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NFT: Rangers @ Tampa Bay, 7:30pm ET

NYerInMA : 11/2/2017 5:52 pm
October was a turdburger, let's hope November will be better. That being said, TB is the #1 team in the East currently, and beating them in Tampa is a tall order. Rumor is that Brendan Smith will be benched, meaning that at least one of the useless Kampfer/Holden combo will be playing. Prepare for pain!
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Hey, maybe if they stopped running an AHL defenseman out every night  
Greg from LI : 11/17/2017 10:40 pm : link
Just a thought
RE: Hey, maybe if they stopped running an AHL defenseman out every night  
MetsAreBack : 11/17/2017 10:43 pm : link
In comment 13695450 Greg from LI said:
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Just a thought



They started smith over kampfen tonight and smith was on the ice for the one even strength goal.
In fairness to Smith  
MetsAreBack : 11/17/2017 11:18 pm : link
He had probably one of our 2-3 quality shots tonight - Bob stoned him
Can criticize effort if you want  
pjcas18 : 11/18/2017 11:12 am : link
but that was one of the best goalie games I've seen all year. Bob is a ridiculous regular season goalie - maybe the best in the league right now. some of his saves were unreal and Hank kept the Rangers in the game with a vintage Hank performance.

For the Rangers the PP was the problem if you ask me, it seemed like CBJ had better SH quality opportunities than the Rangers did on the PP.

I've read "American" Thanksgiving is a measuring point for NHL GM's, and if you're not in striking distance of a PO spot changes get made. Luckily for the Rangers other than TB no one is dominating in the East and it may not take 95 points (or .600 hockey the rest of the way) to make the playoffs.
RE: Can criticize effort if you want  
baadbill : 11/18/2017 11:20 am : link
In comment 13695681 pjcas18 said:
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but that was one of the best goalie games I've seen all year. ...



Just before the first goal, I was thinking what a great game it was ... play had opened up and both teams were getting chances and there were wild saves at both ends ...

But - what I noticed more than anything else - was that the Rangers would get one shot and Columbus would quickly take possession ... Columbus played terrific defense and the Rangers had little sustained puck possession. I was really impressed with Columbus' game.

Having said that, it doesn't change the fact that the Rangers are now approaching game 3 of a new streak.
RE: RE: Can criticize effort if you want  
pjcas18 : 11/18/2017 4:34 pm : link
In comment 13695690 baadbill said:
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In comment 13695681 pjcas18 said:


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but that was one of the best goalie games I've seen all year. ...





Just before the first goal, I was thinking what a great game it was ... play had opened up and both teams were getting chances and there were wild saves at both ends ...

But - what I noticed more than anything else - was that the Rangers would get one shot and Columbus would quickly take possession ... Columbus played terrific defense and the Rangers had little sustained puck possession. I was really impressed with Columbus' game.

Having said that, it doesn't change the fact that the Rangers are now approaching game 3 of a new streak.


that was true against Werenski and Jones, which may be the best D pair in the league (both solid 2 way D-men and actually beyond solid, stars), but against Johnson and Carlsson (?) and Murray and Nutivarra I thought the Rangers were able to forecheck better.

as a hockey fan Zach Werenski is fun to watch.
Duclair  
B in ALB : 11/18/2017 10:59 pm : link
With a sweet hat trick tonight against Ottawa.
And islanders kicked ass again tonight.  
MetsAreBack : 11/18/2017 11:14 pm : link
They've whooped sf Louis and Tampa on the road on the past 7 days. This division is stacked.

Rangers are middling ... and that's not going to cut it in the metro.

We need a big performance from B tomorrow night. Despite the feel good 6 game stretch, we are still at the bottom of this juggernaut division with the flyers on a points per game basis.
Whelp fuck it  
B in ALB : 11/18/2017 11:17 pm : link
I'll give it a go tomorrow night.

Enough is enough.
Maybe I missed Bs game thread  
MetsAreBack : 11/19/2017 9:14 pm : link
Can't find it. Don't understand this call on Smith. A little.
RE: Maybe I missed Bs game thread  
bigbluehoya : 11/19/2017 9:19 pm : link
In comment 13698371 MetsAreBack said:
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Can't find it. Don't understand this call on Smith. A little.


Clearly a reactionary call based on how awful the result looked.

I think I’m with Rosen on this one; I could live w a penalty on that, but that isn’t a major/misconduct.
I decided against it tonight  
B in ALB : 11/19/2017 9:25 pm : link
That wasn't even a penalty, let alone a GMC. Bullshit call as a result of Russian Whatsisname getting shouldered like a bitch.
Nice to get that 3rd  
Stufftherun : 11/19/2017 9:32 pm : link
one early on with their extra skater and 2:30 left. Good bounce back effort.
I missed a good chunk  
bigbluehoya : 11/19/2017 9:36 pm : link
Of the first, but that’s as solid of an all-around effort as I’ve seen from NYR this season.

Just the way you want it — Hank didn’t get a ton of work but looked sharp when he had to
What was the call on Smith?  
baadbill : 11/19/2017 10:44 pm : link
And while clearly not a 5 minute major, why wouldn’t that have been a legitimate interference call?
McDonaugh has already been ruled out tomorrow night  
MetsAreBack : 11/21/2017 1:07 pm : link
with an ab strain. So we get to look forward to more Kampfer traffic cone highlights.

The fact that they ruled him out already can't be good.
McDonagh's probably been hurt all season long.  
BrettNYG10 : 11/21/2017 2:28 pm : link
He's taken a ton of maintenance days, doesn't look great,etc.
Will take up 3-1 after two without our Captain  
MetsAreBack : 11/22/2017 8:44 pm : link
On the road against a tough up and coming team.

Man getting the next goal feels important though - game has the feel of last year where we took advantage of a few opportunities in a game and held onto our seats the rest of the night
Stretching the lead  
Stufftherun : 11/22/2017 9:06 pm : link
to 3 was huge! The PK has been very goid but wish they would stop tempting fate and just stay out of the box
Nice work by that line!  
Stufftherun : 11/22/2017 9:09 pm : link
that should just about do it.
What a pass by Kampfer and  
Stufftherun : 11/22/2017 9:21 pm : link
one timer by Quickie!
Love this third period  
MetsAreBack : 11/22/2017 9:27 pm : link
A rare easy win - impressive performance tonight by the blue shirts. Nice way to kick off the weekend
Hi Jints!  
MetsAreBack : 11/22/2017 9:36 pm : link
Does he still post here? I can't keep track with all the bannings and 'personal decisions'
Skinner not scoring  
Stufftherun : 11/22/2017 9:36 pm : link
is noteworthy. Nice road effort.
RE: Love this third period  
dpinzow : 11/22/2017 10:12 pm : link
In comment 13701773 MetsAreBack said:
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A rare easy win - impressive performance tonight by the blue shirts. Nice way to kick off the weekend


8 wins out of 10 for the blueshirts...should start moving up the standings soon
Do the Rangers not get separate game threads anymore on BBI?  
BestFeature : 11/23/2017 11:28 am : link
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RE: Do the Rangers not get separate game threads anymore on BBI?  
section125 : 11/23/2017 12:00 pm : link
In comment 13702048 BestFeature said:
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I was about to say the same thing...either that or they play Tampa 80 games per year.
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arcarsenal : 11/23/2017 12:25 pm : link
Things turned around when we stuck to this thread - so we're staying here for the long-haul. Or at least until we hit a real rut.

Happy Thanksgiving, boys! #LGR

Suck it, Jints.
Was going to start a new thread  
B in ALB : 11/23/2017 12:28 pm : link
after the loss the other night, but f that noise. Winning games, this thread stays.
With McDonagh in and these forward lines this is a better team than...  
BestFeature : 11/23/2017 3:26 pm : link
...last year. Better D, better Lundqvist, better Mika, Buch, and Hayes. Worse Kreider and worse depth up front, but with Miller at center the center depth isn't laughable.
Was talking Rangers with a huge fan yesterday who claimed coaching,  
baadbill : 11/24/2017 12:06 pm : link
not talent, was the issue for the horrible start.

I asked him which Rangers were in the top 50 players in the NHL ... answer = none.

I asked him if he could keep only 5 players from the current roster moving forward, he immediately named Skjei, Buch, Zib and Miller without any hesitation ... then he paused for an obvious internal debate and finally went with Kreider.

At the conclusion of the exercise ... I think I made my point that the talent level of the NYR isn’t really anything to write home about ... and left me feeling irritated when I had been excited after Wed 6-1 shellacking ... so I thought I’d come here and spread the joy.

Happy Thanksgiving.
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BrettNYG10 : 11/24/2017 12:29 pm : link
You're underrating the quality of the Rangers depth.

McDonagh is also a top 50 player when healthy. Zibanejad might be there now. I think Lundqvist is still there but I'm a bit biased.

This has enough talent to be a playoff team at a minimum and maybe even a serious contender. I absolutely think coaching was partly, maybe even mostly, to blame for the slow start - his teams have historically been slow starters and the outlier year was because Lundqvist was incredible.

I'll give him credit for the turnaround as well.
Depth...  
baadbill : 11/24/2017 12:48 pm : link
Brett, Zib might turn out to be top 50 but right now that’s more projection than demonstrative ... neither McD or Hank top 50 right now ... my eyes tell me they’ve been one (if not the) best teams in hockey for the life of this thread ... but my brain can’t explain to me why or how... lol
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BrettNYG10 : 11/24/2017 1:04 pm : link
Yeah, I agree with that, although Lundqvist's been pretty good the past ten games or so.

I think the Rangers have five guys who can play on an average team's first line (Zucc/Buch/Zibanejad/Nash/Kreider, and maybe even Miller). Not elite players or anything, but that sort of depth is really valuable. With the defense looking better, I think the team can make noise in the playoffs if this continues.
There are 31 teams in the NHL  
pjcas18 : 11/24/2017 1:16 pm : link
whether the Rangers do or don't have any top 50 players is certainly debatable but representative of absolutely nothing.

The Stars have several the Canadiens have a few, the Sabres, Coyotes, Wild, all have at least one and other poor (in the standings) teams do too.

The Rangers of the Lundqvist/AV era have always been about forward depth, system, and their goalie (IMO). If they don't have any top 50 players, so what, almost none of their top 9/top 6 would be below 150/200 in a ranked list.

and that model has generated success (to an extent).

The Canadiens have 3 top 50 players (per the latest NHL network list which is one data point) and there are very few teams in the league who would trade rosters with the Canadiens right now (or places in the standings).

PJ  
baadbill : 11/24/2017 1:35 pm : link
During my conversation yesterday with my brother-in-law, I threw out top 50 without much thought ... my point was not so much superstar talent but elite talent ... in other words, maybe I’d be more interested in comparing levels of top 100 (maybe even 125) talent/depth than top 25 level talent.

RE: PJ  
pjcas18 : 11/24/2017 1:42 pm : link
In comment 13703951 baadbill said:
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During my conversation yesterday with my brother-in-law, I threw out top 50 without much thought ... my point was not so much superstar talent but elite talent ... in other words, maybe I’d be more interested in comparing levels of top 100 (maybe even 125) talent/depth than top 25 level talent.

Agree, they may not have elite talent (today), but top 9 forward depth, there is probably no one in their league.

and that's how they've won in the past.

forward depth, system, and goalie.

and some people (me) argue their system prevents certain players from being considered elite (which is another topic).
These are so ugly they remind me of pj.  
BrettNYG10 : 11/24/2017 2:25 pm : link
Well at least we get to wear the blue  
MetsAreBack : 11/24/2017 5:50 pm : link
And at Citi field for a 'road' game. Lol. I love these small market teams that give up their home games against us just for extra gate revenues (see devils and islanders stadium series!)
Another concern this year...  
baadbill : 11/24/2017 7:20 pm : link
How many reg season games will Hank have to start this season ... and how will that affect him in the playoffs?
They have to make the playoffs first  
MetsAreBack : 11/24/2017 7:51 pm : link
It's a tough division and conference.

Thank you for a brilliant first from 30. Rest of team - particularly Brendon Smith - need to wake the fuck up. Maybe Smith wants to go back into hibernation for another couple weeks? What a pathetic display.

This teams inconsistency night to night is maddening
The good news is their inconsistency is often period by period  
baadbill : 11/24/2017 7:55 pm : link
and they went into the locker room 0-0.
RE: These are so ugly they remind me of pj.  
pjcas18 : 11/24/2017 7:57 pm : link
In comment 13703991 BrettNYG10 said:
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Canadiens centennial classic jerseys are pretty classy looking and remind me of me.

agree rangers jerseys are hideous.

What is Howard's save percentage in this building?  
MetsAreBack : 11/24/2017 8:25 pm : link
Jesus he loves playing here
RE: RE: These are so ugly they remind me of pj.  
BrettNYG10 : 11/24/2017 8:28 pm : link
In comment 13704307 pjcas18 said:
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Canadiens centennial classic jerseys are pretty classy looking and remind me of me.

agree rangers jerseys are hideous.



Yeah, those are great.
Jesus Christ.  
bigbluehoya : 11/24/2017 8:29 pm : link
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Rangers are just snake-bit offensively tonight  
NYerInMA : 11/24/2017 8:40 pm : link
Plenty of golden opportunities with nothing to show for it. At least Henrik is sharp.
Holy shit how drunk and fat did this team get yesterday?  
MetsAreBack : 11/24/2017 9:20 pm : link
They are almost at 40 shots on our net lots high quality with 12
Minutes left.

Howard has been great for them but this is an unacceptable effort. Jesus
This Thread Delivers  
MetsAreBack : 11/24/2017 9:51 pm : link
Again.
Great game by Lundqvist  
baadbill : 11/24/2017 9:55 pm : link
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