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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 10:48 am
Keep or ban Slade?
Keep
Ban
build quizzes
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RE: Not quite.  
ron mexico : 11/9/2017 6:04 pm : link
In comment 13683918 Keith said:
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It's like saying U2 won't play Woodstock with Milli Vanilli AFTER it becamse public that they lip sinc.


Umm no it not, they are not working together in any way shape or form. Nor does it appear that they are.

And the Ron Mexico band fucking rocks!
I voted to keep him around  
GeorgeAdams33 : 11/9/2017 6:09 pm : link
Where is the glovedone and which Tuesday is big Tuesday?
When  
mrvax : 11/9/2017 6:14 pm : link
does the poll close?
I abstain.  
KerrysFlask : 11/9/2017 6:25 pm : link
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.. But he sucks... For the record.  
KerrysFlask : 11/9/2017 6:26 pm : link
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what's cool about this is that April fools day  
micky : 11/9/2017 6:29 pm : link
is open house now
I don't know this is kind of funny on this thread  
Route 9 : 11/9/2017 6:45 pm : link
More entertaining than any training camp report

Lol Shep is back! We needed you off the IR
Wow, so many votes.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/9/2017 6:47 pm : link
Finally, a democracy that works!
It has been said many times that BBI is a community.  
Marty in Albany : 11/9/2017 6:49 pm : link
It is good to be in this community–many would say, it is a privilege. But what does our community really consist of?

Basically, it consists of words. Only words. Words that can make us think happy thoughts or angry ones–words that keep us well informed, and in touch with the rest of the world.

If the words are sometimes mistaken--made in error, that can be forgiven. Nobody is perfect. But as a community we rely on the words to be well intended and factually true, or to be a true expression of a poster’s opinion.

Words that are intentional lies have no place in a community that consists only of words and where all we have to rely on are words.
RE: Wow, so many votes.  
AnnapolisMike : 11/9/2017 6:50 pm : link
In comment 13684156 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Finally, a democracy that works!


Except many voted multiple times committing voting fraud.
RE: RE: Wow, so many votes.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/9/2017 6:51 pm : link
In comment 13684161 AnnapolisMike said:
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In comment 13684156 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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Finally, a democracy that works!



Except many voted multiple times committing voting fraud.


Art imitating life.
RE: Was a poll responsible for insiders being called asshats on here?  
Milton : 11/9/2017 7:06 pm : link
Yes.
Question for Eric  
JohnF : 11/9/2017 7:07 pm : link
We have options for Football Topics and Non Football Topics when we post. Why not either a) Create a new "Rumors" tag, so that those people who want to see those posts can check them out, or b) Assign a permanent sticky for "Rumors", and set up rules so that people who want to post "inside information" without a linked source (like Slade) would have to post in that section, and not on the main topic area?

A lot of the outrage here is that people can post "insider" stuff in the main Football topic area, and it's almost impossible to tell if they are trolling, or have real information that may or may not come out the way they posted it. A "Rumors" sticky would avoid that (with the help of the Mods, who could educate new asshats, and discipline those who are abusing it).

It would also make the board a bit friendlier for those "insiders" who like to share information, as there's no reason to attack someone posting in a "Rumors" sticky.
RE: Question for Eric  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/9/2017 7:13 pm : link
In comment 13684194 JohnF said:
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We have options for Football Topics and Non Football Topics when we post. Why not either a) Create a new "Rumors" tag, so that those people who want to see those posts can check them out, or b) Assign a permanent sticky for "Rumors", and set up rules so that people who want to post "inside information" without a linked source (like Slade) would have to post in that section, and not on the main topic area?

A lot of the outrage here is that people can post "insider" stuff in the main Football topic area, and it's almost impossible to tell if they are trolling, or have real information that may or may not come out the way they posted it. A "Rumors" sticky would avoid that (with the help of the Mods, who could educate new asshats, and discipline those who are abusing it).

It would also make the board a bit friendlier for those "insiders" who like to share information, as there's no reason to attack someone posting in a "Rumors" sticky.


I like this idea. I wonder how difficult it would be to implement.
RE: ...  
Jay in Toronto : 11/9/2017 7:36 pm : link
In comment 13683949 Eric from BBI said:
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One of our cats also seems amused. He won't get away from my screen.


Which way did your cat vote???
RE: RE: Wow, so many votes.  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/9/2017 8:06 pm : link
In comment 13684161 AnnapolisMike said:
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In comment 13684156 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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Finally, a democracy that works!



Except many voted multiple times committing voting fraud.

Those two voting spikes sure are interesting, both when "keep" was way behind.
Cats vote on more important things...  
JohnF : 11/9/2017 8:35 pm : link
So now we know who's been running BBI  
Modus Operandi : 11/9/2017 8:39 pm : link
The last two years.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 9:07 pm : link
Cat was more interested in mouse pointer. I think he thought this poll was stupid.

As of 9:08PM, it looks like more people want him to stay. I was sure he was toast.
Not suspicious at all.  
guitarguybs12 : 11/9/2017 9:11 pm : link
RE: Not suspicious at all.  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/9/2017 9:20 pm : link
In comment 13684331 guitarguybs12 said:
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Seriously. The rest of the voting through the day was pretty steady (and was trending toward ban) - in the afternoon, ban started to pull away and then there was a sudden spike in keep. Then the evening spike to put keep over the top? It's odd.
Hahahhahaha  
Route 9 : 11/9/2017 9:25 pm : link
Shame on you 2017 Giants. This is way more exciting than taking about the likes of Flowers, Apple and shitty football.
Hmmmm  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 9:26 pm : link
that spike is VERY suspicious.

When I last checked, he was losing. I was actually coming on to ban him and checked one more time and was surprised he pulled ahead.
Eric  
mrvax : 11/9/2017 9:34 pm : link
Can you view the IP addresses of the votes? I know it should be limited to only 1 per but...
Make a new poll  
spike : 11/9/2017 9:35 pm : link
. And bookmark it up to the top of the forum
RE: Make a new poll  
mrvax : 11/9/2017 9:38 pm : link
In comment 13684357 spike said:
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. And bookmark it up to the top of the forum


Spike, you can't. It's called double jeopardy.
Everyone who wanted him banned are  
Diver_Down : 11/9/2017 9:41 pm : link
just pouting that they didn't get their pound of flesh. Look, Eric put it to a vote and set the deadline for 8PM. He can certainly respect the outcome of the poll or he can disregard it entirely. His site - His rules. But don't be upset because you didn't get the results that you wanted.
hmm  
madhatter9382 : 11/9/2017 9:48 pm : link
i dont care either way but did he break any actual rules?
.  
arcarsenal : 11/9/2017 9:51 pm : link
LOL, cmon, that spike is so obvious.

Am I allowed to make a joke about Russians hacking the poll?

(If not, I take it back)
There should be an episode  
bigbluehoya : 11/9/2017 9:53 pm : link
Of Black Mirror about this place.

The troll is powerless if you ignore him. And everybody knows it, but for some reason nobody can help themselves, and they waste immense amounts of time bitching about the troll and trying to make it go away.

And the troll flourishes.
RE: hmm  
Diver_Down : 11/9/2017 9:54 pm : link
In comment 13684368 madhatter9382 said:
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i dont care either way but did he break any actual rules?


Why are you presuming "he" break any rules? Eric set up the poll to only allow a single vote from a single IP. Sure you could vote from multiple devices, but the poll didn't count multiple votes from the same device. One of the last screens on the poll allowed you to share the poll. It could easily have been shared on someone's facebook feed imploring friends to vote keep. Nothing against the rule. BBI isn't some secret outpost on the interweb.
RE: hmm  
mrvax : 11/9/2017 9:55 pm : link
In comment 13684368 madhatter9382 said:
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i dont care either way but did he break any actual rules?


I know you can't post up BS news like "Hall Signs!!!" etc. However, this was posted as asshat info which Slade has been woefully lacking this year (Hankins re-sign)..
RE: It has been said many times that BBI is a community.  
christian : 11/9/2017 9:57 pm : link
In comment 13684158 Marty in Albany said:
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It is good to be in this community–many would say, it is a privilege. But what does our community really consist of?

Basically, it consists of words. Only words. Words that can make us think happy thoughts or angry ones–words that keep us well informed, and in touch with the rest of the world.

If the words are sometimes mistaken--made in error, that can be forgiven. Nobody is perfect. But as a community we rely on the words to be well intended and factually true, or to be a true expression of a poster’s opinion.

Words that are intentional lies have no place in a community that consists only of words and where all we have to rely on are words.


Brilliant.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 10:18 pm : link
This was my thought process earlier today:

- Cvic/Slade was about a 0.700 asshat poster a few years ago, including some really obscure stuff.

- When he started batting 0.000, his previous history provided him with cover.

- But his postings has become more frequent and spectacularly false... not even close.

- There has been a long-standing rule on BBI to not deliberately post misleading info. Hence my posts yesterday about him not being long for this site. (Latest rumor being his final shot).

- I started this poll more to show folks that support for banning slade was not as dominant as believed, but I still expected him to lose. (I couldn't believe we were at 50/50 for the bulk of the day).

- Now the result shows him staying and even though there are holes in online polling, my dilemma is whether or not to respect the result (influenced by the fact there is a weird spike in votes) or go with my original instinct.

Now I see why my cat thought the poll idea was stupid.
Keep him until  
spike : 11/9/2017 10:21 pm : link
He fails miserable in the upcoming HC and GM searches
.  
arcarsenal : 11/9/2017 10:26 pm : link
Personally, I voted to ban him just because it's obvious what he's doing at this point - but I honestly don't care that much where I'd be outraged if he stays. No one is going to take him seriously. He's just going to turn into the next EliteMob where every thread is a trainwreck.

It's obvious that the poll was compromised somehow so it's a double-edged sword. You probably should respect the result of it - but it's hard to do that when it was pretty clearly tampered with somehow.

I will say that he's not plastered all over the board so it's not like an obnoxious poster that is on 9 out of every 10 threads bothering people. He doesn't really bother me, it's just clear that he has no reliable connection at this point (it doesn't seem like he has any at all) so none of his threads can be taken seriously and will just continue to be what they've turned into.

There are posters who are far more annoying than Slade is.

I'd say go with your gut. The board will go on with or without him.
...  
christian : 11/9/2017 10:30 pm : link
It would be awesome to know how he either spectaculaly gussed right on a number of things, or how someone who once new something has turned totally loco.
RE: .  
mrvax : 11/9/2017 10:35 pm : link
In comment 13684397 arcarsenal said:
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Personally, I voted to ban him just because it's obvious what he's doing at this point - but I honestly don't care that much where I'd be outraged if he stays. No one is going to take him seriously. He's just going to turn into the next EliteMob where every thread is a trainwreck.

It's obvious that the poll was compromised somehow so it's a double-edged sword. You probably should respect the result of it - but it's hard to do that when it was pretty clearly tampered with somehow.

I will say that he's not plastered all over the board so it's not like an obnoxious poster that is on 9 out of every 10 threads bothering people. He doesn't really bother me, it's just clear that he has no reliable connection at this point (it doesn't seem like he has any at all) so none of his threads can be taken seriously and will just continue to be what they've turned into.

There are posters who are far more annoying than Slade is.

I'd say go with your gut. The board will go on with or without him.


Nice post, arc.
RE: Hmmmm  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/9/2017 11:28 pm : link
In comment 13684348 Eric from BBI said:
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that spike is VERY suspicious.

When I last checked, he was losing. I was actually coming on to ban him and checked one more time and was surprised he pulled ahead.

Adding to the suspicious nature of that spike, his most recent thread came immediately after it if you follow the timestamps.
I still want to know what happened to Anak?  
short lease : 11/10/2017 1:05 am : link
How come flat out bans for looooong time posters? Maybe people made honest mistakes? Is there a warning system at all?

Limited bans? They can come back in a month and then permanent? I mean who hasn't posted something stupid here when or while they were drunk? Unless they are obvious trolls - just looking for trouble ...

I know, we are all adults and that would be like baby sitting ...
It is close .... 52 - 48 he stays.  
short lease : 11/10/2017 1:10 am : link
Not sure why folks get so annoyed with him - seems harmless.
RE: ...  
Stan in LA : 11/10/2017 1:37 am : link
In comment 13684388 Eric from BBI said:
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This was my thought process earlier today:

- Cvic/Slade was about a 0.700 asshat poster a few years ago, including some really obscure stuff.

- When he started batting 0.000, his previous history provided him with cover.

- But his postings has become more frequent and spectacularly false... not even close.

- There has been a long-standing rule on BBI to not deliberately post misleading info. Hence my posts yesterday about him not being long for this site. (Latest rumor being his final shot).

- I started this poll more to show folks that support for banning slade was not as dominant as believed, but I still expected him to lose. (I couldn't believe we were at 50/50 for the bulk of the day).

- Now the result shows him staying and even though there are holes in online polling, my dilemma is whether or not to respect the result (influenced by the fact there is a weird spike in votes) or go with my original instinct.

Now I see why my cat thought the poll idea was stupid.


So you didn't like the poll results so you are taking matters into your own hands. Not very honest if you ask me.
RE: RE: ...  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/10/2017 1:58 am : link
In comment 13684474 Stan in LA said:
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In comment 13684388 Eric from BBI said:


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This was my thought process earlier today:

- Cvic/Slade was about a 0.700 asshat poster a few years ago, including some really obscure stuff.

- When he started batting 0.000, his previous history provided him with cover.

- But his postings has become more frequent and spectacularly false... not even close.

- There has been a long-standing rule on BBI to not deliberately post misleading info. Hence my posts yesterday about him not being long for this site. (Latest rumor being his final shot).

- I started this poll more to show folks that support for banning slade was not as dominant as believed, but I still expected him to lose. (I couldn't believe we were at 50/50 for the bulk of the day).

- Now the result shows him staying and even though there are holes in online polling, my dilemma is whether or not to respect the result (influenced by the fact there is a weird spike in votes) or go with my original instinct.

Now I see why my cat thought the poll idea was stupid.



So you didn't like the poll results so you are taking matters into your own hands. Not very honest if you ask me.

WTF are you talking about? His account is still active. It's like you go seriously go out of your way to be wrong.
RE: RE: RE: ...  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/10/2017 1:59 am : link
In comment 13684482 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 13684474 Stan in LA said:


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In comment 13684388 Eric from BBI said:


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This was my thought process earlier today:

- Cvic/Slade was about a 0.700 asshat poster a few years ago, including some really obscure stuff.

- When he started batting 0.000, his previous history provided him with cover.

- But his postings has become more frequent and spectacularly false... not even close.

- There has been a long-standing rule on BBI to not deliberately post misleading info. Hence my posts yesterday about him not being long for this site. (Latest rumor being his final shot).

- I started this poll more to show folks that support for banning slade was not as dominant as believed, but I still expected him to lose. (I couldn't believe we were at 50/50 for the bulk of the day).

- Now the result shows him staying and even though there are holes in online polling, my dilemma is whether or not to respect the result (influenced by the fact there is a weird spike in votes) or go with my original instinct.

Now I see why my cat thought the poll idea was stupid.



So you didn't like the poll results so you are taking matters into your own hands. Not very honest if you ask me.


WTF are you talking about? His account is still active. It's like you go seriously go out of your way to be wrong.

*Disregard either "go" that you prefer.
If you don't like Slade, don't read his posts  
Vanzetti : 11/10/2017 2:44 am : link
I actually don't read most of what he posts.

But people who seriously wanted him banned? Wow. No wonder the world is so fucked up. You want to ban someone you could just ignore.

This is why this place has started  
chopperhatch : 11/10/2017 3:02 am : link
to suck. People are hanging on this guy's every word even tho he has consistently been wrong for 2 years.
RE: This is why this place has started  
short lease : 11/10/2017 7:11 am : link
In comment 13684492 chopperhatch said:
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to suck. People are hanging on this guy's every word even tho he has consistently been wrong for 2 years.


Who are these people? I don't believe anything I hear ... (and only about 1/2 of what I see).

I don't think anybody here hangs onto his every word - especially with his record lately. Most of the stuff Slade says seems obvious anyway. He's harmless.
RE: RE: This is why this place has started  
micky : 11/10/2017 9:54 am : link
In comment 13684522 short lease said:
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In comment 13684492 chopperhatch said:


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to suck. People are hanging on this guy's every word even tho he has consistently been wrong for 2 years.



Who are these people? I don't believe anything I hear ... (and only about 1/2 of what I see).

I don't think anybody here hangs onto his every word - especially with his record lately. Most of the stuff Slade says seems obvious anyway. He's harmless.


people are gullable and are Darwin Award winners..lol
RE: If you don't like Slade, don't read his posts  
arcarsenal : 11/10/2017 10:12 am : link
In comment 13684488 Vanzetti said:
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I actually don't read most of what he posts.

But people who seriously wanted him banned? Wow. No wonder the world is so fucked up. You want to ban someone you could just ignore.


I think you have to ask what purpose he serves at this point.

If the only thing a guy is doing here is posting fake inside info and doing it for nothing but attention, he's not bringing anything to this place.

I don't think posters should ever get banned just because they share nuggets they hear that turns out to be false - but it's pretty clear the guy is just trolling the board at this point.

Like I said in an earlier post - he doesn't bother me enough for me to be truly affected one way or another, just not really sure if there's any point in it being a "Slade being Slade..." situation. No one takes any of his threads seriously anymore. So, every one he starts is just going to be a pile on.
Gatorade,  
oldog : 11/10/2017 10:35 am : link
nice to know that you followed up. Your first reply implied quite clearly that the First Amendment applied only when the restriction on speech or freedom of the press involved the imprisonment of the speaker. It is apparent that you now concede that this is not the case. The jurisprudence does not yet clearly specify that the control of speech in private media, particularly the now dominant electronic media, will be directly controlled by the application of first amendment principles. My post was brief and to the point, and was intended to remind voters that freedom of speech is an important principle, and that media control should always err on the side of freedom of expression. It was just a reminder to BBI voters that such freedom is fundamental and if there was no harm in what Slade had posted, voters could consider his posts as being amusing and harmless. Of course, a rationally supported ban would be quite appropriate, and if a clear rule was violated eminently justified. Obviously, subject of course to the possible heavy voting irregularity, a good number of those who voted felt that erring on the side of freedom of expression was justified. While I agree with this, I question whether BBI might profit from a stronger ban on contemptuous, ad hominem, and similarly uninformed attacks.
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