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DanMetroMan : 11/9/2017 1:04 pm
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For weeks the NYT has been prepping a story about Louis CK and calling everyone in the comedy world and Hollywood, my sources have received calls...it appears that story will be published soon. Per @THR the premiere for his movie has been cancelled.
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RE: What is the list of people where you will be devastated at this point  
Mr. Bungle : 11/9/2017 3:43 pm : link
In comment 13683874 tbonfig said:
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if they turn out to be guilty of inappropriate things:

Tom Hanks
George Clooney

?

George Clooney is a piece of shit. He mocked Charlton Heston for having Alzheimer's. Then he refused to apologize.

You can already cross him off the list.
Tom Hanks  
PaulBlakeTSU : 11/9/2017 3:45 pm : link
would be crushing. Everything I've heard about him in real life (third-hand) indicates that he's a great guy to match his on-screen personas.

I like Matt Damon a lot and so his complicity in Harvey Weinstein and Casey Affleck allegations were disappointing to say the least.

Mr.  
DanMetroMan : 11/9/2017 3:48 pm : link
Rogers would be pretty disappointing. Jim Henson too.
Mr. Rogers would be the only one that would truly surprise me  
jcn56 : 11/9/2017 3:50 pm : link
I'm a cynic - I don't know any of these people personally so I wouldn't be surprised to learn that everything about them that I know is a lie and that they're terrible human beings...


...except for Rogers. Everything I've read and seen says he was a truly remarkable individual, and I'd have a real hard time processing him being a lowlife POS in private.
Mixed emotions  
adamg : 11/9/2017 3:54 pm : link
Glad that these accusations are coming out, but really ambivalent over the fact they've stayed hidden for so long. It makes you question how fucked up things have been and for how long. They need to put these guys in jail. Despicable behavior.
RE: I'm not surprised that Louis CK  
ron mexico : 11/9/2017 3:55 pm : link
In comment 13683866 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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is a perv. A lot of his comedy explores his own perverted thoughts.

The stories about him in the NY Times piece are gross and perverted.

Incident 1: asked two women if he could whip it out and masturbate. They said yes, thinking he was joking. He was not joking.

Incident 2: Masturbated over the phone while talking to a woman. I think this is the worst one.

Incident 3: Asked a woman if they could go to his dressing room so he could masturbate in front of her. She said no, he didn't and said he had issues.

Incident 4: Asked a woman if she would watch him masturbate. She agreed.

Again, it's all gross and perverted. He made the women feel uncomfortable and owes them all apologies. Per the article, he reached out to Incident 2 and Incident 3 later on and did apologize for his behavior, though one of them was for the wrong thing.

I guess my point in all this is to separate him from some of these other people being discussed in the news. He didn't expose himself to a woman who said no when he asked if he could, and there are no accusations that he ever laid a hand on any of them, or coerced them into having sex with him, etc.

I think the biggest harm in all of this is if people affiliated with him in powerful positions leaned on these women to stay quiet and that their careers were potentially derailed by not wanting to work near or with people linked with him.

But I think it's a far different situation than cases like Weinstein, Toback, Bryan Singer, Cosby, etc.


Maybe I'm a perve but Honestly, those don't sound that bad at all. He asked permission every time and when they said no he didn't do it.

wrong neighborhood  
Banks : 11/9/2017 3:55 pm : link
RE: RE: I'm not surprised that Louis CK  
Mad Mike : 11/9/2017 3:56 pm : link
In comment 13683927 ron mexico said:
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Maybe I'm a perve but Honestly, those don't sound that bad at all. He asked permission every time and when they said no he didn't do it.

Umm, the very first one listed is an instance of the women saying no and him doing it anyway.
RE: RE: I'm not surprised that Louis CK  
wonderback : 11/9/2017 4:07 pm : link
In comment 13683927 ron mexico said:
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In comment 13683866 PaulBlakeTSU said:


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is a perv. A lot of his comedy explores his own perverted thoughts.

The stories about him in the NY Times piece are gross and perverted.

Incident 1: asked two women if he could whip it out and masturbate. They said yes, thinking he was joking. He was not joking.

Incident 2: Masturbated over the phone while talking to a woman. I think this is the worst one.

Incident 3: Asked a woman if they could go to his dressing room so he could masturbate in front of her. She said no, he didn't and said he had issues.

Incident 4: Asked a woman if she would watch him masturbate. She agreed.

Again, it's all gross and perverted. He made the women feel uncomfortable and owes them all apologies. Per the article, he reached out to Incident 2 and Incident 3 later on and did apologize for his behavior, though one of them was for the wrong thing.

I guess my point in all this is to separate him from some of these other people being discussed in the news. He didn't expose himself to a woman who said no when he asked if he could, and there are no accusations that he ever laid a hand on any of them, or coerced them into having sex with him, etc.

I think the biggest harm in all of this is if people affiliated with him in powerful positions leaned on these women to stay quiet and that their careers were potentially derailed by not wanting to work near or with people linked with him.

But I think it's a far different situation than cases like Weinstein, Toback, Bryan Singer, Cosby, etc.




Maybe I'm a perve but Honestly, those don't sound that bad at all. He asked permission every time and when they said no he didn't do it.


I hope your fuckin kidding. Geez.
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ron mexico : 11/9/2017 4:09 pm : link
In comment 13683932 Mad Mike said:
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Maybe I'm a perve but Honestly, those don't sound that bad at all. He asked permission every time and when they said no he didn't do it.



Umm, the very first one listed is an instance of the women saying no and him doing it anyway.


Incident 1: asked two women if he could whip it out and masturbate. They said yes, thinking he was joking. He was not joking.

It pretty clearly states they said yes. Or at least gave visual signs to that effect.
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BlackLight : 11/9/2017 4:12 pm : link
In comment 13683894 Mr. Bungle said:
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if they turn out to be guilty of inappropriate things:

Tom Hanks
George Clooney

?


George Clooney is a piece of shit. He mocked Charlton Heston for having Alzheimer's. Then he refused to apologize.

You can already cross him off the list.


FWIW, Clooney did say he sent a letter of apology to Heston before he died, and got a "really nice letter" back from his wife - who is still alive and could refute that if it weren't true.
Louis CK  
PaulBlakeTSU : 11/9/2017 4:15 pm : link
should have been slapped in the face every time he even asked these women if he could do that in front of them because it is a perverted request, especially to these women that he didn't have any kind of close relationship with. He's a deviant.

But him asking to masturbate in front of these women and then doing it to the women that said (or gestured) yes and apologizing for asking to the woman who said now is in a different stratosphere from what these other men are being accused of: inappropriately touching women, coercing them into sex, or raping them.
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jcn56 : 11/9/2017 4:15 pm : link
In comment 13683957 ron mexico said:
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In comment 13683927 ron mexico said:


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Maybe I'm a perve but Honestly, those don't sound that bad at all. He asked permission every time and when they said no he didn't do it.



Umm, the very first one listed is an instance of the women saying no and him doing it anyway.



Incident 1: asked two women if he could whip it out and masturbate. They said yes, thinking he was joking. He was not joking.

It pretty clearly states they said yes. Or at least gave visual signs to that effect.


And even if he did ask permission - he's usually doing it to a subordinate. Someone who relies on him for their livelihood, or someone whose livelihood could be compromised if they said no.

Now - if he had asked the woman out to dinner and she said no, and felt that she was pressured, it'd be a completely different story.
Did he blackball the one woman who said no?  
ron mexico : 11/9/2017 4:22 pm : link
Stop her from advancing her career?

Sounds to me, from the limited information I have that he's looking for consensual partners for his specific fetish. Nothing wrong with that in and of itself.
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BrettNYG10 : 11/9/2017 4:27 pm : link

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RE: Did he blackball the one woman who said no?  
BlackLight : 11/9/2017 4:31 pm : link
In comment 13683975 ron mexico said:
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Stop her from advancing her career?

Sounds to me, from the limited information I have that he's looking for consensual partners for his specific fetish. Nothing wrong with that in and of itself.


Except that we don't examine something like this "in and of itself."

He can be into scat play, for all I care. The point is, there's a way to go about finding consensual partners for your specific kink. And it's not like this. And he has to know that.
RE: Did he blackball the one woman who said no?  
pjcas18 : 11/9/2017 4:35 pm : link
In comment 13683975 ron mexico said:
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Stop her from advancing her career?

Sounds to me, from the limited information I have that he's looking for consensual partners for his specific fetish. Nothing wrong with that in and of itself.


holy shit dude, there is nothing ok about this in any shape or form. I guess there always has to be one person to play the role of contrarian but this isn't the hill you want to die on.
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Mr. Bungle : 11/9/2017 4:41 pm : link
In comment 13683963 BlackLight said:
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FWIW, Clooney did say he sent a letter of apology to Heston before he died, and got a "really nice letter" back from his wife - who is still alive and could refute that if it weren't true.

That's good to know. I still wouldn't put Clooney anywhere near the top of this kind of list, though, just based on some other things about him.

I don't believe he's done anything like assault or harassment. I just think he's got a dickhead streak to him that he doesn't hide very well.
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tbonfig : 11/9/2017 4:59 pm : link
In comment 13684004 Mr. Bungle said:
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FWIW, Clooney did say he sent a letter of apology to Heston before he died, and got a "really nice letter" back from his wife - who is still alive and could refute that if it weren't true.


That's good to know. I still wouldn't put Clooney anywhere near the top of this kind of list, though, just based on some other things about him.

I don't believe he's done anything like assault or harassment. I just think he's got a dickhead streak to him that he doesn't hide very well.


Crazy, I have the exact opposite impression of him through all of his humanitarian work
RE: Did he blackball the one woman who said no?  
jcn56 : 11/9/2017 5:10 pm : link
In comment 13683975 ron mexico said:
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Stop her from advancing her career?

Sounds to me, from the limited information I have that he's looking for consensual partners for his specific fetish. Nothing wrong with that in and of itself.


It doesn't have it stop her from advancing. I would say the level of impropriety goes with how familiar they were with one another, and whether they had an existing professional relationship.

Obviously, it's not as bad as physically forcing yourself on someone (although I'm sure there's some mental damage imparted on someone who has to sit and unwillingly participate here too). But using your position as leverage to try to get someone to conduct sexual acts they'd rather not do is unacceptable.

RE: Not to judge parents of child actors  
BMac : 11/9/2017 6:07 pm : link
In comment 13683864 djm said:
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But parents of child actors are out of their fucking minds for pushing or allowing their kid to venture into this underworld of depravity.

Which establishment falls harder? The NFL or Hollywood?


Actually, Congress.
Dear Louis and Roy  
GentleGiant : 11/9/2017 8:07 pm : link
Thank You.

-Charlie Sheen
Clooney is like DiCaprio or Jeter  
UConn4523 : 11/9/2017 8:18 pm : link
has a list longer than any of us can imagine but is likely all consensual and of age women. Theres plenty of actors that I don't think would do this, but they are all going to get a bad name for a while.
RE: Not to make light of a very serious  
EricJ : 11/9/2017 8:21 pm : link
In comment 13683709 pjcas18 said:
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situation, but I bet there would be a decent market for a sexual misconduct version of a "dead pool" where people could bet on which celebrity is next.

It's like flood gates are open (and they should be - if reports are true), though it seems like this climate is ripe for someone innocent to be swept up in all the allegations.

lastly, there are some weird dudes in hollywood and politics.


I am going with Tom Cruise and John Travolta
just like  
Les in TO : 11/9/2017 8:35 pm : link
after Michael Richards went on his racist rant, Louis CK will be done after this in terms of mainstream big money gigs.
What is the point of an apology in these circumstances?  
mattlawson : 11/9/2017 8:44 pm : link
Honestly. And what should happen to CK? Sick and twisted is not that big of a shocker in Hollywood clearly. Inappropriate, disgusting, perverted - yes. Doubt it will be illegal.

The politician and 14 year old is totally different and if true that guy should go to jail.
RE: What is the point of an apology in these circumstances?  
BlackLight : 11/9/2017 9:07 pm : link
In comment 13684307 mattlawson said:
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Honestly. And what should happen to CK? Sick and twisted is not that big of a shocker in Hollywood clearly. Inappropriate, disgusting, perverted - yes. Doubt it will be illegal.

The politician and 14 year old is totally different and if true that guy should go to jail.


The fact that Louis CK hasn't made any sort of statement yet might mean he's learned the Spacey lesson - Don't get your apology out in front of the coming niagara of allegations from other women.
HBO  
Mr. Nickels : 11/9/2017 9:15 pm : link
removed all louis ck content. Isn't that a bit too far?
RE: HBO  
BlackLight : 11/9/2017 9:27 pm : link
In comment 13684335 Mr. Nickels said:
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removed all louis ck content. Isn't that a bit too far?


I don't think so. They can always put it back later.
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Banks : 11/9/2017 9:28 pm : link
Was his show worth watching?
Him apologizing for shoving a woman in the bathroom (to the wrong  
BrettNYG10 : 11/9/2017 9:34 pm : link
Woman) suggests there might be worse stuff out there.
RE: What is the list of people where you will be devastated at this point  
SomeFan : 11/9/2017 11:37 pm : link
In comment 13683874 tbonfig said:
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if they turn out to be guilty of inappropriate things:

Tom Hanks
George Clooney

?


Devastated? That strikes me as completely overboard for a normal person.
Jimmy Swaggert  
Modus Operandi : 11/10/2017 12:03 am : link
Rush Limbaugh, Newt Gingrich, Elliot Spitzer, Trey Radel, Vito Fossela, Strom Thurmond, etc.

I'be seen enough of these blowhards and hypocrites get their comeuppance in my life. No one would surprise or devastate me.

I'm a Louis CK fan, and while he doesn't belong in the among the aforementioned list of shitheel hypocrites, what's alleged is awful. Disappointing? Yes. Devastating? Heck no.
Louis C.K. put out a statement.  
Mr. Bungle : 11/10/2017 1:32 pm : link
"These stories are true."
Full statement:  
Mr. Bungle : 11/10/2017 1:33 pm : link
in addition to the trauma  
well...bye TC : 11/10/2017 1:56 pm : link
the victims suffer for life, what doesnt get much copy is all of the other performers and crew who lose jobs and income when these sick fuckstains are outed. There may be minimal insurance for some, but when a plug is puled on a production many people are SOL. Some perv wiggles his dick and the caterer makeup artist stylist etc all of a sudden cant pay the rent. Fuck these narcissists.
If nothing else  
Modus Operandi : 11/10/2017 2:09 pm : link
Have to give him some credit for owning this. More than you can say about some presidents (past and present) and a certain senatorial candidate. Not to mention the loads of executives in the private sector who've undoubtedly had their way with women -willing or not - over the last century.
If I'm reading that correctly  
BigBlue4You09 : 11/10/2017 2:27 pm : link
The woman agreed to let him take his junk out?
RE: Jimmy Swaggert  
njm : 11/10/2017 2:27 pm : link
In comment 13684443 Modus Operandi said:
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Rush Limbaugh, Newt Gingrich, Elliot Spitzer, Trey Radel, Vito Fossela, Strom Thurmond, etc.

I'be seen enough of these blowhards and hypocrites get their comeuppance in my life. No one would surprise or devastate me.


You forgot Carlos Danger.
Makes me look at the "American Bitch" episode from Girls' final season  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/10/2017 2:32 pm : link
differently. I wonder if there was some connection to Louis CK.
RE: Louis C.K. put out a statement.  
Motley Two : 11/10/2017 2:50 pm : link
In comment 13685036 Mr. Bungle said:
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"These stories are true."



Yeah but Mary...
Re: Louis's apology  
BlackLight : 11/10/2017 3:26 pm : link
I have a tough time believing that he really didn't understand the power dynamic between the women and himself at the time he propositioned them. Am I crazy?
send him to rehab  
spike : 11/10/2017 3:34 pm : link
along side Weinstein and Spacey.

Some sex therapist is going to make a killing this month
RE: What is the point of an apology in these circumstances?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/10/2017 3:43 pm : link
In comment 13684307 mattlawson said:
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And what should happen to CK? Sick and twisted is not that big of a shocker in Hollywood clearly. Inappropriate, disgusting, perverted - yes. Doubt it will be illegal.


I think the goal is to raise the standard so that sick and twisted being a part of the hollywood industry is much less accepted than it presently is, so if someone is abusing their status just to be a sexual deviant, victims aren't afraid of losing careers or being blackballed if they come forward. There need to be consequences for that sort of thing.
Comedians  
spike : 11/10/2017 3:48 pm : link
are sick and twisted people so they arent held to the same standards as the Hollywood elite
RE: Re: Louis's apology  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/10/2017 3:56 pm : link
In comment 13685196 BlackLight said:
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I have a tough time believing that he really didn't understand the power dynamic between the women and himself at the time he propositioned them. Am I crazy?


He said he asked permission. Anyone in their right mind would know that "asking" doesn't make it okay. Its just a cop out and putting the pressure on the other party involved.
RE: RE: Re: Louis's apology  
BlackLight : 11/10/2017 4:10 pm : link
In comment 13685236 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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He said he asked permission. Anyone in their right mind would know that "asking" doesn't make it okay. Its just a cop out and putting the pressure on the other party involved.


Then there appears to be many folks not in their right mind, because they seem to believe Louis was truly that ignorant about the power dynamic. Because of his "privilege."

I'm not sure what privilege, though.
RE: Re: Louis's apology  
PaulBlakeTSU : 11/10/2017 4:11 pm : link
In comment 13685196 BlackLight said:
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I have a tough time believing that he really didn't understand the power dynamic between the women and himself at the time he propositioned them. Am I crazy?


What power dymanic was really evident? This was 2002-2005. At this point, he was a comic's comic. None of his major specials had come out, nor had he made either of his eponymous TV shows.

Incident 1: was in his hotel room with two female comedians after a festival they all performed in. He was way more popular. They offered him weed, he asked to jerk off.

Incident 2: He was a guest on a TV pilot and asked one of the writers (or actresses). She said no and he didn't.

Incident 3: A comedian who was a fan of Louie called him up and he jerked off while on the phone.

Incident 4: He was a writer/producer on Chris Rock Show. He asked a woman "who worked in production"

Maybe he had some sort of authority over the unnamed woman in the fourth incident, but in the other cases, what glaring power dynamic was there? Louis descirbes it as a power of admiration they had for him which he realized in hindsight years later, but would it have been so obvious at the time?
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Heisenberg : 11/10/2017 4:16 pm : link
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RE: Re: Louis's apology  
Mr. Bungle : 11/10/2017 4:18 pm : link
In comment 13685196 BlackLight said:
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I have a tough time believing that he really didn't understand the power dynamic between the women and himself at the time he propositioned them. Am I crazy?

Exactly. I wonder how many times he tried that same thing with high-powered female executives at Hollywood studios or production companies or TV networks. I would guess zero times. Gee, wonder why...
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