His opinion about Eli and his strong opinion on MacAdoo, both in the first 2 minutes of the video.
I especially think his opinion on MacAdoo is spot on.
Depending on what side of the fence you are on, watching for 2 minutes won't change your mind but.....
Give it at least 30seconds.
Terry Bradshaw on Eli Manning - (
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Regarding Eli, he certainly has a point, but QB's do age, and not all of them age well. If we're going into a total rebuild, I'm not sure it's fair to Eli to keep him around for it.
Whitworth.
Pugh.
Richburg/Jones.
Fluker.
Flowers.
Instead we signed Marshall, who was aging, and Ellison, who we hardly use.
Well, there are a lot of them here. That's for sure.
Oh bullshit. Seattle's line is even worse than the Giants but somehow Wilson is playing much better than Eli.
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Thank u Bradshaw, bout time someone broke it down so people can understand! It's not rocket science?! Any QB in this league under Eli's circumstances would completely look like shit and fail. It's just that simple..
Oh bullshit. Seattle's line is even worse than the Giants but somehow Wilson is playing much better than Eli.
Comparing Eli to Wilson is pointless, Wilson does his best work out of the pocket. In fact when teams have kept him bottled up in the pocket is when Seattle often loses.
The "Bench Eli" talk is coming up for one real reason - when the team has zero margin for error, every mistake the QB makes is going to get magnified. So Eli overthrows 2 deep balls, and suddenly it's all "Start Davis Webb!" If we were 7-1, and Eli was playing this way, you wouldn't hear a peep about benching him.
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Thank u Bradshaw, bout time someone broke it down so people can understand! It's not rocket science?! Any QB in this league under Eli's circumstances would completely look like shit and fail. It's just that simple..
Oh bullshit. Seattle's line is even worse than the Giants but somehow Wilson is playing much better than Eli.
McAdoo's 3 yards and a cloud of dust passing offense sucks. Manning's got to be beyond frustrated with this shit, especially because he's getting the blame for it.
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In comment 13682094 prdave73 said:
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Thank u Bradshaw, bout time someone broke it down so people can understand! It's not rocket science?! Any QB in this league under Eli's circumstances would completely look like shit and fail. It's just that simple..
Oh bullshit. Seattle's line is even worse than the Giants but somehow Wilson is playing much better than Eli.
Give him McAdoo's offense and see where Wilson lands. Manning has completed 1 less pass than Wilson on 4 less attempts but for 400 fewer yards. Wilson has completed 18 more 20+ yard throws and is averaging a yard and half more per pass.
McAdoo's 3 yards and a cloud of dust passing offense sucks. Manning's got to be beyond frustrated with this shit, especially because he's getting the blame for it.
yep. it sucks in GB too. That offense without Rodgers improvisational skills is a joke.
The facts are Eli has been in the top ten of qbs I believe twice in his career according to Qbr. Reasons being he feels the rush quicker than most and makes panicked throws. He’s also not terribly accurate when he has time. His throws are often behind the receiver or thrown to high. Reese talked about him being skittish in the pocket early in his career and they are still talking about that today. He is steady I give him that, A+ there. But on performance alone I give him a C.
There isn’t one good reason for Mcadoo not to have played Webb in the 4qtr of a blowout. And you can’t do much worse than 1-7 if you decided to bench him to see what you have in Webb before you invest in a possible #1 draft choice.
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And quite frankly, anyone that disagrees is a dipshit.
Well, there are a lot of them here. That's for sure.
Absolutely Britt....
Thats BS. How do you know it wasn’t Mara that didnt want to pay Whitworth after giving out big up front money to Vernon, Jack Rabbit, JPP, and Snacks?
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Thank u Bradshaw, bout time someone broke it down so people can understand! It's not rocket science?! Any QB in this league under Eli's circumstances would completely look like shit and fail. It's just that simple..
Oh bullshit. Seattle's line is even worse than the Giants but somehow Wilson is playing much better than Eli.
The Jets line is awful with lesser talent than the Giants. And McCown has looked better. But I think it’s because the bigger problem here is the coaching and this shitty scheme
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In comment 13682094 prdave73 said:
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Thank u Bradshaw, bout time someone broke it down so people can understand! It's not rocket science?! Any QB in this league under Eli's circumstances would completely look like shit and fail. It's just that simple..
Oh bullshit. Seattle's line is even worse than the Giants but somehow Wilson is playing much better than Eli.
The Jets line is awful with lesser talent than the Giants. And McCown has looked better. But I think it’s because the bigger problem here is the coaching and this shitty scheme
The Jets offensive line is better. To my eye McCown often has a serviceable pocket to ooeeate and they are able to run the ball.
The Jet defense is also better. I watch Jet games and think about what Eli would look like in green.
The Giants o line, particularly Hart, just straight up miss and let Eli take kill shots.
Yes he can not scramble, but he could not scramble since 2005.
The Jets are a better football team this season than the Giants, it is not even close. I
The OL was putrid for the first several games. They had no threat deep because Beckham was on one foot. They didn't utilize the TE's well at all. There was no run game to speak of. What is the correlation to all this? Coaching. Not once did he have his #1 WR healthy and the OL was so so bad vs. DAL and DET. Eli got rid of the ball in .6 seconds to alleviate the pass rush from Philly. They, again, had no run games. He put them in position to win in both the Eagles and Bucs games and the defense flopped, because it was not that good to begin with.
Yes, and I've posted this many times.
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for 5 games and didn't look very good.
The OL was putrid for the first several games. They had no threat deep because Beckham was on one foot. They didn't utilize the TE's well at all. There was no run game to speak of. What is the correlation to all this? Coaching. Not once did he have his #1 WR healthy and the OL was so so bad vs. DAL and DET. Eli got rid of the ball in .6 seconds to alleviate the pass rush from Philly. They, again, had no run games. He put them in position to win in both the Eagles and Bucs games and the defense flopped, because it was not that good to begin with.
Because when he's had time you can tell he's not the same player he once was. It's not like the WR's are dropping every pass and he has three guys in his face every single play.
His deep ball which was his strength isn't there anymore. He was never good enough at the intermediate stuff to compensate for losing his deep ball.
He's not part of the future, and it's imperative to see what Webb can do in a game before drafting top 5 in May.
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In comment 13682094 prdave73 said:
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Thank u Bradshaw, bout time someone broke it down so people can understand! It's not rocket science?! Any QB in this league under Eli's circumstances would completely look like shit and fail. It's just that simple..
Oh bullshit. Seattle's line is even worse than the Giants but somehow Wilson is playing much better than Eli.
Give him McAdoo's offense and see where Wilson lands. Manning has completed 1 less pass than Wilson on 4 less attempts but for 400 fewer yards. Wilson has completed 18 more 20+ yard throws and is averaging a yard and half more per pass.
McAdoo's 3 yards and a cloud of dust passing offense sucks. Manning's got to be beyond frustrated with this shit, especially because he's getting the blame for it.
yep. it sucks in GB too. That offense without Rodgers improvisational skills is a joke.
That’s what I’ve been trying to say this WCO is bullshit especially in New York only 8 Super Bowls won with this offense and the QBs were all top notch except for B Johnson the others were Montana Young Farve and Rogers and all those guys with the exception of Johnson were pretty mobile !
The facts are Eli has been in the top ten of qbs I believe twice in his career according to Qbr. Reasons being he feels the rush quicker than most and makes panicked throws. He’s also not terribly accurate when he has time. His throws are often behind the receiver or thrown to high. Reese talked about him being skittish in the pocket early in his career and they are still talking about that today. He is steady I give him that, A+ there. But on performance alone I give him a C.
There isn’t one good reason for Mcadoo not to have played Webb in the 4qtr of a blowout. And you can’t do much worse than 1-7 if you decided to bench him to see what you have in Webb before you invest in a possible #1 draft choice.
Right on #10*
Another video to agree or disagree with about Eli - ( New Window )
speaking of dipshits.
Gosh Les every time you post it's just more idiotic...
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You give any professional Qb a clean pocket and a running game and he should make completions. You give him 20 mill a year and he should stare down the barrel during the rush.
The facts are Eli has been in the top ten of qbs I believe twice in his career according to Qbr. Reasons being he feels the rush quicker than most and makes panicked throws. He’s also not terribly accurate when he has time. His throws are often behind the receiver or thrown to high. Reese talked about him being skittish in the pocket early in his career and they are still talking about that today. He is steady I give him that, A+ there. But on performance alone I give him a C.
There isn’t one good reason for Mcadoo not to have played Webb in the 4qtr of a blowout. And you can’t do much worse than 1-7 if you decided to bench him to see what you have in Webb before you invest in a possible #1 draft choice.
Right on #10*
You're agreeing he gets a C for performance...
Did they allow all the loons out today?
"Eli a product of the issues around him"
That also includes Head coach, GM, and coaching staff which the Giants are lacking bad right now. Like I always say too, Brady is a product of the system.
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And the fact he brought up Whitworth is, even more, evidence of failure from the GM
Thats BS. How do you know it wasn’t Mara that didnt want to pay Whitworth after giving out big up front money to Vernon, Jack Rabbit, JPP, and Snacks?
Because your buddy Reese himself stated that LT was not an option for anyone they brought in. As much as you slather on his nuts you should have known that
I don't think benching Eli fixes anything. I'm in favor of giving some playing time to Webb not because I think Eli deserves to be "benched" or because I expect a better outcome. It's because we have some time now to evaluate a guy who should factor into this team's plans in the future. Tough to know enough about Webb if they aren't going to give him any snaps either in practice or in games.
Crazy to think Manning is declining and the coaching sucks isn't it?
Even crazier both those things continue to be true even as the line and running game have improved greatly.