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Chris Mara

BP in Delray : 11/7/2017 1:23 pm
His title says "SVP- Player Personnel". Obviously he's an owner as well.

Does anyone know what his actual role is? What kind of decisions is he involved in? I'm genuinely asking, as I don't know.
Both the Ross and Sternfeld report to him  
BillT : 11/7/2017 1:34 pm : link
College scouting and Pro Personnel. I think they report to Reese as well but that's the basic idea.
why dont you send him an email and ask him  
blueblood : 11/7/2017 1:59 pm : link
because no one on this fan website knows exactly what his role is.

Now what I find annoying on BBI is the misguided concept that he has zero credentials and just has the job because of his name. Thats a fallacy. He has a football resume.
RE: why dont you send him an email and ask him  
26.2 : 11/7/2017 2:11 pm : link
In comment 13680799 blueblood said:
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because no one on this fan website knows exactly what his role is.

Now what I find annoying on BBI is the misguided concept that he has zero credentials and just has the job because of his name. Thats a fallacy. He has a football resume.


His best credential is his name, though.
RE: why dont you send him an email and ask him  
HomerJones45 : 11/7/2017 2:24 pm : link
In comment 13680799 blueblood said:
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because no one on this fan website knows exactly what his role is.

Now what I find annoying on BBI is the misguided concept that he has zero credentials and just has the job because of his name. Thats a fallacy. He has a football resume.
Please, are you really that naive? His resume is paper thin and accomplishments, nil.
he has a resume  
blueblood : 11/7/2017 2:31 pm : link
whether you choose to recognize it or not.
his bio is available  
Rocky369 : 11/7/2017 2:37 pm : link
on Giants.com including 35+ years in player evaluation.
I think most people ignore that he has been in scouting  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 11/7/2017 2:44 pm : link
for the Giants since the 80s.
RE: his bio is available  
BillT : 11/7/2017 2:45 pm : link
In comment 13680859 Rocky369 said:
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on Giants.com including 35+ years in player evaluation.


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Chris Mara joined the Giants as Vice President of Player Evaluation on July 29, 2003. He was promoted to Senior Vice President of Player Personnel in 2011.

This is Mara’s second tour of duty with the franchise. He joined the Giants staff prior to the 1979 season and over the next 14 years was a member of the club’s player personnel department. Mara was a scout during the franchise’s first two Super Bowl Championship seasons in 1986 and 1990.

Following his first stint with the Giants, Mara spent eight years (1994-2001) operating ProRate, Inc., an independent football scouting service contracted by as many as 15 NFL franchises. The service provided an evaluation of the free agent market in the NFL. (more at Giants.com)
Fire him then  
HomerJones45 : 11/7/2017 2:55 pm : link
And see who rushes to hire him. He no doubt will have other teams falling all over themselves to retain his invaluable services.
Fire him then  
HomerJones45 : 11/7/2017 2:55 pm : link
And see who rushes to hire him. He no doubt will have other teams falling all over themselves to retain his invaluable services.
RE: he has a resume  
Section331 : 11/7/2017 2:58 pm : link
In comment 13680847 blueblood said:
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whether you choose to recognize it or not.


I agree that he has a resume, and I've heard positive things about his evaluation skills, but you have to admit that his job title presents a bit of a conflict. If they're overhauling the personnel department, would Chris Mara still have a job with a different last name? The answer is undoubtedly no.
RE: RE: he has a resume  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/7/2017 3:19 pm : link
In comment 13680898 Section331 said:
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If they're overhauling the personnel department, would Chris Mara still have a job with a different last name? The answer is undoubtedly no.


Why undoubtedly? Nobody can say with any kind of certainty what decisions may or may not be attributed to him, what player finds may be to his credit, or what moves that flopped were on him.

For all anyone here knows, he might be the best eye for talent they have.
Why not make him  
spike : 11/7/2017 3:22 pm : link
The Gm then
RE: RE: RE: he has a resume  
Section331 : 11/7/2017 3:23 pm : link
In comment 13680921 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Why undoubtedly? Nobody can say with any kind of certainty what decisions may or may not be attributed to him, what player finds may be to his credit, or what moves that flopped were on him.

For all anyone here knows, he might be the best eye for talent they have.


Sure, and for all anyone here knows, he might have the worst eye for talent. That is the problem, his being a Mara gives even the appearance of impropriety. Sure, it's their team, and they can run it as they see fit, but when fans see the entire front office gutted, but Chris Mara is still standing, don't be surprised when they ask questions.
Chris Mara's resume is  
arniefez : 11/7/2017 3:30 pm : link
son of Wellington. Period. He's an owner. The fact that he's picking players is why the Giants are what they are now. We had a Giants Super Bowl era of football with Mara's picking the players. 1966-1979. Now we have a new one 2012-?
RE: Fire him then  
Vanzetti : 11/7/2017 4:38 pm : link
In comment 13680892 HomerJones45 said:
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And see who rushes to hire him. He no doubt will have other teams falling all over themselves to retain his invaluable services.


Exactly. It is amazing to what lengths some on BBI will go to deny the obvious
RE: RE: Fire him then  
LauderdaleMatty : 11/7/2017 5:11 pm : link
In comment 13681052 Vanzetti said:
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In comment 13680892 HomerJones45 said:


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And see who rushes to hire him. He no doubt will have other teams falling all over themselves to retain his invaluable services.



Exactly. It is amazing to what lengths some on BBI will go to deny the obvious


Come on. He's got major football Chops. His family owning a team as NOTHING to do with it. Haters.
RE: I think most people ignore that he has been in scouting  
steve in ky : 11/7/2017 5:13 pm : link
In comment 13680871 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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for the Giants since the 80s.


Just because he grew up into it doesn't automatically translate into his having the best talent for the job, so length of time doing it doesn't mean the same as it would had his name been Jones instead of Mara.

Wellington Mara grew up around it for much of his life yet he needed outside help in Young.

When the Mara's to place themselves in the personnel decision making seats we have to accept the fact that unless you believe that even if they tried to hire the most qualified person available for the job, they would still always be the better skilled option.

I get it though, it's their team, I can't say for certain how involved I would want to be if I grew up in that situation but that still doesn't mean it's highly unlikely they would be both lucky enough to be born into it and the most qualified individuals for the jobs they give themselves. And if they aren't them the team suffers for it to some extent.
Chris Mara is playing fantasy football..  
EricJ : 11/7/2017 10:42 pm : link
with the Giants' roster
RE: Chris Mara's resume is  
Del Shofner : 11/7/2017 10:49 pm : link
In comment 13680942 arniefez said:
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son of Wellington. Period. He's an owner. The fact that he's picking players is why the Giants are what they are now. We had a Giants Super Bowl era of football with Mara's picking the players. 1966-1979. Now we have a new one 2012-?


This is my impression as well. I think if the Giants are serious about a rebuild they kick Chris upstairs or otherwise get him out of the player selection process, which has been a disaster.
Hey Chris, just sell your share of the team,  
LAXin : 11/7/2017 11:35 pm : link
and make Robert Tisch the majority owner of the Giants.

RE: why dont you send him an email and ask him  
baadbill : 11/8/2017 2:57 pm : link
In comment 13680799 blueblood said:
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because no one on this fan website knows exactly what his role is.

Now what I find annoying on BBI is the misguided concept that he has zero credentials and just has the job because of his name. Thats a fallacy. He has a football resume.


Whatever his credentials, it isn't prudent to have someone in football operations who isn't as accountable as a non-family member would be for at least two reasons. First, the obvious one, he can't be fired (or at least it becomes much more problematic to do so). Secondly, by definition, he has out-sized influence beyond what a non-family member in the same position would have.

Just a horrible, horrible idea. End of story for me.
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