Ian Begley
ESPN Staff Writer
The Knicks have won back-to-back games when trailing by double digits entering the fourth quarter for the first time in the shot-clock era (since 1954-55), per Elias.
KP drops 28 points with 5 boards and 3 blocks and suddenly that's "meh" for him (stat line wise, and yet a franchise player level clutch showing from KP. The Knicks have been so bad while he was here he hasn't really had a chance to fhis "clutch" muscles too often. KP KP KP!. I don't actually expect him to win MVP this season but incredible how far he's come since last year where the perception was he didn't take a major step forward like many of us expected.
- Frank 3 points, 3 rebounds, 8 assists (wasn't Frank's best game and yet still contributed)
-KOQ 12 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 steal, 2 blocks (keep KOQ!!)
-THjr 19 and 5
-Lance Thomas 10 and 5, looked like the solid player we remember when he first burst on the scene for us
-Kaminsky was invisible
-Dotson, Beasley, Willy, Sessions DNPCD, could Beasley be the one to go?
-Monk 8/17 21, 2 and 3
Around the league-
GF...16-21 (that alone is absurd) 40 points, 9 boards, 3 assists, 4 blocks
Middleton 20 points, 11 assists, 7 boards, 3 steals (3 point shooting is down so far but guy is having a big time season)
Lebron 30, 8, 9 and 3 (ho hum, hope he's okay playing Pippen to KP's Jordan next year)
Boogie 32, 13 and 6
Holiday is so throughly average. I thank my lucky stars we weren't the ones to give him 127 million
DSJ (huge game) 22 points 8 rebounds, 8 assists (9-22), +15
Markkanen 12, 2 rebounds
Jokic 41, 12 and 5 (beast)
Simmons 16, 13, and 6, 3 steals, 3 blocks... star
Fox 5-10 10 points, 8 assists
Phil/Mills fucked us with regard to cap space in the short term - and they squandered the opportunity to do a proper rebuild around KP with regard to accumulating assets. So maybe it's not the worst idea in the world to keep some of these guys especially since many of them (Kanter, McDermott, KOQ) are still relatively young.
he hesitates a lot, it is almost like he is afraid to try and go get his
lee is tradeable and lance's 4th year is non guaranteed.
I think the Knicks could trade Lee and Willy in return for a solid 3. I wanted to trade Kanter earlier but he seems to work well with KP. I would like to see them extend O'Quinn for 3 years 25 million if that gets it done.
Absolutely. They need to trade him soon while he still has some value. They need to get a legitimate 3 so that TH can go back to his more natural position.
players are starting to take notice, paul tweeted yesterday: porzingis sheesh..
it is weird to have a player, young player that other players are noticing
The bench?
Likely KOQ.
Maybe McDermott.
Not bad.
Likely KOQ.
Maybe McDermott.
Not bad.
i am not trading either mcdermott or oquinn
But if not, he's a great trade chip to a contender and the way he's playing he could yield something like Patrick McCaw, DJ Wilson etc. if those teams have a need for a very good rotational big.
isnt mcdermott a young asset?
granted i am not paying him 15 million a year, but for the right price i am keeping him and oquinn
isnt mcdermott a young asset?
granted i am not paying him 15 million a year, but for the right price i am keeping him and oquinn
Problem is you don't know what the "right price" is until it's too late to get something for them.
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isnt mcdermott a young asset?
granted i am not paying him 15 million a year, but for the right price i am keeping him and oquinn
Problem is you don't know what the "right price" is until it's too late to get something for them.
but if this team is a playoff team (still to early to tell) you are not going to be trading off pkayers at the deadline, just not going to happen sends the wrong message to the players
willy for jabari..
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isnt mcdermott a young asset?
granted i am not paying him 15 million a year, but for the right price i am keeping him and oquinn
Problem is you don't know what the "right price" is until it's too late to get something for them.
but if this team is a playoff team (still to early to tell) you are not going to be trading off pkayers at the deadline, just not going to happen sends the wrong message to the players
there's a difference between playoff team and contender. They're not contending anytime soon so if selling off pieces makes the most sense then you do it. In the east, 35 wins might make you a "playoff team". That doesn't mean you turn down opportunities to clear redundant players and cap space and/or acquire young assets.
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love to be able to trust Jabari Parker (it's been suggested they may move him once he gets healthy). But he's the kind of guy we get giddy about and then he tears his ACL for the third time.
willy for jabari..
I would support this. Especially if we could package Lee as well. Jabari when healthy was balling out.
if the asset coming back is a good one then you seriously think about it. Our asset pile is pretty weak. If a star player came available - we don't have much to offer besides Wily...unless you want to start dealing off future first rounders, which nobody wants.
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Definitely Lee.
Likely KOQ.
Maybe McDermott.
Not bad.
i am not trading either mcdermott or oquinn
Agreed, these are quality role players on a good team. The KNicks have the bones to be that team. They need their young players to continue to get better and they need to add a little talent, but I'm not trading any of those guys at this point. Obviously the season can turn quickly and that thought can change, but as of now, no way.
As of right now I see KOQ and McBuckets as future pieces, and Kanter and Lee as trade bait.
And no way do we trade him atm. He helps KP's game immensely. He cleans up. Everyone rags on his defense but he is trying. As we all know, want-to and effort hides many warts one has athletically, on defense. And he's showing that effort in spades. (Also helps having a QB like Jack putting him in the right spots)
I don't want to see him go, I love his game. His rebounding (especially on the offensive side) gets us many second chance buckets. The chemistry we have right now is cause everyone is doing their part.
That's why I'm not looking forward to Noah's return. I don't want him to upset that balance. That fine line between winning and losing.
maybe the knicks were just what he needed
“That’s what he do,” Tim Hardaway Jr. added. “He gets buckets since he was born.”
Doug McDermott wasn’t just a fan favorite Tuesday night. He was also the toast of the Knicks’ locker room after he produced his best performance in blue and orange, scoring 20 points on just eight field-goal attempts and keying a come-from-behind 118-113 victory over the Hornets at the Garden on Tuesday night.
He's long for a 3, shoots spectacularly, moves without the ball, and plays pretty good defense. In fact, crazy as this may sound, right now, I think he is more valuable overall, all by himself, than Melo. His shooting percentage is spectacularly higher, and he isn't nearly as likely to get injured.
I really, really hope Hornacek doesn't mess up the chemistry they have going right now to get Noah minutes.
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I like McDermott but let's not get crazy. He's not much of a rebounder or passer - and he rarely gets to the line. I think he might get better, but there are some very real weaknesses in his game.
I said last night. McDermott should be getting Lee’s minutes and should be starting small forward
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Melo's PER according to ESPN is 16.98, and McDermott's is not far behind at 14.97. Only McDermott's will get better, and Melo simply get older. Plus, McDermott is a natural 3, and Melo is a tweener with disadvantages at both the 3 and 4. Can't guard 3's, and is a rebounding hindrance at the 4--and old.
I like McDermott but let's not get crazy. He's not much of a rebounder or passer - and he rarely gets to the line. I think he might get better, but there are some very real weaknesses in his game.
Breaking news: Melo is neither a good rebounder, nor willing passer or defender, and subpar effort and athleticism makes him a no-show in the transition game. NYK well just to unload him, but to get two productive players + a pick was extraordinary.