all off-season. I can see Eli possibly playing one more year with the next starting QB waiting in the wings, watching and learning. I would say that next year will be Eli’s farewell tour.
all off-season. I can see Eli possibly playing one more year with the next starting QB waiting in the wings, watching and learning. I would say that next year will be Eli’s farewell tour.
Unless he wants to keep playing elsewhere I think you’re right.
Where hanging around at the end of your career in a losing franchise is just not worth it. He’s a 2 time SB MVP champion that will forever be loved by millions of fans with nothing else to prove. wife, 2 kids, rich and can probably transition to TV if he wants, despite his goofiness. Call me crazy, but if I were in his situation I’d retire at the end of the season.
is the end is here. He is at a point where he can manage but cannot salvage plays. He has no mobility. He fumbles way too easily when sacked. He has nobody to throw the ball too but at same time he just cannot help his oline at all and that is why we cannot win without Beckham. Without the guy who can score from 5 yards of the LOS, by blowing by people, we have to have guy working to get open further down the field. Our Oline is over matched a lot so at times Eli has to make the defensive players miss and buy time. he cannot do that.
The bad part here is he is basically waiting to get hurt. We will be behind a lot. We will have to throw to guys named Lewis, Rudolph, Shepard if he comes back -and at this point i would not rush him back, Eagen and King to throw to at WR and a TE star in the making Engram. But, Engram will get hurt sooner or later if we have to throw to him 20 times a game and hope for 8 or so completions..
This is the final year Eli will play for the Giants...
his own play and deciding what he has left and where he wants to be. As much as most here don't want to hear it, Eli's deficiencies are a significant part of the team's decline. Few if any teams have really good Olines, and his lack of mobility and inaccuracy under pressure are obvious. Every week, we see the opposing QBs escape pressure and make plays, and he can't provide that.
instead of their way, we could be 3-4 or 4-3 right now and in the hunt'. And, he would be right. I think he's an optimist so he's likely not thinking that the whole damn thing is a dumpster fire like we are. He's likely now thinking along the lines of 'let's get some Ws this year, get healthy and retool in the offseason, and give it a better shot next year.' He has to know that time isn't on his side, but I highly doubt that he questions being the starting QB for the Giants next year.
And how much input they sanctioned from him on the way.
If he was an active part of the decision making process when they decided to move on from Coughlin and over to McAdoo, then it's hard for him to be thinking much more than 'well, I didn't see this coming'.
If he had some input, and wasn't completely in favor of (or against entirely) the move, then he's got to be a bit angry that they didn't take his feedback more seriously.
Regardless - he saw how things ended for his brother, who was a better QB, and has to be thinking the writing is on the wall now.
If you think about it, the majority of the teams he's been on , have not been good teams. He won the 2 Super Bowls, but only has been to the playoffs 2 additional times. They've wasted alot of years with him; just not getting the draft or personnel right. Its a damn shame!
If you think about it, the majority of the teams he's been on , have not been good teams. He won the 2 Super Bowls, but only has been to the playoffs 2 additional times. They've wasted alot of years with him; just not getting the draft or personnel right. Its a damn shame!
4-5 good teams in 14 years. They should have had 8-10 good teams. Actually he's been to the playoff 5 times...correct?
Eli might be thinking about a SB team he saw play when he was 5. The '85 Chicago Bears. Because every f*ing defense he plays against lately looks like them.
to be a completely focused guy. I think he looking at this week by week, trying to get the team to be better. He wants to win games as much as anyone, and play well.
instead of their way, we could be 3-4 or 4-3 right now and in the hunt'. And, he would be right. I think he's an optimist so he's likely not thinking that the whole damn thing is a dumpster fire like we are. He's likely now thinking along the lines of 'let's get some Ws this year, get healthy and retool in the offseason, and give it a better shot next year.' He has to know that time isn't on his side, but I highly doubt that he questions being the starting QB for the Giants next year.
Shit, I have more career earnings than Tom Brady. I wonder if the Giants would use my nutrition company EM10.
holy shit, I thought the OL was bad, and the RB's sucked, now they give me practice squad receivers. I should just fall down if someone gets close to me. I have a consecutive games streak to think about.
"This is unfortunate. This is a shame, but this can be fixed. Give me some help and we'll make another run."
It sounds crazy, but I also think this. THIS is what makes him Eli, and it's also why you never see him peppermint rolling at his team from the bench. He's a cool optimist and a leader, and may be hard to replace.
"This is unfortunate. This is a shame, but this can be fixed. Give me some help and we'll make another run."
It sounds crazy, but I also think this. THIS is what makes him Eli, and it's also why you never see him peppermint rolling at his team from the bench. He's a cool optimist and a leader, and may be hard to replace.
Agreed. Eli isn't thinking of bailing. He's too much of a competitor, and the ultimate team player. He's thinking of how to fix the situation, and guarantee that this doesn't happen next year.
I know he always puts on the happy face in public, but with this Defense there's no way they are a few breaks away from 3-4 or 4-3. They can't get off the field, even in the 1st quarter. Can't blame that on the offense.
make ok receivers look good. Eli has rarely done that. The constant lament during Eli's tenure is that he hasn't had many good - great WRs to throw to. there's always some sort of an excuse why Eli led teams haven't achieved better success. Still, this year, it's hard to expect 4th and 5th stringers to look anything like starters.
It's really too bad that so many receivers, and now OL, are out. It makes it difficult to evaluate how Eli is doing in his twilight years.
What's going through his head? I'm sure he's upset that so many team injuries are making it darn near impossible to make a comeback for the second half of the season, but he'll keep on doing his best. Any thoughts of retirement require data input that most fans have very limited access to so I can't even hazard a guess.
...pretty much speaks for itself. He looks beat, frustrated, and bewildered. He probably knows that no matter what he wants or believes, pro football is a business, and that any rebuild in the future isn't going to be around him. I'm sure he thinks of his brother and how the Colts sent him packing. Eli knows he will never thrive again unless he has an all-pro OL in from of him...and that isn't happening with the Giants.
this defense kept us in the game for three quarters.
The offense, for a lot of games over the last few years, routinely go 3 and out, putting the D right back in the game.
It's been a long time since this offense has routinely taken control when holding a lead. It's typically a lot of 3 and outs, putting the D back on the field. We blame the D a lot for an inability to hold a lead, but when they've been doing the lions share for keeping us in the game, sometimes they're so tuckered out, from the O going 3 and out for a lot of the game, it's hard to get too down on them.
The O has a lot of blame to face up to. With this O it takes a heroic effort on the part of the D to even sniff at the possibility of a W. that's been the case even before all the top half of the WR corp went down.
This was the reason he chose to come here and not San Diego Â
this defense kept us in the game for three quarters.
The offense, for a lot of games over the last few years, routinely go 3 and out, putting the D right back in the game.
It's been a long time since this offense has routinely taken control when holding a lead. It's typically a lot of 3 and outs, putting the D back on the field. We blame the D a lot for an inability to hold a lead, but when they've been doing the lions share for keeping us in the game, sometimes they're so tuckered out, from the O going 3 and out for a lot of the game, it's hard to get too down on them.
The O has a lot of blame to face up to. With this O it takes a heroic effort on the part of the D to even sniff at the possibility of a W. that's been the case even before all the top half of the WR corp went down.
They got couple of turnovers and drops. The numbers sadly don't corroborate your point
Eli's been let down by the coaches and front office since 2004, from phony tough guy Coughlin ignoring idiots like Plax, Shockey, and Beckham to the front office disaster since the 2011 Super Bowl.
One excellent team in 14 years, and that season was ruined by when a moron shot himself after years of being placated by the head coach and front office.
I don’t think it’s in Eli’s DNA to quit. I think he doubles down with the TEs and new WRs and finds a way to get a couple more wins in games this season we have no right winning, including an NFC East win.
is going to start off something like Red's monologue from Shawshank Redemption...
Morgan Freeman Narrator:
"I like to think the last thing that went through Eli Manning's head, other then that Defensive Ends helmet, was to wonder, how in the hell did Jerry Reese manage to screw this team up so badly???"
he is thinking about each week and thinking the offense can be fixed and he is part of the solution. He is thinking he needs an OL next year and at least 1 new RB (replacing Perkins).
However, the rest of the season and the Giants draft position may affect what is going on in the back of his mind. If they end up with a top 3 pick and intend to take a QB, he may really want to be traded. Or it may be in the Giants best interests to trade him (or do so after next season). The nature of the cap and rookie deals no longer allows for a supposed franchise QB to sit for 3 years. If they decide to go that route, they cut ties with him like the Giants did with Collins and then bring in another veteran for a 1 year job like they did with Warner.
I am going to most likely miss the playoffs in 8 of 10 years to finish my career and people still wondering about my HOF chances. Plus that $20 mil a year is great
He is not leaving that money on the table if he thinks he can still play. And the Giants will be a better team with Eli on the roster at least one more season.
Hot wife - check
Healthy kids - check
Money in the bank - check
A shit ton of money in the bank - check
Playing in the NFL and still have my health - check
Trophies in the trophy case - check
Life has been pretty good to Eli Manning so I don't know why we're worried about him. His career may not end the way we all wanted but he has given us a lot to be thankful for.
ah what the hell i'll do one more year for 20 mil Â
in the past several years, what Eli really thinks deep inside. I wonder if he looks at this team and this GM and says to himself "well, they really fucked up the best years of my career by giving me no Oline, no running game and for a few years no defense".
More likely, though, I think Eli is a good soldier and just takes things week by week and tries to do his best. It would be a stunner to the organization if Eli came out and blasted the moves this front office has made. If anything could possibly shake up ownership to make a change, Eli going public with his complaints might do it. It would be national news...not just New York.
But he just doesn't strike me as that type of guy...I think he just keeps plowing ahead...going to work and just doesn't get involved in those things. But I would love to know, especially if he talks with his old Oline buddies, what he really thinks. If he didn't want to go to San Diego because of their front office mess and yet stays silent on the current mess in our FO, I truly wonder why.
That said, he has to question how the whole transition from Coughlin has gone, and I'm sure he's not happy about the state of the offensive line.
Unless he wants to keep playing elsewhere I think you’re right.
The bad part here is he is basically waiting to get hurt. We will be behind a lot. We will have to throw to guys named Lewis, Rudolph, Shepard if he comes back -and at this point i would not rush him back, Eagen and King to throw to at WR and a TE star in the making Engram. But, Engram will get hurt sooner or later if we have to throw to him 20 times a game and hope for 8 or so completions..
This is the final year Eli will play for the Giants...
This is the end
My only friend.....the end"
While I'll never hesitate to post a Doors lyric....the answer above is probably what he is thinking.
If he was an active part of the decision making process when they decided to move on from Coughlin and over to McAdoo, then it's hard for him to be thinking much more than 'well, I didn't see this coming'.
If he had some input, and wasn't completely in favor of (or against entirely) the move, then he's got to be a bit angry that they didn't take his feedback more seriously.
Regardless - he saw how things ended for his brother, who was a better QB, and has to be thinking the writing is on the wall now.
4-5 good teams in 14 years. They should have had 8-10 good teams. Actually he's been to the playoff 5 times...correct?
The offseason will be for reflection.....
He's thinking about how to win the next one.
I'd say this is the most accurate response.
Shit, I have more career earnings than Tom Brady. I wonder if the Giants would use my nutrition company EM10.
holy shit, I thought the OL was bad, and the RB's sucked, now they give me practice squad receivers. I should just fall down if someone gets close to me. I have a consecutive games streak to think about.
It sounds crazy, but I also think this. THIS is what makes him Eli, and it's also why you never see him peppermint rolling at his team from the bench. He's a cool optimist and a leader, and may be hard to replace.
Quote:
"This is unfortunate. This is a shame, but this can be fixed. Give me some help and we'll make another run."
It sounds crazy, but I also think this. THIS is what makes him Eli, and it's also why you never see him peppermint rolling at his team from the bench. He's a cool optimist and a leader, and may be hard to replace.
Agreed. Eli isn't thinking of bailing. He's too much of a competitor, and the ultimate team player. He's thinking of how to fix the situation, and guarantee that this doesn't happen next year.
It's really too bad that so many receivers, and now OL, are out. It makes it difficult to evaluate how Eli is doing in his twilight years.
What's going through his head? I'm sure he's upset that so many team injuries are making it darn near impossible to make a comeback for the second half of the season, but he'll keep on doing his best. Any thoughts of retirement require data input that most fans have very limited access to so I can't even hazard a guess.
and this wins!
"No trade clause? What no trade clause."
The offense, for a lot of games over the last few years, routinely go 3 and out, putting the D right back in the game.
It's been a long time since this offense has routinely taken control when holding a lead. It's typically a lot of 3 and outs, putting the D back on the field. We blame the D a lot for an inability to hold a lead, but when they've been doing the lions share for keeping us in the game, sometimes they're so tuckered out, from the O going 3 and out for a lot of the game, it's hard to get too down on them.
The O has a lot of blame to face up to. With this O it takes a heroic effort on the part of the D to even sniff at the possibility of a W. that's been the case even before all the top half of the WR corp went down.
The offense, for a lot of games over the last few years, routinely go 3 and out, putting the D right back in the game.
It's been a long time since this offense has routinely taken control when holding a lead. It's typically a lot of 3 and outs, putting the D back on the field. We blame the D a lot for an inability to hold a lead, but when they've been doing the lions share for keeping us in the game, sometimes they're so tuckered out, from the O going 3 and out for a lot of the game, it's hard to get too down on them.
The O has a lot of blame to face up to. With this O it takes a heroic effort on the part of the D to even sniff at the possibility of a W. that's been the case even before all the top half of the WR corp went down.
They got couple of turnovers and drops. The numbers sadly don't corroborate your point
One excellent team in 14 years, and that season was ruined by when a moron shot himself after years of being placated by the head coach and front office.
I don’t think it’s in Eli’s DNA to quit. I think he doubles down with the TEs and new WRs and finds a way to get a couple more wins in games this season we have no right winning, including an NFC East win.
Morgan Freeman Narrator:
"I like to think the last thing that went through Eli Manning's head, other then that Defensive Ends helmet, was to wonder, how in the hell did Jerry Reese manage to screw this team up so badly???"
I agree. I think that's exactly the way his mind is working right now. He's as professional as you'll ever find.
However, the rest of the season and the Giants draft position may affect what is going on in the back of his mind. If they end up with a top 3 pick and intend to take a QB, he may really want to be traded. Or it may be in the Giants best interests to trade him (or do so after next season). The nature of the cap and rookie deals no longer allows for a supposed franchise QB to sit for 3 years. If they decide to go that route, they cut ties with him like the Giants did with Collins and then bring in another veteran for a 1 year job like they did with Warner.
Hot wife - check
Healthy kids - check
Money in the bank - check
A shit ton of money in the bank - check
Playing in the NFL and still have my health - check
Trophies in the trophy case - check
Life has been pretty good to Eli Manning so I don't know why we're worried about him. His career may not end the way we all wanted but he has given us a lot to be thankful for.
Denver might be a good place to work ....
More likely, though, I think Eli is a good soldier and just takes things week by week and tries to do his best. It would be a stunner to the organization if Eli came out and blasted the moves this front office has made. If anything could possibly shake up ownership to make a change, Eli going public with his complaints might do it. It would be national news...not just New York.
But he just doesn't strike me as that type of guy...I think he just keeps plowing ahead...going to work and just doesn't get involved in those things. But I would love to know, especially if he talks with his old Oline buddies, what he really thinks. If he didn't want to go to San Diego because of their front office mess and yet stays silent on the current mess in our FO, I truly wonder why.