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kelsto811 : 11/6/2017 8:08 pm
I did do a quick search and didn't see if this was mentioned...I'm sure someone will let me know if it was, and I'll delete if so.

I listened to him on the Fan today and man he just really seemed bothered by the thought of him being replaced.

Obviously it isn't something he is going to be happy about, but I found it hard to listen to and not feel bad for Eli. He just seemed to have a hard time finding his words (not the usual).

ďI want to be out there for my teammates, and part of that is to be there each and every week for your team and to fight through little injuries and (being) banged up and just show that youíre ready to go,Ē Manning said when asked about the possibility of the streak coming to an end. ďObviously, if the organization ever wants to go a different route and play someone else, then thatís different. Itís not about one personís starting streak continuing if youíve got to do whatís best for the team and whatís best for this organization. Hopefully, they think I give us the best chance to win. And if they donít believe that, youíve got to do what youíve got to do.Ē

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I thought he came across as  
montanagiant : 11/6/2017 8:18 pm : link
Being a team player and not wanting to throw gas on an already raging fire but there did seem to be a bit of tension around that question, as if this issue has more legs then we think
You've got to do.....  
old man : 11/6/2017 8:18 pm : link
Sounds like he would ask for trade or release.
Maybe I'm just misinterpreting.
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yankees78 : 11/6/2017 8:22 pm : link
what a fucking mess
Yeah  
Sneakers O'toole : 11/6/2017 8:27 pm : link
Eli has always had a way of not really saying much in the media, and i mean that in a good way. I hate watching this right now unfold

Eli deserves better. Im ok with playing webb if thats the call but Mcadoo and all his crap in the press when it comes to eli bugs the hell out of me
If McAdoo benches Eli  
BillT : 11/6/2017 8:55 pm : link
Or even takes him out of a game that's still in doubt. He should be fired on the spot. And I mean fired right on the sideline. Eli deserves better than to have this 2nd year failure decide his career.
I want to see Eli go to a team like Denver  
Jay on the Island : 11/6/2017 9:03 pm : link
or Jacksonville and win another championship. He doesn't deserve to be apart of this embarrassment.
RE: You've got to do.....  
Jay on the Island : 11/6/2017 9:04 pm : link
In comment 13679950 old man said:
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Sounds like he would ask for trade or release.
Maybe I'm just misinterpreting.

No he was saying that if they want him gone he would understand.
Total Class  
Rjanyg : 11/6/2017 9:38 pm : link
I really hope that all Giants fans realize how good we have had it with number 10 being our QB. This guy won't throw his coach under the bus even though McAdoo has done it a few times to Eli.

Eli is a class act and deserves to be out there on Sundays
Guess anything can happen ?  
TMS : 11/6/2017 10:04 pm : link
They dumped TC who brought them two SBs and was the best, if not the only FB mind in the organization. They kept Reese and his incompetent crew till we are where we are now. So now ELI will get his too.
Other players on the Giant's  
uconngiant : 11/6/2017 11:01 pm : link
Need to follow Eli Manning's way of handling things. Too many are pointing fingers instead of looking within.

Eli deserves better as do others
Bill T  
Hilary : 11/7/2017 5:41 am : link
Eli is an all time great giant and deserves to start every game to keep his streak intact.Giving Webb some time to show what he can or can't do is not a a sign of disrespect to Eli. Sports teams need to evaluate all of the players on their roster. Players like Webb, Tavares King, and Chad Wheeler need to have some time on the field to show what they can do. The Giants will have a top 3 pick in the draft.They have to decide if the will take a QB, an offensive lineman, the best defender in the draft or trade down for multiple picks.
The backup Qb always looks like the best option  
spike : 11/7/2017 6:00 am : link
Holding a clipboard.

Webb wont do any better than Eli.
RE: The backup Qb always looks like the best option  
section125 : 11/7/2017 6:20 am : link
In comment 13680232 spike said:
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Holding a clipboard.

Webb wont do any better than Eli.


How many open deep passes has Eli missed the last few weeks, or even this year. He missed Shepard and then King twice on back o back plays at the end of the 1st have.

Can Webb do better than Eli, right now? No, or he'd be in there right now.
Do they need to see what they have in Webb? Depends on if he is ready to play, but it might be wise to see what he can do.
Outside  
Fish : 11/7/2017 7:59 am : link
Of Phil Simms v Hostetler issue where Simms got cut, it was time. In this case itís not time for Eli. Eli can win games if he had better teams in front of him.
If ownership approves of sitting Eli then the once proud franchise has changed significantly. Eli can win, why kick him to curb. Again itís all because of Reese and Macadoo and Now Eli is the fall guy. Wow.
Eli should start  
DavidinBMNY : 11/7/2017 8:03 am : link
Webb should play the second 1/2 in a blowout

If Webb shows he's ready, doubtful, then he can earn a start.

For all Manning's issues, he is not the reason they are terrible.

It all comes to the orchestration of the roster and bad decision making from the top.

I can't believe how much  
Powerclean765 : 11/7/2017 8:19 am : link
I dislike McAdoo. I just never bought into him. I suggested he was Ray Handley 2 before we hired him as HC. His lack of people skills & his horrid scheme have been on full display 4 years.

Someone brought it up yesterday and it's very true (and odd): when do you see McAdoo talking to anyone, ever? On the sidelines he's just staring off into space with a blank look. He's never coaching anyone up, having a dialogue, etc. Very strange.

I also remember a clip of McAdoo addressing the team at a meeting after he replaced Coughlin. Monotone, no personality, a walking cliche. I can't imagine he makes a real connection with anyone. I'll bet there were more than a few snickers when he showed up with an 18-year old's haircut and Jordan's.

Sometimes it's hard to believe how incompetent someone is, who rises to this level. He had NO BUSINESS even being the Offensive Coordinator here and he somehow became Head Coach. Unreal.

IMO - he will go back to being a position coach when we relieve him of his duties. I can't imagine anyone would be stupid enough to even give him an OC job. He can't handle it, and he's proven that about as conclusively as possible on the biggest stage.
Anyone who benches Eli for the great Geno Smith needs to be fired  
PatersonPlank : 11/7/2017 8:38 am : link
Ditto for starting Webb, although I would start giving Webb the 4th quarter mop-up role to see what he can do. I'd put Geno on the PS, he's just taking up space at this point.
RE: Eli should start  
HomerJones45 : 11/7/2017 9:22 am : link
In comment 13680281 DavidinBMNY said:
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Webb should play the second 1/2 in a blowout

If Webb shows he's ready, doubtful, then he can earn a start.

For all Manning's issues, he is not the reason they are terrible.

It all comes to the orchestration of the roster and bad decision making from the top.
Webb won't do shit and they already know "what they have"- a Nassib-like development project who will need to be on a roster for a couple of years before maybe he is ready to be a backup.
Eli's saying all the right things  
Bramton1 : 11/7/2017 9:38 am : link
But you can tell by the words he's choosing that he's pissed about it.
RE: Yeah  
Section331 : 11/7/2017 9:45 am : link
In comment 13679969 Sneakers O'toole said:
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Eli deserves better. Im ok with playing webb if thats the call but Mcadoo and all his crap in the press when it comes to eli bugs the hell out of me


Completely agree. I think it is time to move on. The Giants are in full rebuild mode, and you don't do that with a declining, soon-to-be 37 year old QB. I thought all along that Eli and McAdoo had an agreement that would allow him to criticize Eli to take the heat off of the younger guys, but it's pretty clear that it is getting to Eli (not that I can blame him).

I think the Giants should be giving Webb many more reps in practice to get him ready. Let him play 2nd halfs to start with. Let Eli break his brother's start record, but after that, let Webb play as much as his performance allows. We have to see what we have in him, or if we need to look at QB again next draft.
Honestly if we do in fact clear the decks this off season  
Stu11 : 11/7/2017 10:23 am : link
new GM/Coach/Staff would Eli at 37 really be excited to come back for that? Especially if we pick a franchise QB? I love Eli. He will be in the pantheon of Giant greats. He may even be an NFL HOF'er. However it always ends. Favre in GB, Unitas in Baltimore, Montana in SF etc... it isn't usually pretty in the end but one thing is for sure, It always ends.
I could take bringing in Webb in the second half of a blow out.  
Dinger : 11/7/2017 10:32 am : link
I can take bringing in Geno (though really webb should have had that time) in the Rams game. If they START another QB while Eli is healthy, then I may consider another organization. The Giants have always touted their 'classy'. Eli has been a 'good soldier' his entire time with the Giants. I don't think he's called a teammate or coach out his during his career here. He's had no off field incidents and even shows his self depreciating side at times. We've had bad coaches before. GM's expire after a while. But your all time franchise QB should be treated like that and I don't think I could follow the Giants if they misstep on Eli's future.
RE: Honestly if we do in fact clear the decks this off season  
Slade : 11/7/2017 2:29 pm : link
In comment 13680463 Stu11 said:
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new GM/Coach/Staff would Eli at 37 really be excited to come back for that? Especially if we pick a franchise QB? I love Eli. He will be in the pantheon of Giant greats. He may even be an NFL HOF'er. However it always ends. Favre in GB, Unitas in Baltimore, Montana in SF etc... it isn't usually pretty in the end but one thing is for sure, It always ends.


I don't see them cleaning house. People will lose their minds but I see Reese getting a pass and McAdoo getting the axe. Ownership is certain that McAdoo has lost the team and all of his credibility. Reese will likely be spared, with an edict to fix the O-Line. A new coach will come in, with the core of the team in tact, with the hope that you can turn things around quickly. We've learned in this league that a team can do an about face in one year- case in point the Giants this year.

There are pieces in place on D under contract... There are weapons in Beckham, Shepherd and Engraham.

Right now, the idea is fix the O-Line, let Eli play out his deal and hopefully make one more run at it...



Webb  
jbeintherockies : 11/7/2017 2:45 pm : link
Webb is their 3rd string QB. He can't beat out Smith. I don't think he is ready to play yet.

If a 2 time super bowl mvp can't get the offense going why would an inexperienced 3rd string QB do any better?

Football is the ultimate team game. Remember that.
RE: RE: Honestly if we do in fact clear the decks this off season  
Section331 : 11/7/2017 3:16 pm : link
In comment 13680842 Slade said:
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I don't see them cleaning house. People will lose their minds but I see Reese getting a pass and McAdoo getting the axe. Ownership is certain that McAdoo has lost the team and all of his credibility. Reese will likely be spared, with an edict to fix the O-Line. A new coach will come in, with the core of the team in tact, with the hope that you can turn things around quickly. We've learned in this league that a team can do an about face in one year- case in point the Giants this year.

There are pieces in place on D under contract... There are weapons in Beckham, Shepherd and Engraham.

Right now, the idea is fix the O-Line, let Eli play out his deal and hopefully make one more run at it...


You are right that people will lose their minds if Reese escapes accountability once again. So let's allow the guy who has missed on so many OL be the one to fix it? This is the very definition of insanity.

It is going to be very hard for ownership to explain how getting rid of the coach but keeping the GM is a good idea when they did the very same thing 2 years ago. Ownership needs to hire someone to run the entire organization, let him hire the GM and HC.
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Go Terps : 11/7/2017 3:22 pm : link
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Right now, the idea is fix the O-Line, let Eli play out his deal and hopefully make one more run at it...


This is the exact mentality that has ruined the second half of Eli's career.
RE: .  
Sean : 11/7/2017 3:40 pm : link
In comment 13680926 Go Terps said:
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Right now, the idea is fix the O-Line, let Eli play out his deal and hopefully make one more run at it...



This is the exact mentality that has ruined the second half of Eli's career.


Yup. ĎMake one more run at ití should be completely eliminated from any organizational dialogue.
RE: RE: Honestly if we do in fact clear the decks this off season  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/13/2017 7:17 pm : link
In comment 13680842 Slade said:
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In comment 13680463 Stu11 said:


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new GM/Coach/Staff would Eli at 37 really be excited to come back for that? Especially if we pick a franchise QB? I love Eli. He will be in the pantheon of Giant greats. He may even be an NFL HOF'er. However it always ends. Favre in GB, Unitas in Baltimore, Montana in SF etc... it isn't usually pretty in the end but one thing is for sure, It always ends.



I don't see them cleaning house. People will lose their minds but I see Reese getting a pass and McAdoo getting the axe. Ownership is certain that McAdoo has lost the team and all of his credibility. Reese will likely be spared, with an edict to fix the O-Line. A new coach will come in, with the core of the team in tact, with the hope that you can turn things around quickly. We've learned in this league that a team can do an about face in one year- case in point the Giants this year.

There are pieces in place on D under contract... There are weapons in Beckham, Shepherd and Engraham.

Right now, the idea is fix the O-Line, let Eli play out his deal and hopefully make one more run at it...



You see Reese getting a pass?

So you're just offering opinions and don't actually have any inside info? Got it.
An edict to fix the O-line?  
Sarcastic Sam : 11/13/2017 7:21 pm : link
"Oooh, brilliant thought, John! I will get right on that." - Jerry
"Reese getting a pass"  
Marty866b : 11/13/2017 7:53 pm : link
I see no way that is happening. Reese should go before McAdoo and there is no chance the coach will be back. Time for a new regime.
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