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Anando : 11/3/2017 10:42 am
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The Giants won’t have much work to do to turn in an inactive list Sunday against the Rams.

They’ve already declared six players out for this week’s game, including right tackle Justin Pugh (back) and center Weston Richburg (concussion).

Also out are linebackers Jonathan Casillas and BJ Goodson, and defensive ends Olivier Vernon and Kerry Wynn.

Cornerback Donte Deayon is questionable with an ankle injury, but being though injury depleted has left the Giants that way as a whole.


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Unreal  
BigBlueShock : 11/3/2017 10:45 am : link
It's nice to see they got healthy during the bye week
What's Vernon's issue?  
jcn56 : 11/3/2017 10:46 am : link
I'll admit, this season has been such a bummer I haven't been paying close enough attention to the injury list, but I thought he went out three weeks ago with an ankle injury that was supposedly day to day?
So much for all the new age training techniques to reduce  
Britt in VA : 11/3/2017 10:47 am : link
injuries.
Eric warned about this  
TommytheElephant : 11/3/2017 10:47 am : link
And it’s happening

If we were 6-1 , would the injury report be different?
RE: What's Vernon's issue?  
section125 : 11/3/2017 10:48 am : link
In comment 13674015 jcn56 said:
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I'll admit, this season has been such a bummer I haven't been paying close enough attention to the injury list, but I thought he went out three weeks ago with an ankle injury that was supposedly day to day?


Maybe high ankle?
At 1-6, this is what happens  
Sean : 11/3/2017 10:49 am : link
.
Webb  
AcidTest : 11/3/2017 10:50 am : link
is also ruled out.
RE: Eric warned about this  
GiantsRage2007 : 11/3/2017 10:54 am : link
In comment 13674018 TommytheElephant said:
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And it’s happening

If we were 6-1 , would the injury report be different?


Bingo
My Nephew Huge Dolphins fan  
Bluesbreaker : 11/3/2017 10:57 am : link
He told me your gonna be very disappointment with Vernon .
Now this kid is no dummy he is the environmental engineer
for BAE .
Right now it's a toss up between Vernon and JPP there not exactly the NY sack exchange . How much money do we have invested in these two ?
losing season and this is what happens  
Giants86 : 11/3/2017 10:58 am : link
and to think we have 9 games to go. What a nightmare.
Vernon still out even after the bye week?  
Rflairr : 11/3/2017 11:03 am : link
🤔
LOL.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/3/2017 11:05 am : link
This team is mailing it in.
Wasn't Vernon's problem  
Gman11 : 11/3/2017 11:05 am : link
that he got kicked in the ankle? That must have been some kick!
RE: What's Vernon's issue?  
BigBlueinChicago : 11/3/2017 11:06 am : link
In comment 13674015 jcn56 said:
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I'll admit, this season has been such a bummer I haven't been paying close enough attention to the injury list, but I thought he went out three weeks ago with an ankle injury that was supposedly day to day?


Doubtful he plays another game this season.

With each passing week. With each loss and with all this drama, shutting it down is looking more and more likely.
Disastrous contract year  
Powerclean765 : 11/3/2017 11:13 am : link
for Richburg. This makes 3 bad seasons out of 4. He will be lucky to get a decent "prove it" deal at this point and Brett Jones is also showing he's better.

Pugh's has been slightly less disastrous - but he's failed to shake the injury prone label. He likes to compare himself to Zeitler - but Zeitler's a better G than Pugh is a G or T, and he doesn't miss games.
Did Richburg's  
GeneInCal : 11/3/2017 11:23 am : link
brain fall on the turf? Longest concussion inactivity I've ever seen.
I have seen no dropoff at all when Jones is in for Richburg  
PatersonPlank : 11/3/2017 11:25 am : link
so I don't consider that a problem unless Jones gets hurt. Pugh hurts though, thank god we have the best RT in football backing him up.

Meanwhile Flower, like the energizer bunny, just keeps going. Never gets hurt, plays through all minor injuries, and is improving weekly. Good for him.
RE: Did Richburg's  
jcn56 : 11/3/2017 11:26 am : link
In comment 13674077 GeneInCal said:
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brain fall on the turf? Longest concussion inactivity I've ever seen.


That's not entirely fair - he's been out what, a month? That might have been a long time 10 years ago, but not so much now.
Concussion protocol doesn't change.....  
njm : 11/3/2017 11:27 am : link
whether you're 1-6 or 6-1.
RE: I have seen no dropoff at all when Jones is in for Richburg  
AcidTest : 11/3/2017 11:30 am : link
In comment 13674083 PatersonPlank said:
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so I don't consider that a problem unless Jones gets hurt. Pugh hurts though, thank god we have the best RT in football backing him up.

Meanwhile Flower, like the energizer bunny, just keeps going. Never gets hurt, plays through all minor injuries, and is improving weekly. Good for him.


Flowers has quietly played much better for many weeks. His grit and toughness were never questioned. I'm still not sure he wouldn't be better as a guard, but there is no question he's been much improved.
Cant  
Fish : 11/3/2017 11:30 am : link
Stand Pugh, richburg.
Oates, Godfrey, benson, O’Hara, dielhl, seubert to name a few always manned up.
Richburg suffered brain trauma.  
Mr. Bungle : 11/3/2017 11:33 am : link
It's all well and good that some of you yahoos might insist he "man up" and get out there for your entertainment. But, fortunately, wiser and more responsible people are making these decisions.
Love Pugh  
Toth029 : 11/3/2017 11:35 am : link
And want him to re-sign but goddam he misses games every year.
Never should have signed Vernon  
ghost718 : 11/3/2017 11:38 am : link
Future PFF Hall OF Famer...yeah,but overrated with a hired gun mentality.
In a way, Eric predicted all of this...  
M.S. : 11/3/2017 11:40 am : link

...in one of his write-ups.


Oh boy  
Bluesbreaker : 11/3/2017 11:42 am : link
Rams have 23 sacks coming in Conner Barwin must be licking his chops with Brockers and Donald in the middle .
Eli might want to go with the flack jacket this week .
RE: Richburg suffered brain trauma.  
AcidTest : 11/3/2017 11:43 am : link
In comment 13674096 Mr. Bungle said:
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It's all well and good that some of you yahoos might insist he "man up" and get out there for your entertainment. But, fortunately, wiser and more responsible people are making these decisions.


Agreed.
RE: LOL.  
micky : 11/3/2017 11:46 am : link
In comment 13674050 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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This team is mailing it in.


Banks was just on and thinks otherwise..says they are playing to win and have a run at playoffs
RE: RE: LOL.  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/3/2017 11:50 am : link
In comment 13674124 micky said:
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In comment 13674050 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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This team is mailing it in.



Banks was just on and thinks otherwise..says they are playing to win and have a run at playoffs


He's on another planet, then.

And that Vernon contract is looking worse and worse every week.
Mailing it in?  
RinR : 11/3/2017 11:52 am : link
So you're saying that some of these guys are healthy or could actually play but because we are 1-6 they are faking their injuries to not play. Got it.
not faking, that's a bit extreme  
Rocky369 : 11/3/2017 12:05 pm : link
but playing as if the games weighed the same as preseason versus playoff? absolutely.
RE: Wasn't Vernon's problem  
jvm52106 : 11/3/2017 12:05 pm : link
In comment 13674051 Gman11 said:
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that he got kicked in the ankle? That must have been some kick!


You ever been kicked in the head with an Iron Boot? No, of course not. That never happens. Forget I said anything..
Not everybody is mailing  
jvm52106 : 11/3/2017 12:09 pm : link
it in as some of these guys are getting their one shot to show that they belong in the league. So that part is true. BUT, Jenkins, DRC and a few others are showing a severe lack of team focus and the injuries seem to be keeping guys out longer than they would if we were winning.

Whatever, it is what it is at this point.


Good to see Pugh keeping his injury streak.  
Diver_Down : 11/3/2017 12:26 pm : link
He has missed games every single year. Thank goodness that we had the bye last week. If he is signed this off-season, I would hope the Giants protect themselves by limiting his compensation to being active on gameday.
Love how some of you are so quick  
gmen9892 : 11/3/2017 12:26 pm : link
To turn on guys like OV. Dude was a stud for us last year and a main reason why this defense was so good. Misses 4 games this year and now hes overrated and has a terrible contract. Hilarious.
Maybe Bluesbreaker should let his nephew write his posts  
Ivan15 : 11/3/2017 12:43 pm : link
At least he may know something about punctuation.
I imagine  
ryanmkeane : 11/3/2017 12:43 pm : link
Richburg is playing it safe with the concussion due to the contract year.
When it comes to the injury report  
BigBlueinChicago : 11/3/2017 12:47 pm : link
I'll never forget 2011.

If you remember, the Giants had many guys hurt during the season. All of a sudden going into Week 17 with a chance to make the playoffs, I remember Coughlin reading off the injury report and he reported NO injuries to any player and all were participating.

We would after the season find out what injuries guys were really playing with. But during the big run, none of the injuries were mentioned.

But when you are losing...suddenly that ankle feels a little extra sore. That knee injury needs an extra week. And so on.

Why is is that when teams are going through losing seasons (particularly late in the season), their injury reports seem to far exceed those of winning teams? We've gone through this.

It may be a tough charge to say guys are "mailing it in." But since we've seen how the "injury game" seems to work in the NFL, it is not completely outrageous to make the claim some guys in big losing years would rather protect themselves then return to the field for this sinking ship.
RE: RE: What's Vernon's issue?  
Gmen8691 : 11/3/2017 12:50 pm : link
In comment 13674020 section125 said:
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In comment 13674015 jcn56 said:


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I'll admit, this season has been such a bummer I haven't been paying close enough attention to the injury list, but I thought he went out three weeks ago with an ankle injury that was supposedly day to day?



Maybe high ankle?

OV hurt his ankle vs the Eagles and when he probably should've stayed out the game from there he attempt to get back out there on the field and most likely injured even further.
.  
arcarsenal : 11/3/2017 1:14 pm : link
This is typical of a losing season. If the team were 5-2 right now instead of 1-6, you'd probably be able to cut that list in half.
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Danny Kanell : 11/3/2017 1:28 pm : link
Looking forward to another fun filled Sunday afternoon Giant game.
Add in Jenkins  
pjcas18 : 11/3/2017 1:29 pm : link
and the inactive list wrote itself.

If others can't go, Giants may need PS help.
When did Pugh get hurt?  
Matt M. : 11/3/2017 1:31 pm : link
Given his injury history, I am leaning more and more to not re-signing him. I also wouldn't re-sign Richburg.
And, what's Goodson's issue?  
Matt M. : 11/3/2017 1:31 pm : link
Same injury from Week 1?
So the OL is  
est1986 : 11/3/2017 1:38 pm : link
Flowers-Jerry-Jones-Fluker-Hart with Wheeler as the only other option if any one of those guys goes down? Or am I missing someone? What if two guys go down? And are they trying to get Eli killed? No OL, No receivers, and no run game... great. We might keep pace with SF and CLE after all.
RE: So the OL is  
Reb8thVA : 11/3/2017 2:24 pm : link
In comment 13674363 est1986 said:
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Flowers-Jerry-Jones-Fluker-Hart with Wheeler as the only other option if any one of those guys goes down? Or am I missing someone? What if two guys go down? And are they trying to get Eli killed? No OL, No receivers, and no run game... great. We might keep pace with SF and CLE after all.


They got Ian Allen on speed dial!
.  
arcarsenal : 11/3/2017 2:34 pm : link
Is Bob Whitfield available?
RE: Good to see Pugh keeping his injury streak.  
BillKo : 11/3/2017 2:52 pm : link
In comment 13674220 Diver_Down said:
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He has missed games every single year. Thank goodness that we had the bye last week. If he is signed this off-season, I would hope the Giants protect themselves by limiting his compensation to being active on gameday.


This is a real issue.....is he resignable?

The guy is nearly guaranteed to miss games every single year. And this is in a contract year.
RE: RE: Good to see Pugh keeping his injury streak.  
Diver_Down : 11/3/2017 3:11 pm : link
In comment 13674501 BillKo said:
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In comment 13674220 Diver_Down said:


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He has missed games every single year. Thank goodness that we had the bye last week. If he is signed this off-season, I would hope the Giants protect themselves by limiting his compensation to being active on gameday.



This is a real issue.....is he resignable?

The guy is nearly guaranteed to miss games every single year. And this is in a contract year.


I wouldn't resign him, but with the state of the OL, whomever is the GM may have to. Whatever amount he signs for, you have to calculate what the backup makes and consider that the total salary to fill one position. He has only played 16 games his rookie year. This is now a 2 week injury. I wouldn't be surprised to see him milk it for another week.
RE: So the OL is  
Matt M. : 11/3/2017 3:19 pm : link
In comment 13674363 est1986 said:
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Flowers-Jerry-Jones-Fluker-Hart with Wheeler as the only other option if any one of those guys goes down? Or am I missing someone? What if two guys go down? And are they trying to get Eli killed? No OL, No receivers, and no run game... great. We might keep pace with SF and CLE after all.
Halapio is also on reserve.
So you come out of a bye week  
joeinpa : 11/3/2017 3:42 pm : link
More banged up than before and some don t think the losing is a factor.

These guys might care about winning, but they are not going to risk their careers pushing the envelope on injuries at 1-6.

Can t blame them.

LA Rams reporting  
BigBlueinChicago : 11/3/2017 4:08 pm : link
ZERO injuries this week on their injury report.
Concussion protocol is Separate - I don’t disagree there  
TommytheElephant : 11/3/2017 4:12 pm : link
And it’s possible I am wrong and if we were 6-1 we’d have the same injury list.
But is it possible the injury list MIGHT be shorter at 6-1? Possible, no?
We can do better!  
old man : 11/3/2017 4:21 pm : link
Put Deayon on the list. And I'm sure there are 3 others banged up.
Save all the injured possible for the Suck-4-1 playoffs.
RE: Eric warned about this  
annexOPR : 11/3/2017 5:35 pm : link
In comment 13674018 TommytheElephant said:
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And it’s happening

If we were 6-1 , would the injury report be different?


players have checked out ... it's quite obvious. quite frankly, i "dislike" this team.

Enough about Pugh and Ritchburg  
Chris L. : 11/3/2017 6:21 pm : link
they both are aweful and were wasted picks. I know there are a bunch of Pugh defenders who won't give up the fight but he is constantly injured and when he plays he couldn't move my grandmother off the line of scrimmage. Two high draft picks in the middle of our line and since they have been here we can't pick up a third and one. Now we don't even try we throw the ball instead. Give whatever money you planned on giving them if they have played well and invest in OL free agents from other teams. Don't give either of these two guys a penny. Both incredibly overated.
Nobody is "sucking it up" at 1-6  
Vanzetti : 11/3/2017 8:43 pm : link
Plus, it is always the same guys who are injured: Vernon, Pugh, Behre and Goodson




RE: So you come out of a bye week  
EricJ : 11/3/2017 9:00 pm : link
In comment 13674591 joeinpa said:
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More banged up than before and some don t think the losing is a factor.

These guys might care about winning, but they are not going to risk their careers pushing the envelope on injuries at 1-6.

Can t blame them.


I may be wrong, but I dont think they have to report the injuries during the bye week. So, these guys could have been hurt but now just a few days before the game they are required to report it. just a thought...
in a dumpster fire season  
old man : 11/3/2017 9:31 pm : link
Why rush ANYBODY back?

2-6 is still a big SUCK with 3 division games and an additional 3 toplevel opponents left on the back half.

Keep Eli alive...play ' the bodies'....let the auditions begin!

I'm not advocating Suck4...or going thru motions...but why make a current injury even worse?
Let's not  
bluepepper : 11/4/2017 10:05 am : link
start questioning guys injuries. Vernon for one played a good chunk of last year with a badly injured hand. Zero reason to think he's suddenly turned soft.



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