Big Blue Interactive The Corner Forum  
Back to the Corner
 

Archived Thread

NFT: Attic pull-down stairs w/ an odd configuration- suggestions?

FranknWeezer : 11/7/2017 12:08 pm
I'm looking to install attic stairs in our upstairs playroom to give easier access to the attic above it. Most attic stairs I've seen open 'horizontally' from one end of a rectangular attic opening and then the stairs slope down from one corner down to the floor.

I've got a situation where I have such a rectangular opening, but because of space issues, ours wouldn't be able to extend down in the traditional way (in the horizontal direction of the opening). Ours would have to come down 'forward', or perpendicular to the horizontal opening. Hope that makes sense.

Any thoughts on a set of attic stairs that would work with such a configuration? These are just 8' ceilings, so at least that part of it is standard.

Appreciate any suggestions!

What do you use the attic for?  
jcn56 : 11/7/2017 12:10 pm : link
If it's just for storage and not living space, I installed a Wenger drop down ladder in a similar situation once. It worked well and took up very little space, but I wouldn't want to have to climb it on a regular basis (several times a day), and there's no handrail, it's just a ladder.
I knew it was wrong the second I typed it  
jcn56 : 11/7/2017 12:14 pm : link
but I looked it up - it's a Werner ladder.
http://www.wernerco.com/us/attic-ladders - ( New Window )
Can you post  
pjcas18 : 11/7/2017 12:17 pm : link
a picture of the space because when you say rectangle and non-standard it confuses me a little because mine are rectangle and I just replaced them with the standard attic pull down stairs from Lowe's.

just like in this picture I have a string I pull down and the stairs unfold into a ladder.

I took it to mean (and I could be wrong)  
jcn56 : 11/7/2017 12:19 pm : link
that in your picture, the stairs would be coming down towards the right, not towards the viewer from that perspective.
Since generally the stairs use the length  
steve in ky : 11/7/2017 12:22 pm : link
of the rectangle to fold up into I don't see how you would be able to use a traditional fold down style going the other way.

Perhaps a fixed ladder with some sort of heavy duty hooks bolted into it could be attached hung from the attic when in use and then simple lifted and laid on attic floor when not in use. Not not sure that would be much easier than just using a sturdy step ladder which I assume you are currently using.

The only other thought, and probably not worth the expense involved, would be to perhaps have someone rebuild the opening to run the direction you need for it to and attach a tradition folding attic stairs.

Good luck with it.

RE: I took it to mean (and I could be wrong)  
FranknWeezer : 11/7/2017 12:36 pm : link
In comment 13680672 jcn56 said:
Quote:
that in your picture, the stairs would be coming down towards the right, not towards the viewer from that perspective.


I don't have a pic handy, but jcn56 is correct. My opening looks like the one in your picture; however the stairs would have to open to the left or right (perpendicular to the length of the hole).

May have to try one of those compact Werner ladders. Was hoping for something a bit more substantial, though. Railing not important. This is mainly an area for storage bins, cardboard boxes, etc.
Compact Werner Ladder - ( New Window )
RE: Since generally the stairs use the length  
FranknWeezer : 11/7/2017 12:39 pm : link
In comment 13680675 steve in ky said:
Quote:
of the rectangle to fold up into I don't see how you would be able to use a traditional fold down style going the other way.

Perhaps a fixed ladder with some sort of heavy duty hooks bolted into it could be attached hung from the attic when in use and then simple lifted and laid on attic floor when not in use. Not not sure that would be much easier than just using a sturdy step ladder which I assume you are currently using.

The only other thought, and probably not worth the expense involved, would be to perhaps have someone rebuild the opening to run the direction you need for it to and attach a tradition folding attic stairs.

Good luck with it.


Thanks, Steve. Rather not reconfigure and upset the joists, though. The hook/ladder would wind up on the main floor and not be able to be put away once I was back on the ground, so I don't think that would work. Sounds like I may be stuck with the compact ladder configuration, which is frankly better than lugging around a portable ladder up to this location, etc.
Perhaps this style could work  
steve in ky : 11/7/2017 12:42 pm : link
At least worth a call to them and seek their advise.
Link - ( New Window )
you're going to have to reconfigure the  
oghwga : 11/7/2017 12:57 pm : link
joists either way unless you're going to squeeze through a 14 1/2' opening. Maybe the cheapest and easiest option for you is just to use a portable ladder stowed in the closet and cut an opening in the drywall.
Link - ( New Window )
I guess side slide opening  
idiotsavant : 11/7/2017 1:11 pm : link
And slide down - up ladder or steps.

Might need a stick to reach up grab push and hook.
In the up position  
idiotsavant : 11/7/2017 1:13 pm : link
Ladder would have to be clear of hatch.

Separate units
Go with a Batpole  
Jim in Fairfax : 11/7/2017 1:18 pm : link

Rainbow  
SCGiantsFan : 11/7/2017 2:32 pm : link
offers a variety of options. not sure the meet your needs.
Link - ( New Window )
RE: RE: I took it to mean (and I could be wrong)  
jcn56 : 11/7/2017 2:43 pm : link
In comment 13680689 FranknWeezer said:
Quote:
In comment 13680672 jcn56 said:


Quote:


that in your picture, the stairs would be coming down towards the right, not towards the viewer from that perspective.



I don't have a pic handy, but jcn56 is correct. My opening looks like the one in your picture; however the stairs would have to open to the left or right (perpendicular to the length of the hole).

May have to try one of those compact Werner ladders. Was hoping for something a bit more substantial, though. Railing not important. This is mainly an area for storage bins, cardboard boxes, etc. Compact Werner Ladder - ( New Window )


If you go the Werner route, just note that you should go for the heaviest rating and the majority of the knocks they get in reviews go on the hardware associated with the door, not the ladder itself. The door latch was a real PITA to install and I wasn't fond of it, so I replaced it with a hook latch of my own preference after.

I ended up going with another one in a similar situation in another house - much more expensive, but heavier duty and more attractive, linked below.
https://www.amazon.com/FAKRO-66875-Insulated-Scissor-Openings/dp/B004XWNXNC/ref=pd_sbs_60_5?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B004XWNYUE&pd_rd_r=YYXNMAETJ7W1K8Q4E2BH&pd_rd_w=Cndbr&pd_rd_wg=mFq7j&refRID=YYXNMAETJ7W1K8Q4E2BH&th=1 - ( New Window )
Back to the Corner