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NFT: Ric Flair 30 for 30

Route 9 : 11/8/2017 5:11 am
Anyone here give it a watch?
Yes  
twostepgiants : 11/8/2017 7:08 am : link
What a mess he is.
It was a great  
jvm52106 : 11/8/2017 8:04 am : link
show. The Nature Boy really over took Richard Fliehr and he lived as he portrayed himself. But, even his friends, people he worked closely with, said you can't trust what he says to you. He tells you want he wants you to know, not what the truth is.

To see what happened to his and how he basically played a major role in it from being an absent father (outside of the pushing wrestling)to the blatant ignoring of the obvious signs of drug and alcohol abuse...

Overall, it is a sad look at a life where the guy even today really doesn't see what he did as being wrong.
to his son  
jvm52106 : 11/8/2017 8:05 am : link
I left out son in my previous post.
I once had a guy tell me..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/8/2017 9:00 am : link
Ric Flair is the loneliest social person you'll ever meet. He craved being around people because he didn't know what to do when he was alone.

He drank each day at area steakhouses, ran several business into the ground, including the successful Gold's gym's in Charlotte, alienated friends and family, and eventually was forced out of the city because he had too many people he owed money to.

Going to atlanta furthered his decline because he didn't have the social network and he just drank even more looking for people to hang with. He never was Rich Fleihr - only Ric Flair, and it has made for a pretty miserable life.
RE: I once had a guy tell me..  
Greg from LI : 11/8/2017 9:09 am : link
In comment 13681659 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Ric Flair is the loneliest social person you'll ever meet. He craved being around people because he didn't know what to do when he was alone.


Sounds like Chris Farley. My best friend from college was living in Chicago around the time Farley died. His girlfriend at that time was a waitress at the Cheesecake Factory on the ground floor at the Hancock Center, where he lived, and she said he used to come in and hang out at the restaurant all the time and try to make the staff laugh, almost compulsively.
I've got to see this  
MetsAreBack : 11/8/2017 9:53 am : link
my younger brother, who grew up in Charlotte with my Dad and his second wife after he took a job at Bank of America... was best friends with his soon, Reid, through high school. They all rented a limo together for prom. Also friendly with the daughter, Ashley.

Reid was a really good kid... damn shame.
I thought it was pretty good too - I never knew his daughter is  
PatersonPlank : 11/8/2017 10:00 am : link
the champ of the womens division wrestling. She seems like the only normal one of the bunch. I can't believe the guy drank 10 beers and 5 mixed drinks a day, for like 20 years. How can he function at anything, let alone something physical like wrestling.

Conversely I can feel for him a little, going from hotel to hotel in the center of Iowa is very boring.
RE: I thought it was pretty good too - I never knew his daughter is  
nygiants16 : 11/8/2017 10:20 am : link
In comment 13681790 PatersonPlank said:
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the champ of the womens division wrestling. She seems like the only normal one of the bunch. I can't believe the guy drank 10 beers and 5 mixed drinks a day, for like 20 years. How can he function at anything, let alone something physical like wrestling.

Conversely I can feel for him a little, going from hotel to hotel in the center of Iowa is very boring.


it is not anything crazy compared to some of the drugs wrestlers did after shows...

they were om the road 300 days of the year...

one thing from the 30 for 30  
nygiants16 : 11/8/2017 10:23 am : link
i didnt realize how much triple h and shawn micbaels just dont like him anymore, i think they still respect him but i dont think they trust a word he says...

hbk i kind of figured because flair basically shat on their last match by going to tna and wrestling...
claims to have slept with 10,000 women  
gtt350 : 11/8/2017 10:40 am : link
how lonely is that
RE: claims to have slept with 10,000 women  
jvm52106 : 11/8/2017 10:48 am : link
In comment 13681875 gtt350 said:
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how lonely is that


The fact that he says it with out a hint of like- WTH was life and why did I do all of this shit, says a lot about his issues.

To hear Hulk Hogan say Flair was so much better than he was, was a refreshing admittance to what Hulk was at his prime. He was never a wrestler. He was a Superhero, a comic book character and a guy who got by because he was big, larger than life and had charisma.
10000 women  
allstarjim : 11/8/2017 10:52 am : link
Is like having a different woman every day for 30 straight years. I'm thinking he's exaggerating a little.
10000 women?  
Greg from LI : 11/8/2017 10:55 am : link
Amateur.

-Wilt Chamberlain
He also got Jim Ross fired  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 11/8/2017 10:59 am : link
because JR couldn't control him at a party.
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Banks : 11/8/2017 11:28 am : link
I never knew much about his personal life. I'm really curious about this 30 for 30
RE: 10000 women  
nygiants16 : 11/8/2017 11:47 am : link
In comment 13681903 allstarjim said:
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Is like having a different woman every day for 30 straight years. I'm thinking he's exaggerating a little.


it is really not out of the realm of possibility, on the roade over 6 days a week, probably 2 girls a night..
That was the best 30 for 30 they ever did.  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/8/2017 11:57 am : link
Flair is the greatest wrestler of all time, period. But he was obviously a very troubled man. I think alot of that came from being adopted and having a somewhat awkward relationship (which they highlighted last night) with his adopted parents. He never really knew who he was or where he really came from but still somehow, someway goes onto become the literal greatest of all time in his field. I mean, that's pretty fucking insane, if you ask me.

If you've followed wrestling over the past couple of decades or so, you know despite his persona, Flair has always had confidence issues. They highlight this and go in-depth on his confidence issues on his WWE-made documentary DVD that came out in 2008. They did a great job covering it.
It was very interesting  
JonC : 11/8/2017 12:11 pm : link
Growing up in the 70s and 80s without the Internet, all we had were the TV spots and magazine articles telling us particularly crafted info, rarely anything personal. It's interesting to learn about these men and their lives years later.
RE: That was the best 30 for 30 they ever did.  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 11/8/2017 1:53 pm : link
In comment 13682033 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Flair is the greatest wrestler of all time, period. But he was obviously a very troubled man. I think alot of that came from being adopted and having a somewhat awkward relationship (which they highlighted last night) with his adopted parents. He never really knew who he was or where he really came from but still somehow, someway goes onto become the literal greatest of all time in his field. I mean, that's pretty fucking insane, if you ask me.

If you've followed wrestling over the past couple of decades or so, you know despite his persona, Flair has always had confidence issues. They highlight this and go in-depth on his confidence issues on his WWE-made documentary DVD that came out in 2008. They did a great job covering it.


The best 30 for 30 is the Two Escobars and it isn't even close.
The Two Escobars was very good, even for a soccer hater like me  
Greg from LI : 11/8/2017 1:54 pm : link
But Pony Excess was my favorite. Big time Texas football is like a giant insane asylum.
Once Brothers is my favorite  
moespree : 11/8/2017 2:03 pm : link
The Two Escobars a close second. 30 for 30 is really good and about the only thing worth watching on ESPN.
RE: RE: That was the best 30 for 30 they ever did.  
Enzo : 11/8/2017 2:07 pm : link
In comment 13682232 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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In comment 13682033 Dave in Hoboken said:


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Flair is the greatest wrestler of all time, period. But he was obviously a very troubled man. I think alot of that came from being adopted and having a somewhat awkward relationship (which they highlighted last night) with his adopted parents. He never really knew who he was or where he really came from but still somehow, someway goes onto become the literal greatest of all time in his field. I mean, that's pretty fucking insane, if you ask me.

If you've followed wrestling over the past couple of decades or so, you know despite his persona, Flair has always had confidence issues. They highlight this and go in-depth on his confidence issues on his WWE-made documentary DVD that came out in 2008. They did a great job covering it.



The best 30 for 30 is the Two Escobars and it isn't even close.

IMO Hillsborough was at least as good as the Escobar one.

Some of these 30 for 30s pretty much make themselves. "The U" was a good one, but it didn't require a lot of heavy lifting. Show some old footage...get the old players talking...and it's an interesting nostalgia piece at the very least. But Hillsborough and the Escobars are next level.
There's been a lot of good 30 for 30s...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/8/2017 2:14 pm : link
Some that stand out: Once Brothers, Pony Excess, The Best That Never Was, Bad Boys, Requiem for the Big East, & Elway to Marino. I'm sure I'm missing some.
I really enjoyed the Phi Slamma Jamma one too  
Greg from LI : 11/8/2017 2:18 pm : link
Such an exciting team with two legendary stars but couldn't quite get over the hump.
Requiem..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/8/2017 2:48 pm : link
if the Big East was an awesome 30 for 30, but I agree that the Two Escobars has been the best one.
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Route 9 : 11/8/2017 4:32 pm : link
Never got really the love for the Two Escobars on here. I don't know why, that one just bored the hell out of me. I think my favorite is the Steve Bartman one, lol. Some close ones would be the Buffalo Bills or the Duke Lacrosse scandal one. Or the OJ ones.

We knew Flair was always a train wreck but that's why people who watched wrestling had so much fun watching him and liked him. I'm glad that Jim Cornette (I think it was) said he was seen as "too old". Lol, I remember going to a WCW show in Philly in late 1998 and my friend was reading all of the matches on the program. He's says Scott Hall vs Ric Flair. I'm like say that again??? I thought he was old back and he hadn't wrestled since 1997 and I thought he was just done, then but he just kept going.

Still, even through that. He was wrestling for WWE in 2002, 2003...04..05...and retired in 08. Then went to TNA. Good God. And he still looked better than most of the young talent, took harder bumps than they did when he was in his 50s with that flabby skin lol
RE: .....  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 11/8/2017 4:45 pm : link
In comment 13682626 Route 9 said:
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Never got really the love for the Two Escobars on here. I don't know why, that one just bored the hell out of me. I think my favorite is the Steve Bartman one, lol. Some close ones would be the Buffalo Bills or the Duke Lacrosse scandal one. Or the OJ ones.

We knew Flair was always a train wreck but that's why people who watched wrestling had so much fun watching him and liked him. I'm glad that Jim Cornette (I think it was) said he was seen as "too old". Lol, I remember going to a WCW show in Philly in late 1998 and my friend was reading all of the matches on the program. He's says Scott Hall vs Ric Flair. I'm like say that again??? I thought he was old back and he hadn't wrestled since 1997 and I thought he was just done, then but he just kept going.

Still, even through that. He was wrestling for WWE in 2002, 2003...04..05...and retired in 08. Then went to TNA. Good God. And he still looked better than most of the young talent, took harder bumps than they did when he was in his 50s with that flabby skin lol


Think about how much better he could have been if he was off the sauce and took care of his body.
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Route 9 : 11/8/2017 5:17 pm : link
Who knows? Maybe we wouldn't have had the Ric Flair in the ring and on TV we know today without the booze, the need for attention. I mean he made it to nearly 70, but he looks like he's 170. It sucks for his family, but I was playing the worlds smallest violin for Ashley when she said she was left alone with her brother in $1 million mansion and threw parties. So sad.
I've been at 2 different airport restaurants  
Big Rick in FL : 11/8/2017 7:58 pm : link
While Flair was there. One in Alabama & one in Tampa. He bought the entire restaurant drinks. Struttin around like he does in the ring. I've heard horror stories about how much of an asshole he is, but he was very nice the few times I've met him. Granted he was hammered.
RE: I've been at 2 different airport restaurants  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/8/2017 8:10 pm : link
In comment 13682902 Big Rick in FL said:
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While Flair was there. One in Alabama & one in Tampa. He bought the entire restaurant drinks. Struttin around like he does in the ring. I've heard horror stories about how much of an asshole he is, but he was very nice the few times I've met him. Granted he was hammered.


'Granted he was hammered.' So @ least we know Flair is a friendly drunk.
In Charlotte...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/8/2017 9:08 pm : link
there are all kinds of stories about Flair, but few of them have him being an asshole.

Basically he was a drunk who wasted away millions on failed business deals and was out or on the road every night drinking, leaving his family basically fatherless.

He's a nice guy, nice enough to have borrowed a lot from friends and then stiff them, and even after being stiffed, guys don't look at him as being an asshole, they look at him as being a lonely alcoholic who wants to hang with strangers to cover for his drinking.
And while Charlotte..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/8/2017 9:12 pm : link
is a big city, you'd be hard pressed to find somebody from here or who has lived here for years who hasn't had personal contact with Flair.

I've been here since 94 and probably have been out in the same place as him 25 times, and that doesn't count the daily times I'd see him when he owned the Gold's Gym I worked out at.

The best times were when the wrestling events were in town and all the wrestlers would work out at the gym and just hang out.

Funniest scene was seeing Flair and Tully Blanchard on treadmills side by side talking on cellphones. The big brick ones!
I didn't really like it  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 11/9/2017 11:05 am : link
I mean I liked learning more about his life, but it was kind of just an interview. They didn't really capture the excitement of Rick Flair.
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