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Ereck Flowers - Silver Lining

adamg : 10/22/2017 8:06 pm
At least Ereck Flowers isn't our biggest problem anymore. The biggest problem is we need a total overhaul of coaches and talent.

Flowers actually looks like he can play.
Flower  
Paulie Walnuts : 10/22/2017 8:08 pm : link
is a guard max
RE: Flower  
adamg : 10/22/2017 8:09 pm : link
In comment 13660536 Paulie Walnuts said:
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is a guard max


He's a left tackle max. He may be better suited at RG or RT. But he can play.
He looks like he's the 26th best OLT in the league  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 10/22/2017 8:09 pm : link
as opposed to the 32nd which is a bit of an improvement.
He has not been the  
joeinpa : 10/22/2017 8:10 pm : link
Problem
Bobby Hart was the only real issue with the line today.  
eclipz928 : 10/22/2017 8:10 pm : link
Ereck Flowers has been playing decent since Week 3. Today he had a very good game.
Fluker was trash on the Manning fumble  
HomerJones45 : 10/22/2017 8:13 pm : link
got shoved right out of the way.

We can't throw a 20 yard pass because these clowns can't hold the line for 3 seconds and you want to hand out kudos to the left tackle. Perfect.
It was a bad day  
81_Great_Dane : 10/22/2017 8:24 pm : link
but I had the same thought about Flowers: He was doing his job.

Pugh out, Hart in - that hurt.

I think it's Hart who's a guard max. I don't think he's got a high ceiling.
we should have kept the OL from last week  
George from PA : 10/22/2017 8:29 pm : link
Why did they change?
For all the Engram love(which I don’t have any issue with)  
LauderdaleMatty : 10/22/2017 8:30 pm : link
Both Cam Robinson and Ryan Ramcyck(sp?) were worth it at that spot. All he idiots who swore there wasn’t anyone woth that 25th pick please step forward.

We needed OL but Reese and his whole staff are atrocious at finding OL.

They clustered 3 high picks due to need. Pugh is a B. Good pick. Flowers should be a RT and it’s going to be a big risk offering him that 5th year. They really have no Choice though as
Here is zero depth

Richberg’s replacememt should have been found this year. Pugh may get a too rich offer from somewhere else.

TheRe are still a few die hard idiots but the “In Reese we Trust “ crowd are back under their rocks thankfully.
RE: Flower  
Gatorade Dunk : 10/22/2017 8:35 pm : link
In comment 13660536 Paulie Walnuts said:
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is a guard max

WTF is a guard max?
guard, (comma) max  
markky : 10/22/2017 8:36 pm : link
punctuation counts
RE: RE: Flower  
LauderdaleMatty : 10/22/2017 8:42 pm : link
In comment 13660601 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 13660536 Paulie Walnuts said:


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is a guard max


WTF is a guard max?


I assume he means his max potential is as a Guard
The best way to make Flowers look good  
Jimmy Googs : 10/22/2017 8:45 pm : link
is to not move the ball very well...
RE: RE: Flower  
B in ALB : 10/22/2017 8:48 pm : link
In comment 13660601 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 13660536 Paulie Walnuts said:


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is a guard max


WTF is a guard max?


Shut your mouth. Paulie Slapnuts is a well known lineman expert. He played OG in the Polish League during the US War against Polish Aggression in the'70s.
RE: For all the Engram love(which I don’t have any issue with)  
The_Boss : 10/22/2017 9:07 pm : link
In comment 13660592 LauderdaleMatty said:
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Both Cam Robinson and Ryan Ramcyck(sp?) were worth it at that spot. All he idiots who swore there wasn’t anyone woth that 25th pick please step forward.

We needed OL but Reese and his whole staff are atrocious at finding OL.

They clustered 3 high picks due to need. Pugh is a B. Good pick. Flowers should be a RT and it’s going to be a big risk offering him that 5th year. They really have no Choice though as
Here is zero depth

Richberg’s replacememt should have been found this year. Pugh may get a too rich offer from somewhere else.

TheRe are still a few die hard idiots but the “In Reese we Trust “ crowd are back under their rocks thankfully.


Zero shot Flowers gets that 5th year. The rudicule the organization would get from that would be warranted.
Spot on  
Bluesbreaker : 10/22/2017 9:09 pm : link
For all the Engram love(which I don’t have any issue with)
LauderdaleMatty : 8:30 pm : link : reply
Both Cam Robinson and Ryan Ramcyck(sp?) were worth it at that spot. All he idiots who swore there wasn’t anyone woth that 25th pick please step forward.

We needed OL but Reese and his whole staff are atrocious at finding OL.

They clustered 3 high picks due to need. Pugh is a B. Good pick. Flowers should be a RT and it’s going to be a big risk offering him that 5th year. They really have no Choice though as
Here is zero depth

Richberg’s replacememt should have been found this year. Pugh may get a too rich offer from somewhere else.

TheRe are still a few die hard idiots but the “In Reese we Trust “ crowd are back under their rocks thankfully.

Let Richberg walk last years draft was a waste Engram is a nice player we needed O-line could of had Dion Dawkins as well . If we finish badly top 3 pick would you take Barkley and trade OBJ ? I have no idea what he could bring
say if its a @1 #2 and a #3 we could take Barley the best center or LT depending on what Flowers does . You could even double down in the 2nd round or go for LB DE ect
RE: RE: RE: Flower  
Gatorade Dunk : 10/22/2017 9:28 pm : link
In comment 13660635 LauderdaleMatty said:
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In comment 13660601 Gatorade Dunk said:


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In comment 13660536 Paulie Walnuts said:


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is a guard max


WTF is a guard max?



I assume he means his max potential is as a Guard

Ah, thanks. Much appreciated.
Flowers has looked decent to even good  
dpinzow : 10/22/2017 9:38 pm : link
since Ansah humiliated him in Week 2. He hasn't been repeatedly beaten by any DE since. Maybe he's finally developing
RE: It was a bad day  
dpinzow : 10/22/2017 9:41 pm : link
In comment 13660577 81_Great_Dane said:
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but I had the same thought about Flowers: He was doing his job.

Pugh out, Hart in - that hurt.

I think it's Hart who's a guard max. I don't think he's got a high ceiling.


Hart is a backup max
At this point you absolutely pick up the 5th year  
est1986 : 10/22/2017 10:28 pm : link
Its not guarenteed. Not much risk and not many better options on the horizon guys.
RE: Bobby Hart was the only real issue with the line today.  
section125 : 10/23/2017 6:04 am : link
In comment 13660552 eclipz928 said:
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Ereck Flowers has been playing decent since Week 3. Today he had a very good game.


Wrong. 1 false start does not make him the only real issue. He handle Bennett quite well.
Eli fumbled again and he missed a few open receivers. Fluker and Jones missed the block that caused the fumble. Collins and DRC blew coverages all day. Spags left the middle of the field open on a safety blitz that allowed a TD (again DRC and Collins blew the coverage.)

So one false start was worse than any of the above? Typical BBI pile on one scapegoat.
RE: we should have kept the OL from last week  
giants#1 : 10/23/2017 9:26 am : link
In comment 13660588 George from PA said:
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Why did they change?


Because Pugh left with a back injury.
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