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30 for 30: Two Bills (Parcells/Belichick)

Toastt34 : 11/8/2017 2:39 am
Sorry if this has already been posted but this looks awesome.
30 for 30: Two Bills - ( New Window )
Yep saw that during the Flair 30 for 30  
Route 9 : 11/8/2017 5:15 am : link
Which I just posted about. The Two Bills one looks spectacular!
Looks good.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/8/2017 7:01 am : link
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wow  
bigblue12 : 11/8/2017 9:05 am : link
That looks awesome. Definitely an uncomfortable look between the two.
Couldn't help but notice  
Bramton1 : 11/8/2017 3:08 pm : link
The face-to-face meet is taking place in the Giants locker room.

Just a reminder that once a Giant, always a Giant.
My buddy at NFL Films worked on this  
Go Terps : 11/8/2017 3:12 pm : link
After he met with them he had me on the phone for an hour talking about it.
It's interesting that they worked so well together  
Greg from LI : 11/8/2017 3:14 pm : link
But apparently don't like each other all that much.
RE: It's interesting that they worked so well together  
Racer : 11/8/2017 3:34 pm : link
In comment 13682385 Greg from LI said:
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But apparently don't like each other all that much.


I'm sure when George S. Patton Jr. and Douglas MacArthur shoot the shit in the big West Point in the sky, it's similar.....
I'm looking forward to it. But it will be bittersweet to see what they  
Victor in CT : 11/8/2017 4:23 pm : link
once had on the same staff (and Coughlin, Crennel, Groh, Erhardt, Pope, Hoaglin) and the disaster we see now.
Belichick  
Dragon : 11/9/2017 12:50 am : link
How does Tuna get credit for him he was on the Giants staff before Tuna and remained there until Tuna took some time managing guy and recommended him to be the next Giants coach after Belichick left for Cleveland. You want to give him credit for Belichick during those days the Giants were all about defense nice if the offense showed up something Belichick is know for. Tuna was and will always be overrated and a born liar day in day out.
They should both kiss  
Giants_ROK : 11/9/2017 6:02 am : link
the respective asses of Ron Erhardt (RIP) and Ted Marchibroda (RIP). Ray Perkins should get some credit, too.
RE: Belichick  
Les in TO : 11/9/2017 11:29 am : link
In comment 13683058 Dragon said:
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How does Tuna get credit for him he was on the Giants staff before Tuna and remained there until Tuna took some time managing guy and recommended him to be the next Giants coach after Belichick left for Cleveland. You want to give him credit for Belichick during those days the Giants were all about defense nice if the offense showed up something Belichick is know for. Tuna was and will always be overrated and a born liar day in day out.
Tuna had success on his own turning around the Patriots and Jets and to a lesser extent the Cowboys. Like him or not, he knew how to coach.
And how to build teams as compared  
idiotsavant : 11/9/2017 11:56 am : link
To these Lilliputians.
Dragon  
arniefez : 11/9/2017 2:22 pm : link
Where does this stupid nonsense come from? George Young had zero use for Bill Belichick and much less use for Bill Parcells. George Young hand picked Ray Handley and told Bill Belichick before he left for Cleveland that he would not be considered for the Giants head coach. Any Giants fan that doesn't understand what Bill Parcells did for the Giants in the 80's is totally clueless.
RE: Dragon  
Victor in CT : 11/9/2017 3:43 pm : link
In comment 13683771 arniefez said:
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Where does this stupid nonsense come from? George Young had zero use for Bill Belichick and much less use for Bill Parcells. George Young hand picked Ray Handley and told Bill Belichick before he left for Cleveland that he would not be considered for the Giants head coach. Any Giants fan that doesn't understand what Bill Parcells did for the Giants in the 80's is totally clueless.


Thank you. GY had his heart set on Handley. He didn't think Belichick would be a successful HC.
RE: RE: Belichick  
jcn56 : 11/9/2017 4:05 pm : link
In comment 13683511 Les in TO said:
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In comment 13683058 Dragon said:


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How does Tuna get credit for him he was on the Giants staff before Tuna and remained there until Tuna took some time managing guy and recommended him to be the next Giants coach after Belichick left for Cleveland. You want to give him credit for Belichick during those days the Giants were all about defense nice if the offense showed up something Belichick is know for. Tuna was and will always be overrated and a born liar day in day out.

Tuna had success on his own turning around the Patriots and Jets and to a lesser extent the Cowboys. Like him or not, he knew how to coach.


I think Parcells was a great coach in his own right - but with two of the three teams you mentioned there he had Belichick by his side.
Parcells gave Belichick a job in NE  
arniefez : 11/9/2017 4:48 pm : link
when NO ONE else in the NFL would hire him. George Young could have hired Belichick or Parcells instead of Fassel in 1997. He passed on both.
C'mon, let's not pretend that Belichick was going to be done  
jcn56 : 11/9/2017 4:52 pm : link
if he didn't rejoin Parcells.

Young and Parcells didn't get along, that much was established fact. I wonder about Belichick - the rumor was Belichick was running around with one of the secretaries inside of Giants HQ and had run afoul of Wellington. I know we hear that Young said that Belichick didn't have the personal makeup to be a HC, but I wonder whether he was blacklisted internally by Mara.
I can't say I know what the demand for Belichick was in 1996  
Greg from LI : 11/9/2017 5:19 pm : link
But he took a position coach job (DB coach, although with an associate head coach title as well) with Parcells and the Patriots, which does suggest that he wasn't offered a DC position.
jcn56  
arniefez : 11/9/2017 5:56 pm : link
That rumor was true but I don't know anything about the Wellington part of it.
shit  
spike : 11/10/2017 4:13 pm : link
they could release this in theater and people would pay to watch this gem.
RE: I'm looking forward to it. But it will be bittersweet to see what they  
spike : 11/10/2017 4:15 pm : link
In comment 13682594 Victor in CT said:
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once had on the same staff (and Coughlin, Crennel, Groh, Erhardt, Pope, Hoaglin) and the disaster we see now.


See Lombardi and Tom Landry years before them
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