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NFT: Rangers @ Tampa Bay, 7:30pm ET

NYerInMA : 11/2/2017 5:52 pm
October was a turdburger, let's hope November will be better. That being said, TB is the #1 team in the East currently, and beating them in Tampa is a tall order. Rumor is that Brendan Smith will be benched, meaning that at least one of the useless Kampfer/Holden combo will be playing. Prepare for pain!
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And this thread  
Kyle in NY : 11/8/2017 11:01 pm : link
better live on. Don't mess this up guys!

It is interesting thinking about that Vegas game. Honestly looked like AV knew his time was just about up. Lots changed in a week
RE: Hank is playing..  
bigbluehoya : 11/8/2017 11:42 pm : link
In comment 13683008 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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unreal right now.

Yet another example of how writing people off really should wait until they are actually done and gone.


True, we should probably judge the goalie in the midst of a decent 5 game stretch after 10 games of trash.

Everyone else is a fucking idiot. Great job. Thanks for working the beat.

Better get back out there, though. I think i saw someone around the corner say that Eli wasn’t the bestest-estest-estest.

RE: RE: Not sure I like this  
bigbluehoya : 11/8/2017 11:46 pm : link
In comment 13682968 MetsAreBack said:
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In comment 13682946 Run with 81 said:


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"Continuing" thread over what 4 games now.... I didnt even know it was here so I'll Delete my other thread asking where the game day threads have been.

Yeah I read dont fuck with a 4 game strea....

2 F'in Goals for Vesey so far... Kid wants back on teh Ice full time badly!!!



8 days ago Kyle and I were the only ones posting on Halloween following a 3-9 team staring down the barrel of a 2 goal deficit at home against an expansion team... the entire board ready to trade the whole fucking roster and per Brooksie, AV with about one period left to live.

Now - I'll be damned if we're going to do anything to fuck with this win streak. Silly superstitions are a hell of a lot more fun than what we were discussing a little over a week ago.

And superstitions are what hockey is about anyway - no touching cups or conference trophies, no stepping on the logo in the locker room, etc

In short - Fuck You. I say that as a fourth line grinder with the deepest respects.


I hate when you pay yourself on the fucking back.

But you’re pretty much right. Kyle and you have been doing yeomans’ work.
Thanks Hoya  
MetsAreBack : 11/9/2017 5:20 am : link
Agree.
Woe to the person  
Jay in Toronto : 11/9/2017 6:41 am : link
Who messes withe the ju-ju!!
WTF??  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/9/2017 7:57 am : link
You completely miss the pointy - and probably intentionally:

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True, we should probably judge the goalie in the midst of a decent 5 game stretch after 10 games of trash.

Everyone else is a fucking idiot. Great job. Thanks for working the beat.

Better get back out there, though. I think i saw someone around the corner say that Eli wasn’t the bestest-estest-estest.


It isn't about judging a guy going through a bad streak or a good streak - it is about judging and respecting player's based on their careers. I'm not sure why this has to be pointed out so often to fans who supposedly root for guys and then turn on them whenever possible.

The fact you even call something "10 games of trash" says it all.
It’s not about turning on anyone  
bigbluehoya : 11/9/2017 8:24 am : link
It’s about calling it for what it is.

Nobody is disparaging Hank’s career or what he’s meant to the org. And very few are ready to run him out of town yet.

But the idea that Hank (or any player in any sport) has somehow earned for fans to ignore stretches of shitty play or make excuses on his behalf is bullshit.

He was awful to start the year. He seems to be bouncing back like he always has. And he’ll probably have some moments where he looks like peak Lundqvist. And you’ll probably drop back in then to say “I told you so” and pummel the unspecified Hank-hater straw-man some more.

Or maybe just save your self-appointed hall monitor bullshit for football threads. It isn’t needed.
LOL..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/9/2017 8:37 am : link
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But the idea that Hank (or any player in any sport) has somehow earned for fans to ignore stretches of shitty play or make excuses on his behalf is bullshit


Actually, it isn't bullshit. It's the kind of stuff that makes fans look like complete and utter douchebags. Actually throwing venom at any professional athlete simply because they aren't pleasing you enough is moronic.

I guess pointing that out makes one a hall monitor, but it is much better than being a fucking moron.

I'll enjoy the Rangers stretch of good play, and I'm pretty sure when it ends, there will be a fair number of posters going apeshit again. But of course, the numerous posts calling Hank "done" in the past month are just strawmen......
Hank is here to stay  
MetsAreBack : 11/9/2017 8:40 am : link
just because fans, including me, get frustrated with him sometimes doesnt mean we dont love the guy.

And i wouldn't characterize this 5 game ride as due to incredible, stand on head (I hate that term) goaltending - he was very good last night and against Tampa. OK against Vegas (some highlight reel stops, but 4 still went in) and Columbus. The offense bailed him out against Florida.
Just rewatching Buchnevich’s goal  
bigbluehoya : 11/9/2017 8:59 am : link
That was pretty sick. I was at the game last night and while it looked like a nice play, the angle from where I was sitting didn’t do it any justice.

14 points in 17 games. Unsustainable shot % but also not getting a ton of TOI. Metrics would seem to indicate he deserves more burn at even strength.

But don’t toy with anything right now. 4+ goals in 6 of the last 7.
The thing that's slipped with Hank  
Kyle in NY : 11/9/2017 9:02 am : link
the last two seasons is the consistency. He's still more than capable of coming up with a great performance. But we see more clunkers mixed in with some goals allowed that we used to never see from him.

Last season's playoffs a perfect example of it. Fantastic against Montreal, outplayed maybe the best goalie in the league. Then was average at best against Ottawa in a series we had no business losing.

He carried this team for years though. He's 36, it's understandable that there's a drop. This offense looks capable of being one of the best in the league (3rd in goals now), and that's with really only two above average centers in the lineup currently. Hopefully they can continue to pick up the sack for some questionable defensive zone play
Buchnevich  
Kyle in NY : 11/9/2017 9:08 am : link
has legitimate elite level ability. And he's still just starting to scratch the surface. Thankfully AV has seen the light a bit and is starting to give him more leash.

It's annoying now, but one day it will be legitimately infuriating that he was a healthy scratch for Tanner Glass in the playoffs.
Buchnevich is easily the most talented forward the system has produced  
Greg from LI : 11/9/2017 9:20 am : link
since Kovalev.
RE: Buchnevich is easily the most talented forward the system has produced  
BrettNYG10 : 11/9/2017 11:10 am : link
In comment 13683221 Greg from LI said:
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since Kovalev.


You mean Pavel Brendl.
RE: RE: Buchnevich is easily the most talented forward the system has produced  
YAJ2112 : 11/9/2017 11:12 am : link
In comment 13683460 BrettNYG10 said:
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In comment 13683221 Greg from LI said:


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since Kovalev.



You mean Pavel Brendl.


Manny Malhotra
Why hasn't there been a  
Rover : 11/9/2017 1:23 pm : link
game thread?
Lack of interest?
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arcarsenal : 11/9/2017 1:32 pm : link
If you read through this one, you'd have already known the answer to that one, Einstein.
RE: Why hasn't there been a  
YAJ2112 : 11/9/2017 1:39 pm : link
In comment 13683693 Rover said:
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game thread?
Lack of interest?


There's been game threads, they are just labeled NTT
Saturday's game  
MetsAreBack : 11/9/2017 1:40 pm : link
against Talbot / McDavid should be a lot of fun. Love afternoon games at the Garden too (only reason we actually get, our 2nd of the year, is because the Knicks chose to play at night but whatever).

We're probably due for a letdown game, especially since I'm going... but I'm just thankful to watch meaningful games, across any sport, again for the first time in a year.
What section are you sitting in?  
BrettNYG10 : 11/10/2017 10:31 am : link
I'm thinking of going and want to avoid you.
outstanding point  
MetsAreBack : 11/10/2017 10:36 am : link
i'm in Section 105, Row 18. Stay far away.

Of course, i'll probably notice you in the crowd - the guy sitting by himself wearing alternative black head to toe. Have fun! :)
I'm buying seats in that section now.  
BrettNYG10 : 11/10/2017 10:44 am : link
.
I just got seats  
pjcas18 : 11/10/2017 10:51 am : link
in that section too.
I already got you one, pj.  
BrettNYG10 : 11/10/2017 10:55 am : link
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That's awesome  
MetsAreBack : 11/10/2017 1:33 pm : link
Now I get to hear canadiens talk the entire game when two different teams are on the ice.

You know - kind of like a BBI discussion about generational talents (e.g. Buchnevich) ... and in comes some irrelevant, who gives a shit Canadiens talk about some 3rd line wing prospect.
.  
arcarsenal : 11/10/2017 1:41 pm : link
(Patiently awaiting my invite.... )
RE: That's awesome  
pjcas18 : 11/10/2017 2:24 pm : link
In comment 13685037 MetsAreBack said:
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Now I get to hear canadiens talk the entire game when two different teams are on the ice.

You know - kind of like a BBI discussion about generational talents (e.g. Buchnevich) ... and in comes some irrelevant, who gives a shit Canadiens talk about some 3rd line wing prospect.


No Shea weber, no Jonathan Drouin, no Carey Price. tough to win without your three best players in respective positions.

plus two more overturned goals last night that easily could and should have gone the other way and Canadiens are mired in mediocrity.

hey, you asked, didn't you?

No obviously no one did, PJ  
MetsAreBack : 11/10/2017 3:39 pm : link
More importantly... this got awkward now... with Arc. Let's pretend we're not going tomorrow.


Hey Arc... sorry, not sure what you're talking about. My kid has a soccer game in the afternoon - I'll be there, bummer I can't go, really wanted to catch up. Hey maybe next time?
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arcarsenal : 11/10/2017 5:05 pm : link
I see how it is.

I'll remember this...
Boo is back in  
redbeard : 11/11/2017 12:54 pm : link
Let’s keep the streak going
Nashty!!  
MetsAreBack : 11/11/2017 1:35 pm : link

I mean - I'm at my kids game (don't tell Arc) - pj and Brett wear are you guys? First beer on you.
I'm surprised EDM is struggling so far this year  
MetsAreBack : 11/11/2017 1:54 pm : link
They look so talented out there One of those teams that will win 10 straight at some point I guess
Wtf is Staal doing out there?  
bigbluehoya : 11/11/2017 2:10 pm : link
Puljujarvi just abused him without even making a move.
Awful period for NYR so far  
bigbluehoya : 11/11/2017 2:19 pm : link
EDM absolutely owning the NZ
Would be super to end this Kampfer  
MetsAreBack : 11/11/2017 2:31 pm : link
Over Smith experiment
Rangers look  
XBRONX : 11/11/2017 2:36 pm : link
like shit. Cant get anything going
That was an absolute dime  
bigbluehoya : 11/11/2017 2:38 pm : link
By Shatty. And the Butcher buries it.
What an incredible final 10 minutes of that period  
MetsAreBack : 11/11/2017 2:53 pm : link
Buchnevich - go look at his work about two minutes before his goal (which was all zuccs) keeping it in their zone Amazing talent. I won't think about how frenchy played glass over him last May - just glad he's shining on PP1 now
Has that Nash back in move ever worked in his career?  
MetsAreBack : 11/11/2017 3:23 pm : link
Looks nice thought
Zucc had two chances to ice it  
redbeard : 11/11/2017 3:40 pm : link
Hope that doesn’t come back to bite us
Grabs is an open net specialist  
redbeard : 11/11/2017 3:44 pm : link
Six in a row !!
Nice job finding their game  
bigbluehoya : 11/11/2017 3:53 pm : link
In the last 30 minutes. First half of the second looked dire.
Rough game for MAB.  
BrettNYG10 : 11/11/2017 4:04 pm : link
Lundqvist plays well, Nash nets two, and he can't give up on the season.
Who said  
XBRONX : 11/11/2017 4:16 pm : link
Grabner would not put up the goal total from last year?
.  
arcarsenal : 11/11/2017 4:18 pm : link
What a turnaround.

Tired for 1st in the Metro now.

LFG.
RE: Has that Nash back in move ever worked in his career?  
arcarsenal : 11/11/2017 4:20 pm : link
In comment 13686005 MetsAreBack said:
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Looks nice thought


LOL, I joked earlier to someone that he's shot 0% from the field on that post move in his career.

It never works. The only reason the shot even got on goal this time was because of a deflection off an Oiler stick - the backhand was traveling about 5 feet wide.

Anyway - Nash was fantastic otherwise, so I can't rail on him.

Also, I hope you enjoyed the game... jerk.
One of the better games I've ever seen live  
MetsAreBack : 11/11/2017 4:20 pm : link
We took their best today and looked legit. Responded so well when went down 2-1.

Maybe the 13-5 home/road games is giving us more energy than other teams and I'm still uncomfortable with L3 and Kampfer over smith ... but ever since period 3 against vegas which Kyle and I were responsible for ... its night and day watching this team
Grabner by the way.  
MetsAreBack : 11/11/2017 4:25 pm : link
Now has 4 goals and 4 empty net goals. You didn't notice him for 59 minutes today but he continues to come up big in that final minute
RE: .  
pjcas18 : 11/11/2017 4:51 pm : link
In comment 13686032 arcarsenal said:
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What a turnaround.

Tired for 1st in the Metro now.

LFG.


LOL, tied for 1st in the Metro on November 11.

7th place in the Metro is 2 pts behind with two games in hand. Heck last place is only 5 pts behind with 4 games in hand.

I get scoreboard and standings watching (especially with the slow start, but come on no one really cites hockey standings before the turn of the year at the earliest).

unless that was your usual sarcasm then disregard.

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arcarsenal : 11/11/2017 4:57 pm : link
Today was probably the first time I've even looked at the standings all year - I don't know how buried we were a couple weeks ago, it probably wasn't a huge gap considering how young the season was, but standings or not, I'd say the Rangers have had a hell of a turnaround after their horrendous start.

It looks like a completely different team.

We were at a breaking point where one more loss probably got the coach canned. People were ready to start trading assets and closing the door on the Hank era.

I don't really care that much about being tied for 1st in the division right now considering how clustered it is - just didn't see this team waking up like this.

Only team in the NHL that has won 6 straight in this young season.
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