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NFT: Game Thread: Hornets (5-5) vs Knicks (5-4)

LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/7/2017 7:25 pm
First night of a back to back. Tomorrow at Orlando. Let's get this W. CONTAIN KEMBA
Porzingis with a quick 11  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/7/2017 7:52 pm : link
Howard is doing whatever he wants on offense.
KP with 13 early.  
bceagle05 : 11/7/2017 7:54 pm : link
He's a monster. Now get Frank in there!
Need OQ  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/7/2017 7:55 pm : link
in there to defend Howard
I'm having a Knicksgasm watching this  
Stu11 : 11/7/2017 7:59 pm : link
Its like having Bernard King back exvept he's 7 feet and can block shots
anyone  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 11/7/2017 8:02 pm : link
know a stream
Knicks still havent figured  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/7/2017 8:04 pm : link
out how to close out on shooters. I feel like every game theres so many uncontested 3s against them.
ball dont lie  
nygiants16 : 11/7/2017 8:05 pm : link
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Was that Haywood Workman  
B in ALB : 11/7/2017 8:06 pm : link
Who made that ridiculous call on KP?
Kemba Walker must average 30+ a game at MSG including college  
Stu11 : 11/7/2017 8:07 pm : link
Knicks down 8 but I doubt Charlotte will shoot 70% the rest of the way
It WAS Workman!!!!  
B in ALB : 11/7/2017 8:07 pm : link
Fucking piece of SHIT!
RE: It WAS Workman!!!!  
nygiants16 : 11/7/2017 8:09 pm : link
In comment 13681287 B in ALB said:
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Fucking piece of SHIT!


he called it on ntlikina?????
How is our starting SG  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/7/2017 8:10 pm : link
Missing 3 free throws already?
41 freaking points?  
bceagle05 : 11/7/2017 8:10 pm : link
Let's tighten things up, fellas.
Monk toasts Frank on the drive.  
Del Shofner : 11/7/2017 8:18 pm : link
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Lance Thomas  
B in ALB : 11/7/2017 8:19 pm : link
Is terrible.
RE: How is our starting SG  
Greg from LI : 11/7/2017 8:20 pm : link
In comment 13681290 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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Missing 3 free throws already?


Because our 2 is Tim Hardaway and he sucks. Not that mystifying, really
Malik Monk  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/7/2017 8:26 pm : link
Going off.

Kyle OQuinn doing all the little things.
RE: RE: How is our starting SG  
nygiants16 : 11/7/2017 8:27 pm : link
In comment 13681299 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 13681290 LawrenceTaylor56 said:


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Missing 3 free throws already?



Because our 2 is Tim Hardaway and he sucks. Not that mystifying, really


during 5-1 stretch 20 points 4 boards and 4 assists on 45 percent shooting, sucks?
Monk is good.  
Del Shofner : 11/7/2017 8:28 pm : link
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Breen just loves Monk at #11  
B in ALB : 11/7/2017 8:28 pm : link
Hates Frank at #8. You can hear it.
hayward workman making calls from half court  
nygiants16 : 11/7/2017 8:30 pm : link
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RE: hayward workman making calls from half court  
B in ALB : 11/7/2017 8:31 pm : link
In comment 13681311 nygiants16 said:
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Best ref in the game.
Knicks keeping close(ish) despite playing some sloppy ball  
PhiPsi125 : 11/7/2017 8:31 pm : link
and the hornets shooting their skulls out. The Hornets shooting should come back down to earth. If the Knicks can tighten things up then we have a game.
Don't worry Hardaway  
B in ALB : 11/7/2017 8:33 pm : link
KP will clean up your mess.

How about playing some D? Asshole.
RE: Breen just loves Monk at #11  
PhiPsi125 : 11/7/2017 8:33 pm : link
In comment 13681310 B in ALB said:
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Hates Frank at #8. You can hear it.


You can hear it too? Breen already has Monk in the HOF.
RE: RE: Breen just loves Monk at #11  
B in ALB : 11/7/2017 8:34 pm : link
In comment 13681317 PhiPsi125 said:
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In comment 13681310 B in ALB said:


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Hates Frank at #8. You can hear it.



You can hear it too? Breen already has Monk in the HOF.


Yuuuup.
Ugh, sloppy sloppy game. Defense has been pretty bad too.  
PhiPsi125 : 11/7/2017 8:36 pm : link
Come on boys.
Hardaway is a BUM  
B in ALB : 11/7/2017 8:36 pm : link
tonight. Absolute shit.
Enough of the Knicks showcasing  
Earl the goat : 11/7/2017 8:37 pm : link
Courtney Lee
He doesnt deserve to be in starting lineup or to be given the minutes Hornacek is giving him
down 11 @ half -  
Del Shofner : 11/7/2017 8:39 pm : link
not playing very well so far. Gotta defend the 3's better and avoid the turnovers.
Bacon and Monk were my draft targets in June.  
bceagle05 : 11/7/2017 8:55 pm : link
Bacon's been invisible.
RE: Hardaway is a BUM  
Greg from LI : 11/7/2017 8:59 pm : link
In comment 13681320 B in ALB said:
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tonight. Absolute shit.


Tonight?
He just keeps on chucking.  
bceagle05 : 11/7/2017 9:01 pm : link
Unreal.
Running out of patience with Hardaway  
ghost718 : 11/7/2017 9:03 pm : link
Could care less about your slump,stop fuckin' shooting
KP  
B in ALB : 11/7/2017 9:07 pm : link
looks tired.
Gotta love Clyde.  
bceagle05 : 11/7/2017 9:13 pm : link
Goes on and on about +/- and then admits he doesn't understand it.
Dougie McBuckets!  
bigbluehoya : 11/7/2017 9:23 pm : link
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Take Monk  
Carl in CT : 11/7/2017 9:23 pm : link
All day.
Doug McBuckets  
dpinzow : 11/7/2017 9:23 pm : link
wow, chance at a 4 point play
Offensive goaltending  
PhiPsi125 : 11/7/2017 9:25 pm : link
Dumbest rule is all of sports.
These guys have heart, thats for damn sure.  
PhiPsi125 : 11/7/2017 9:27 pm : link
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The Garden is ALIVE  
dpinzow : 11/7/2017 9:27 pm : link
LOUD
Not sucking entirely  
bigbluehoya : 11/7/2017 9:27 pm : link
Is really fun.
Love this team  
Carl in CT : 11/7/2017 9:28 pm : link
Give me a stud 3 and we are right back contending.
So I guess Charlotte will turn back into a pumpkin again  
PhiPsi125 : 11/7/2017 9:35 pm : link
once they leave NY, right? Ball is definitely bouncing their way tonight, unfortunately. Still a good game.
Love how McDermott competes out there.  
bceagle05 : 11/7/2017 9:36 pm : link
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Thomas & Hardaway back to back 3's  
JoeMoney19 : 11/7/2017 9:37 pm : link
naturally. Haha.
This is a fun team  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/7/2017 9:37 pm : link
To watch.
TH JR cuts the Charlotte lead to 3  
dpinzow : 11/7/2017 9:37 pm : link
The Hornets call for time. 4:46 to go
Game is getting rowdy  
JoeMoney19 : 11/7/2017 9:41 pm : link
af.
The refs are letting Howard mug Porzingis  
dpinzow : 11/7/2017 9:41 pm : link
Terrible officiating
The fuck are these refs watching?  
bigbluehoya : 11/7/2017 9:41 pm : link
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Howard has literally fouled himself out  
dpinzow : 11/7/2017 9:42 pm : link
and the refs haven't called much on him
These refs are fucking assholes. Howard outright shoved KP  
PhiPsi125 : 11/7/2017 9:42 pm : link
to the ground with no call. And Howard has been mugging him all quarter.
They finally call Howard for something  
dpinzow : 11/7/2017 9:43 pm : link
and KP will get 2 free throws to tie. Took a forearm shiver in the back for them to finally call something
Wow  
JoeMoney19 : 11/7/2017 9:44 pm : link
KP is amazing.
Lol, ice cold!  
PhiPsi125 : 11/7/2017 9:45 pm : link
KP is just not human.
KP with a 3!  
yatqb : 11/7/2017 9:45 pm : link
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Porzingis hits a 3 right in Howard's face  
dpinzow : 11/7/2017 9:45 pm : link
The Garden is insane right now
.  
arcarsenal : 11/7/2017 9:45 pm : link
Porzi is absolutely untouchable right now. Holy shit.

Guy is playing as well as anyone in this league.
This is fun  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/7/2017 9:45 pm : link
!
The offensive rebounds  
JoeMoney19 : 11/7/2017 9:46 pm : link
continue to kill the Knicks.

Who'd have thought McBuckets and Thomas would be out there for crunch time.
Kemnah has been pulling the same move night. Swing under the  
PhiPsi125 : 11/7/2017 9:47 pm : link
basket to the open man in the corner. Have to adjust.
About time  
JoeMoney19 : 11/7/2017 9:49 pm : link
that doesn't go in for Walker against us. That was so nearly deja vu.
Ditch the PnR  
bigbluehoya : 11/7/2017 9:49 pm : link
And let KP go iso on Howard.

If they help, kick it out.
RE: This is fun  
Sean : 11/7/2017 9:49 pm : link
In comment 13681404 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Most fun watching this team in a generation!
Woooo  
JoeMoney19 : 11/7/2017 9:50 pm : link
PorzinGOD!
KP  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/7/2017 9:50 pm : link
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I had a bad Ewing flashback there.  
bceagle05 : 11/7/2017 9:51 pm : link
Finish this!
The Knicks used 23.99 seconds of that 24 second shot clock  
dpinzow : 11/7/2017 9:51 pm : link
to get the Unicorn that layup
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arcarsenal : 11/7/2017 9:52 pm : link
First time I've been pumped about the Knicks since 2013 - this is way better because a young superstar is at the heart of it all.
Great defense to force the turnover!!!  
dpinzow : 11/7/2017 9:54 pm : link
Will be reviewed but I think it went off Kemba
Monk's shooting finally came down to earth this quarter  
JoeMoney19 : 11/7/2017 9:54 pm : link
another great game for the Knicks.
Keep smiling  
bigbluehoya : 11/7/2017 9:56 pm : link
Dwight Howard
Once again a come from behind win.  
yatqb : 11/7/2017 9:57 pm : link
This team continues to surprise!
I really assumed  
JoeMoney19 : 11/7/2017 9:57 pm : link
4th quarter defense would be why the Knicks would LOSE many close games this season. This has been a pleasant total surprise.
Sweet victory!  
bceagle05 : 11/7/2017 9:58 pm : link
Monk's big "statement game" sure fizzled out. Enjoy anonymity in Charlotte, Malik! And Dwight is still a clown.
29 assists  
xman : 11/7/2017 9:58 pm : link
nice
Didn't think they had the energy to pull this one out.  
bceagle05 : 11/7/2017 9:59 pm : link
A lot of character with this group.
Nice win!  
Sean : 11/7/2017 9:59 pm : link
6-4
This is crazy!!!  
Beezer : 11/7/2017 10:00 pm : link
6-1!!!
RE: .  
Sean : 11/7/2017 10:01 pm : link
In comment 13681416 arcarsenal said:
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First time I've been pumped about the Knicks since 2013 - this is way better because a young superstar is at the heart of it all.


2013 team was way unlikable to me. This is the most excited Ive been since 2004 when they finally ended their playoff drought.
Love that Jeff has trusted Frank  
Beezer : 11/7/2017 10:01 pm : link
in the fourth quarter both of these last two comeback wins. So good to see!
The way they played for three quarters, the Knicks had no  
PhiPsi125 : 11/7/2017 10:03 pm : link
business winning this game. They continue to surprise for and expected lottery team. KP is not only excelling at the game but his confidence and leadership is a breath of fresh are. This team is growing before our eyes.
they still incur the first quarter deficits but  
Del Shofner : 11/7/2017 10:04 pm : link
they are reliable in fighting back late ...
Another great win!  
mfsd : 11/7/2017 10:04 pm : link
Several of our astute posters here predicted Charlotte would give us trouble on the boards...their guards would be tough to contain...Howard would be a handful...and all proved true

And yet, the Knicks had the chops to tighten up on defense in the 4th, shoot their way back into the game, and put them away, despite a couple weak possessions late.

Nkitilinas 4th Q on offense was a mixed bag, but he brought his A game on defense again.

Great job by KP to overcome Howard essentially playing football against him down the stretch, and step out to drill the dagger 3 to put us ahead

4-1 homestand against some good teams...time to see if they can pull out games like this on the road
Hope we see a lot of Willy and Dotson tomorrow.  
bceagle05 : 11/7/2017 10:05 pm : link
There'll be some tired legs in Orlando.
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arcarsenal : 11/7/2017 10:06 pm : link
In comment 13681432 Sean said:
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First time I've been pumped about the Knicks since 2013 - this is way better because a young superstar is at the heart of it all.



2013 team was way unlikable to me. This is the most excited Ive been since 2004 when they finally ended their playoff drought.


In retrospect, maybe - but that season was fun while it was going on. It was an old team so there wasn't the "hope for the future" aspect, but there were some really good games that year.

We were hinging on too many old guys like Kidd, Wallace, KMart, Camby, etc, but that team won more games than any other Knick team had since 1997. It was enjoyable at the time.

This is much better because of Porzingis and the way the team is playing in general. No more watching Melo spend half the game playing iso ball.
Why do the refs  
moespree : 11/7/2017 10:07 pm : link
Allow Dwight Howard to get away with what he does? The guy isn't even liked by anyone in the league and plays like this every game no matter the opponent. He doesn't actually play defense or box out. He just throws people out of the way. Plus I'm willing to bet he throws at least 4 or 5 cheap shots a game into your lower back.
Has KP missed a shot in crunch time this year yet?  
Tesla : 11/7/2017 10:07 pm : link
On top of everything else he's so damn clutch! And his 4th quarter defense has been ridiculous the last two nights....guys don't even think about shooting when they get close to the rim.
Kp is a stud  
DennyInDenville : 11/7/2017 10:08 pm : link
Frank is the real deal..

Very exciting
Another worthy effort from Lance Thomas too  
mfsd : 11/7/2017 10:38 pm : link
+18, 3-3 from the field, 2-2 from the line
3 unsung hereos who stepped up huge  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/7/2017 10:39 pm : link
McDermott
Lance Thomas
KOQ

You have Noah on this team since Game 1  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/7/2017 10:40 pm : link
this team isn't 6-4 right now, in my opinion.

I think he's gonna be the most hated man on this team within a few days.
Lance in small doses is fine.  
bceagle05 : 11/7/2017 10:40 pm : link
These past couple of years he's been our sixth man, which is ludicrous.
Saw this on RealGM and had to share...  
bceagle05 : 11/7/2017 10:52 pm : link
RE: You have Noah on this team since Game 1  
Beezer : 11/7/2017 11:23 pm : link
In comment 13681459 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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this team isn't 6-4 right now, in my opinion.

I think he's gonna be the most hated man on this team within a few days.


I kinda believe in Jeff. I dont think he will let Noah wreck the chem. I think hell give Noah a leash and time. But not unlimited in either regard.
If Noah plays like he did last year he really has little role  
yatqb : 11/7/2017 11:27 pm : link
on this team. He couldn't play defense last year, and his offensive game is horrendous. He can pass out of the post, but I don't think that is enough for him to deserve to take minutes away from Kanter or KOQ.
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Beezer : 11/7/2017 11:27 pm : link
In comment 13681440 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 13681416 arcarsenal said:


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First time I've been pumped about the Knicks since 2013 - this is way better because a young superstar is at the heart of it all.



2013 team was way unlikable to me. This is the most excited Ive been since 2004 when they finally ended their playoff drought.



In retrospect, maybe - but that season was fun while it was going on. It was an old team so there wasn't the "hope for the future" aspect, but there were some really good games that year.

We were hinging on too many old guys like Kidd, Wallace, KMart, Camby, etc, but that team won more games than any other Knick team had since 1997. It was enjoyable at the time.

This is much better because of Porzingis and the way the team is playing in general. No more watching Melo spend half the game playing iso ball.


And on one third-quarter possession, KP had what appeared to be a open look at a 3 from the top. But he dished into the left corner to a MORE open Lee. Now, Lee missed the open 3. But right there was a indicator.

KP has learned plenty, including NOT to emulate Melos me game.
an indicator *  
Beezer : 11/7/2017 11:28 pm : link
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Cool Fact.  
guitarguybs12 : 11/8/2017 12:23 am : link
Ian Begley‏
@IanBegley
Knicks have won back-to-back games when down by double digits entering 4th Q for first time in the shot-clock era (since 1954-55), per Elias
Speaking of Melo  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/8/2017 12:27 am : link
the Star-Studded Thunder just dropped tonights game to the 1-8 Kings. They now fall to 4-6.
Another great finish for the Knicks.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/8/2017 12:30 am : link
On KP's lay-up at the end, I screamed "SHOOT IT!!!!!" with 3 seconds left on the shot clock. How he got that all the way to the rim in that small amount of time is unbelievable. Big night for McBuckets. Gotta give Horny credit for the small lineup since that was the only way they could defend the Hornets. In the first half, the Knicks looked like they'd never seen a pick and roll before. They were getting eaten alive, but they hung in there. It showed a lot of toughness to bounce back at 109-100.

Interesting to see Beasley out of the rotation.
Knicks have to find a way  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/8/2017 12:33 am : link
to stop letting teams get so many uncontested 3's. It seems like they are crashing the lanes hard to provide help to Kanter/KP, allowing that extra swing pass to an open 3
Anthony shot 4 for 17 tonight  
arniefez : 11/8/2017 12:44 am : link
and was -21. Phil Jackson had no business running an NBA team and devalued an asset but everything he said about Anthony was true.
RE: Knicks have to find a way  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/8/2017 1:51 am : link
In comment 13681512 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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to stop letting teams get so many uncontested 3's. It seems like they are crashing the lanes hard to provide help to Kanter/KP, allowing that extra swing pass to an open 3


I don't disagree with you, but I think a little of it is designed. They were letting Lance Stevenson have open looks the other night because he's known-terrible from 3.
Can someone explain to me  
B in ALB : 11/8/2017 2:46 am : link
How Haywoode Workman is allowed to ref Knicks games? He is consistently ridiculous and borderline corrupt. It's despicable.
Bizarro world -  
GiantsUA : 11/8/2017 7:47 am : link
Knicks lose that game 10/10 times the past several years.

Nice to see Kemba lose that game at the garden.

A lot of missed assignments on defense. Must improve.

Frank with two missed 3's and a charge in crunch time almost cost the Knick's the game.
RE: Bizarro world -  
Beezer : 11/8/2017 8:09 am : link
In comment 13681567 GiantsUA said:
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Knicks lose that game 10/10 times the past several years.

Nice to see Kemba lose that game at the garden.

A lot of missed assignments on defense. Must improve.

Frank with two missed 3's and a charge in crunch time almost cost the Knick's the game.


Still, he's taking those shots and he made a huge 3 the previous game. He's a college freshman gaining confidence playing in New York City running point for a team down 11 heading into the fourth. I really can't crap on anything about the Frank situation last night - even the misses and the charge. (It was a really good defensive play.)
Really very happy with the way Jeff is working things.  
Beezer : 11/8/2017 8:11 am : link
I think we are now seeing how he can coach. Sad that he really MAY have been completely handcuffed last season, although that's absolutely not the only factor.

Wouldn't say I'm worried, but a little nervous and very interested to see how things evolve once Noah returns. This next week should be intriguing.
Kyle O'Quinn and Lance Thomas are players  
Ira : 11/8/2017 8:11 am : link
that no one expected to contribute at this level. I think Jeff and his coaching staff are bringing the best out of their players.
The thing about Frank  
Dave on the UWS : 11/8/2017 8:39 am : link
is he DOES bring his "A" defense game every night. THATS what will make him special. His offense is secondary and will be a work in progress.
KOQ and Thomas  
Dave on the UWS : 11/8/2017 8:41 am : link
are best in small doses as rotation players. Ask too much of them (last couple of years) and their warts show big time.
trade Noah right now for a bag of balls ...  
Csonka : 11/8/2017 2:21 pm : link
before he messes this up.
There hasn't been this much excitement in the Garden since  
fredgbrown : 11/8/2017 2:41 pm : link
Linsanity. Lin should also be thankful for his little Linsanity stretch otherwise he wouldn't he seen anywhere near the 50 million he has made since then .
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