 7:27 pm : link
that can make better adjustments with the same roster...McAdoo has his head up his ass all season long.
RE: Sign me up for Barkley, he looks better than anyone in college  
FStubbs : 10/22/2017 7:27 pm : link
In comment 13660345 PatersonPlank said:
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The QB's don't look good, I think Webb is likely better than them right now. I'd also think about offensive line, if not in Rd 1 then in 2 &3.


How's Barkley averaging more than 3 yards a carry behind this line?
Also bad things happen to bad teams...  
wma31 : 10/22/2017 7:27 pm : link
Engram stepping out on big play. The trick play TD that could have been called Collins pick. The penalty before missed FG. Every little thing seems to go against you when you're bad.
Did Pugh go out win an injury?  
M.S. : 10/22/2017 7:28 pm : link

The guy wants big money... plays well when he's in there... and doesn't look so good when he can't suit up, which is often.

I would not open the vault for this guy.
Fire this coach already  
Geomon : 10/22/2017 7:29 pm : link
Nothing else to lose
Pete carrol is such an asshole!  
Simms11 : 10/22/2017 7:30 pm : link
Smug asshole!
Hope Mara likes a December filled with  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/22/2017 7:30 pm : link
his division rivals' fans filling up the stadium.
Too many injuries  
bc4life : 10/22/2017 7:32 pm : link
to overcome. They eventually get worn down.
Barkley  
ryanmkeane : 10/22/2017 7:32 pm : link
OL-OL sounds great
The Giants suck  
rocco8112 : 10/22/2017 7:32 pm : link
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