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DanMetroMan : 11/9/2017 1:04 pm
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For weeks the NYT has been prepping a story about Louis CK and calling everyone in the comedy world and Hollywood, my sources have received calls...it appears that story will be published soon. Per @THR the premiere for his movie has been cancelled.
People have been complaining about him for some time  
jcn56 : 11/9/2017 1:07 pm : link
I remembered that Roseanne had made some claims about him when someone was interviewing her and the topic of Cosby came up...
https://www.thedailybeast.com/roseanne-barr-calls-out-louis-ck-ive-heard-so-many-stories - ( New Window )
Slade called it.  
bceagle05 : 11/9/2017 1:07 pm : link
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Banks : 11/9/2017 1:10 pm : link
for years there have been articles of him Zeke Mowatting people
Concurrently  
DanMetroMan : 11/9/2017 1:11 pm : link
breaking news Roy Moore accused of having sex with a 14 year old when he was 32. I can only imagine how many famous people are sweating their balls off right now.
Tig  
DanMetroMan : 11/9/2017 1:15 pm : link
Notaro (who essentially has Louis to "thank") for her big break and her television program all but said the rumors were true about him. Comedian Jen Kirkman accused him and then retracted it and Gawker had this blind piece from 2012 which everyone took to be about Louis CK

"We've heard from several sources that this shameless funnyman whips it out at the most inopportune moments, often at times when his female companions have expressed no interest in watching him go at it. A representative example: At the Aspen Comedy Festival a few years ago, he invited a female comedy duo back to his hotel room. The two ladies gladly joined him, and offered him some weed. He turned it down, but asked if it would be OK if he took his dick out.

Thinking he was joking (that's exactly the kind of thing this guy would say), the women gave a facetious thumbs up. He wasn't joking. When he actually started jerking off in front of them, the ladies decided that wasn't their bag and made for the exit. But the comedian stood in front of the door, blocking their way with his body, until he was done.

One of the ladies was so shaken by the episode that she complained to the festival's organizers about the comedian's behavior. She promptly received a call from his extremely powerful manager explaining that, if she valued her career, she would drop it. She valued her career.

When we contacted the victim to check out the story, she wrote back: "first of all, your facts are wrong. and secondly, i don't want to be a part of this story. i'm sure you understand." When we asked her which facts were wrong and if the incident ever happened at all, she wrote: "please don't contact me about this matter anymore. Breast of luck to you.""
Up to now, there have been no actual accusations  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 11/9/2017 1:19 pm : link
It's all been rumor, innuendo, winks and nods, most of it coming out of the Gawker/Jezebel news team, who I wouldn't trust to report the weather.

Until there's someone willing to step up and say "this person did this to me", nothing will happen.
there's a story out on Jeffrey Tambor now too  
Greg from LI : 11/9/2017 1:24 pm : link
Jeez, does anyone in show business or politics act like a normal human being?
Pun intended?  
spike : 11/9/2017 1:25 pm : link
Erupt haha
Story out on Roy Moore (R nominee in Alabama) as well  
Ryan in Albany : 11/9/2017 1:27 pm : link
...
2  
DanMetroMan : 11/9/2017 1:27 pm : link
women are accusing Ed Westwick of rape (he's denying both). Tambor is also denying the accusers claims. She is a transgender part-time actress that served as his assistant after being brought on as a consultant on Transparent. He's claiming she's a disgruntled ex-employee.
tmz  
DanMetroMan : 11/9/2017 1:31 pm : link
The ex-girlfriend of "Shark Tank" star Robert Herjavec has fired back at him with her own lawsuit, claiming he repeatedly raped and sodomized her.
Danielle Vasinova filed suit hours after Herjavec filed a lawsuit against her, claiming she tried extorting him for $20 million by making false claims in the wake of the Harvey Weinstein scandal.
The Louis CK stuff is nothing new  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 11/9/2017 1:34 pm : link
been out there for years.
Not to make light of a very serious  
pjcas18 : 11/9/2017 1:37 pm : link
situation, but I bet there would be a decent market for a sexual misconduct version of a "dead pool" where people could bet on which celebrity is next.

It's like flood gates are open (and they should be - if reports are true), though it seems like this climate is ripe for someone innocent to be swept up in all the allegations.

lastly, there are some weird dudes in hollywood and politics.
ewwww  
giantfan2000 : 11/9/2017 1:37 pm : link
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Jeez, does anyone in show business or politics act like a normal human being?


I guess the answer is no
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Since it's easier than resurrecting the Spacey thread,  
Mad Mike : 11/9/2017 1:40 pm : link
the upcoming movie All the Money in the World, which was apparently already in the can, is reshooting all of Spacey's scenes to replace him with Christopher Plummer.

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Actor Kevin Spacey, who is facing mounting allegations of sexual harassment and assault, will no longer appear in Ridley Scott's forthcoming drama, "All the Money in the World," two sources close to the film confirm to CNN. The filmmakers have taken the rare move of planning to completely edit Spacey out of the film and replace him with another actor. Christopher Plummer will take over Spacey's role in the film, which despite the last-minute change, is still set for release on December 22.

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It has to be a power thing with these guys  
ThatLimerickGuy : 11/9/2017 1:41 pm : link
I mean Louis CK is a world renowned and rich celebrity. If he really wanted to have women watch him polish his bishop he can easily have his manager discreetly get a $1,000.00 high end escort to his room who would love nothing more than to do that.

While I enjoy a lot of these guys who have been preaching morality from their glass houses for the past 18 months getting exposed as hypocrites to the nth degree I'm finding this whole hollywood scene crazier by the day.
,  
DanMetroMan : 11/9/2017 1:41 pm : link
A tall man in a suit approached, relieving her of the duty of admonishing me. He was, in a word, livid. In two words: fucking livid. Red faced, he informed me that JFL is a "family," that Louis is a member of said "family," and that I could ask my question on "my turf," but that this was "our turf." This wasn't "that kind" of red carpet, he informed me—it was a "friendly one," and Louis was a "friend of the festival." Were I to ask the offending question again, he said, I would be ejected from the carpet. But if I asked "nice" questions, I would be allowed to stay. His demeanor aggressively implied he had no desire to let me do so. Tears stinging my eyes, I apologized to the man who loomed over me, the man I later learned was JFL COO Bruce Hills, for my indiscretion. I told him I would straighten up and fly right. I had only asked three comedians the offending question so far—my plans to also ask Patton Oswalt, T.J. Miller, and Dave Chappelle, who I could see out of the corner of my eye making his way down the aisle, were stymied.

(In an emailed statement to VICE, Bruce Hills said that his issue was with the author's approach to asking questions, rather than the questions themselves. "My intent was to keep our awards ceremony as a celebratory event," he wrote. "In doing so, I was in no way defending nor aware of any allegations towards talent. If Ms. Koester wanted talent to comment on the record, we would hope she go through the proper journalistic protocols, be forthcoming with her intentions and request a full interview. We always ensure all talent at our festival have fair notice and opportunity to decide if they wish to address such questions with a representative of the press.")


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Christopher Plummer?  
Greg from LI : 11/9/2017 1:44 pm : link
He's still working? What is he, like 90 years old?
hmm  
giantfan2000 : 11/9/2017 1:47 pm : link
hollywood hypocrites?

Roy Moore set to campaign with James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family
RE: Christopher Plummer?  
Mad Mike : 11/9/2017 1:47 pm : link
In comment 13683723 Greg from LI said:
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He's still working? What is he, like 90 years old?

He's still pretty busy. I really recommend The Exception, where he plays Kaiser Wilhem, in exile in Holland.
Yup  
well...bye TC : 11/9/2017 1:52 pm : link
just had this corroborated from someone at Yahoo news close to me. "Hell is about to rain down on Louis CK".
it's a shame  
PaulBlakeTSU : 11/9/2017 1:54 pm : link
he is such a perv. He might be my favorite stand-up ever.
oddball acting fact that I just found out  
Greg from LI : 11/9/2017 1:54 pm : link
Off topic but doesn't merit its own thread - Dietrich Bader is the great-grandson of Ed Bader, the mayor of Atlantic City in Boardwalk Empire.
the volume in these cases  
bluepepper : 11/9/2017 1:56 pm : link
is what shocks me. It's not one or two people coming forward, it's more like 15-20. And you figure there are other victims who stay quiet. These guys did this crap on a regular basis, it was part of who they were. Scary as hell.
RE: ewwww  
Bchurch : 11/9/2017 2:03 pm : link
In comment 13683710 giantfan2000 said:
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Jeez, does anyone in show business or politics act like a normal human being?



I guess the answer is no Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32 - ( New Window )


Wow... I think that is against one of the 10 commandments
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BlackLight : 11/9/2017 2:08 pm : link
In comment 13683746 Bchurch said:
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Jeez, does anyone in show business or politics act like a normal human being?



I guess the answer is no Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32 - ( New Window )



Wow... I think that is against one of the 10 commandments


Nope - he's free and clear in that sense. Didn't get married until years later.
Hmmmmmm  
Metnut : 11/9/2017 2:11 pm : link
"We've heard from several sources that this shameless funnyman whips it out at the most inopportune moments, often at times when his female companions have expressed no interest in watching him go at it. A representative example: At the Aspen Comedy Festival a few years ago, he invited a female comedy duo back to his hotel room. The two ladies gladly joined him, and offered him some weed. "

It sounds like Louis is likely a creep, but that's not really that the best example IMO. I can think of much more inopportune moments than getting high in a private hotel room after a show.
We're basically down to Tom Hanks and Weird Al  
NewFakeDannyHeep : 11/9/2017 2:41 pm : link
And 99% of female celebrities, of course.
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DanMetroMan : 11/9/2017 2:49 pm : link
In 2002, a Chicago comedy duo, Dana Min Goodman and Julia Wolov, landed their big break: a chance to perform at the U.S. Comedy Arts Festival in Aspen, Colo. When Louis C.K. invited them to hang out in his hotel room for a nightcap after their late-night show, they did not think twice. The bars were closed and they wanted to celebrate. He was a comedian they admired. The women would be together. His intentions seemed collegial.

As soon as they sat down in his room, still wrapped in their winter jackets and hats, Louis C.K. asked if he could take out his penis, the women said.

They thought it was a joke and laughed it off. “And then he really did it,” Ms. Goodman said in an interview with The New York Times. “He proceeded to take all of his clothes off, and get completely naked, and started masturbating.”

In 2003, Abby Schachner called Louis C.K. to invite him to one of her shows, and during the phone conversation, she said, she could hear him masturbating as they spoke. Another comedian, Rebecca Corry, said that while she was appearing with Louis C.K. on a television pilot in 2005, he asked if he could masturbate in front of her. She declined.
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Terry Crews has filed a police report  
Greg from LI : 11/9/2017 3:25 pm : link
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Sources tell TMZ the person Crews named on the police report is Adam Venit, who heads up the motion picture group at William Morris Endeavor. Venit has been placed on leave while WME investigates.


Anyway, what the hell is with the jerking off in front of people? What a bizarre fuckin' urge.
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Here's the article  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 11/9/2017 3:29 pm : link
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Louis C.K. Crossed a Line Into Sexual Misconduct, 5 Women Say - ( New Window )
Not to judge parents of child actors  
djm : 11/9/2017 3:31 pm : link
But parents of child actors are out of their fucking minds for pushing or allowing their kid to venture into this underworld of depravity.

Which establishment falls harder? The NFL or Hollywood?
It's sad that these things keep surfacing but its great at the same  
tbonfig : 11/9/2017 3:32 pm : link
time. Slay all these perverts, let the assault bubble in Hollywood pop and all these creeps go down with it.

As humans, we have a weird tendency to idolize people we know nothing about because we feel we can relate to them, think they are funny, etc. In truth, we know nothing of these people and I think in 2017 we're discovering more and more the truth that it is all too prevalent that men have received powerful exceptions in a male-power society.
I'm not surprised that Louis CK  
PaulBlakeTSU : 11/9/2017 3:33 pm : link
is a perv. A lot of his comedy explores his own perverted thoughts.

The stories about him in the NY Times piece are gross and perverted.

Incident 1: asked two women if he could whip it out and masturbate. They said yes, thinking he was joking. He was not joking.

Incident 2: Masturbated over the phone while talking to a woman. I think this is the worst one.

Incident 3: Asked a woman if they could go to his dressing room so he could masturbate in front of her. She said no, he didn't and said he had issues.

Incident 4: Asked a woman if she would watch him masturbate. She agreed.

Again, it's all gross and perverted. He made the women feel uncomfortable and owes them all apologies. Per the article, he reached out to Incident 2 and Incident 3 later on and did apologize for his behavior, though one of them was for the wrong thing.

I guess my point in all this is to separate him from some of these other people being discussed in the news. He didn't expose himself to a woman who said no when he asked if he could, and there are no accusations that he ever laid a hand on any of them, or coerced them into having sex with him, etc.

I think the biggest harm in all of this is if people affiliated with him in powerful positions leaned on these women to stay quiet and that their careers were potentially derailed by not wanting to work near or with people linked with him.

But I think it's a far different situation than cases like Weinstein, Toback, Bryan Singer, Cosby, etc.

Again, it's  
PaulBlakeTSU : 11/9/2017 3:35 pm : link
fucking gross and makes him a creep. I'm not excusing his behavior at all.
What is the list of people where you will be devastated at this point  
tbonfig : 11/9/2017 3:36 pm : link
if they turn out to be guilty of inappropriate things:

Tom Hanks
George Clooney

?
Gary Sinise, because he seems like a legit good guy  
Greg from LI : 11/9/2017 3:39 pm : link
McConaughy too.
RE: Gary Sinise, because he seems like a legit good guy  
tbonfig : 11/9/2017 3:42 pm : link
In comment 13683883 Greg from LI said:
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McConaughy too.


McConaughy is a good one
Keanu Reeves?  
tbonfig : 11/9/2017 3:42 pm : link
Denzel! Oh man, please not Denzel.
RE: What is the list of people where you will be devastated at this point  
Mr. Bungle : 11/9/2017 3:43 pm : link
In comment 13683874 tbonfig said:
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if they turn out to be guilty of inappropriate things:

Tom Hanks
George Clooney

?

George Clooney is a piece of shit. He mocked Charlton Heston for having Alzheimer's. Then he refused to apologize.

You can already cross him off the list.
Tom Hanks  
PaulBlakeTSU : 11/9/2017 3:45 pm : link
would be crushing. Everything I've heard about him in real life (third-hand) indicates that he's a great guy to match his on-screen personas.

I like Matt Damon a lot and so his complicity in Harvey Weinstein and Casey Affleck allegations were disappointing to say the least.

Mr.  
DanMetroMan : 11/9/2017 3:48 pm : link
Rogers would be pretty disappointing. Jim Henson too.
Mr. Rogers would be the only one that would truly surprise me  
jcn56 : 11/9/2017 3:50 pm : link
I'm a cynic - I don't know any of these people personally so I wouldn't be surprised to learn that everything about them that I know is a lie and that they're terrible human beings...


...except for Rogers. Everything I've read and seen says he was a truly remarkable individual, and I'd have a real hard time processing him being a lowlife POS in private.
Mixed emotions  
adamg : 11/9/2017 3:54 pm : link
Glad that these accusations are coming out, but really ambivalent over the fact they've stayed hidden for so long. It makes you question how fucked up things have been and for how long. They need to put these guys in jail. Despicable behavior.
RE: I'm not surprised that Louis CK  
ron mexico : 11/9/2017 3:55 pm : link
In comment 13683866 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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is a perv. A lot of his comedy explores his own perverted thoughts.

The stories about him in the NY Times piece are gross and perverted.

Incident 1: asked two women if he could whip it out and masturbate. They said yes, thinking he was joking. He was not joking.

Incident 2: Masturbated over the phone while talking to a woman. I think this is the worst one.

Incident 3: Asked a woman if they could go to his dressing room so he could masturbate in front of her. She said no, he didn't and said he had issues.

Incident 4: Asked a woman if she would watch him masturbate. She agreed.

Again, it's all gross and perverted. He made the women feel uncomfortable and owes them all apologies. Per the article, he reached out to Incident 2 and Incident 3 later on and did apologize for his behavior, though one of them was for the wrong thing.

I guess my point in all this is to separate him from some of these other people being discussed in the news. He didn't expose himself to a woman who said no when he asked if he could, and there are no accusations that he ever laid a hand on any of them, or coerced them into having sex with him, etc.

I think the biggest harm in all of this is if people affiliated with him in powerful positions leaned on these women to stay quiet and that their careers were potentially derailed by not wanting to work near or with people linked with him.

But I think it's a far different situation than cases like Weinstein, Toback, Bryan Singer, Cosby, etc.


Maybe I'm a perve but Honestly, those don't sound that bad at all. He asked permission every time and when they said no he didn't do it.

wrong neighborhood  
Banks : 11/9/2017 3:55 pm : link
RE: RE: I'm not surprised that Louis CK  
Mad Mike : 11/9/2017 3:56 pm : link
In comment 13683927 ron mexico said:
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Maybe I'm a perve but Honestly, those don't sound that bad at all. He asked permission every time and when they said no he didn't do it.

Umm, the very first one listed is an instance of the women saying no and him doing it anyway.
RE: RE: I'm not surprised that Louis CK  
wonderback : 11/9/2017 4:07 pm : link
In comment 13683927 ron mexico said:
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is a perv. A lot of his comedy explores his own perverted thoughts.

The stories about him in the NY Times piece are gross and perverted.

Incident 1: asked two women if he could whip it out and masturbate. They said yes, thinking he was joking. He was not joking.

Incident 2: Masturbated over the phone while talking to a woman. I think this is the worst one.

Incident 3: Asked a woman if they could go to his dressing room so he could masturbate in front of her. She said no, he didn't and said he had issues.

Incident 4: Asked a woman if she would watch him masturbate. She agreed.

Again, it's all gross and perverted. He made the women feel uncomfortable and owes them all apologies. Per the article, he reached out to Incident 2 and Incident 3 later on and did apologize for his behavior, though one of them was for the wrong thing.

I guess my point in all this is to separate him from some of these other people being discussed in the news. He didn't expose himself to a woman who said no when he asked if he could, and there are no accusations that he ever laid a hand on any of them, or coerced them into having sex with him, etc.

I think the biggest harm in all of this is if people affiliated with him in powerful positions leaned on these women to stay quiet and that their careers were potentially derailed by not wanting to work near or with people linked with him.

But I think it's a far different situation than cases like Weinstein, Toback, Bryan Singer, Cosby, etc.




Maybe I'm a perve but Honestly, those don't sound that bad at all. He asked permission every time and when they said no he didn't do it.


I hope your fuckin kidding. Geez.
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ron mexico : 11/9/2017 4:09 pm : link
In comment 13683932 Mad Mike said:
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Maybe I'm a perve but Honestly, those don't sound that bad at all. He asked permission every time and when they said no he didn't do it.



Umm, the very first one listed is an instance of the women saying no and him doing it anyway.


Incident 1: asked two women if he could whip it out and masturbate. They said yes, thinking he was joking. He was not joking.

It pretty clearly states they said yes. Or at least gave visual signs to that effect.
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BlackLight : 11/9/2017 4:12 pm : link
In comment 13683894 Mr. Bungle said:
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if they turn out to be guilty of inappropriate things:

Tom Hanks
George Clooney

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George Clooney is a piece of shit. He mocked Charlton Heston for having Alzheimer's. Then he refused to apologize.

You can already cross him off the list.


FWIW, Clooney did say he sent a letter of apology to Heston before he died, and got a "really nice letter" back from his wife - who is still alive and could refute that if it weren't true.
Louis CK  
PaulBlakeTSU : 11/9/2017 4:15 pm : link
should have been slapped in the face every time he even asked these women if he could do that in front of them because it is a perverted request, especially to these women that he didn't have any kind of close relationship with. He's a deviant.

But him asking to masturbate in front of these women and then doing it to the women that said (or gestured) yes and apologizing for asking to the woman who said now is in a different stratosphere from what these other men are being accused of: inappropriately touching women, coercing them into sex, or raping them.
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jcn56 : 11/9/2017 4:15 pm : link
In comment 13683957 ron mexico said:
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Maybe I'm a perve but Honestly, those don't sound that bad at all. He asked permission every time and when they said no he didn't do it.



Umm, the very first one listed is an instance of the women saying no and him doing it anyway.



Incident 1: asked two women if he could whip it out and masturbate. They said yes, thinking he was joking. He was not joking.

It pretty clearly states they said yes. Or at least gave visual signs to that effect.


And even if he did ask permission - he's usually doing it to a subordinate. Someone who relies on him for their livelihood, or someone whose livelihood could be compromised if they said no.

Now - if he had asked the woman out to dinner and she said no, and felt that she was pressured, it'd be a completely different story.
Did he blackball the one woman who said no?  
ron mexico : 11/9/2017 4:22 pm : link
Stop her from advancing her career?

Sounds to me, from the limited information I have that he's looking for consensual partners for his specific fetish. Nothing wrong with that in and of itself.
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BrettNYG10 : 11/9/2017 4:27 pm : link

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RE: Did he blackball the one woman who said no?  
BlackLight : 11/9/2017 4:31 pm : link
In comment 13683975 ron mexico said:
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Stop her from advancing her career?

Sounds to me, from the limited information I have that he's looking for consensual partners for his specific fetish. Nothing wrong with that in and of itself.


Except that we don't examine something like this "in and of itself."

He can be into scat play, for all I care. The point is, there's a way to go about finding consensual partners for your specific kink. And it's not like this. And he has to know that.
RE: Did he blackball the one woman who said no?  
pjcas18 : 11/9/2017 4:35 pm : link
In comment 13683975 ron mexico said:
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Stop her from advancing her career?

Sounds to me, from the limited information I have that he's looking for consensual partners for his specific fetish. Nothing wrong with that in and of itself.


holy shit dude, there is nothing ok about this in any shape or form. I guess there always has to be one person to play the role of contrarian but this isn't the hill you want to die on.
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Mr. Bungle : 11/9/2017 4:41 pm : link
In comment 13683963 BlackLight said:
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FWIW, Clooney did say he sent a letter of apology to Heston before he died, and got a "really nice letter" back from his wife - who is still alive and could refute that if it weren't true.

That's good to know. I still wouldn't put Clooney anywhere near the top of this kind of list, though, just based on some other things about him.

I don't believe he's done anything like assault or harassment. I just think he's got a dickhead streak to him that he doesn't hide very well.
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tbonfig : 11/9/2017 4:59 pm : link
In comment 13684004 Mr. Bungle said:
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FWIW, Clooney did say he sent a letter of apology to Heston before he died, and got a "really nice letter" back from his wife - who is still alive and could refute that if it weren't true.


That's good to know. I still wouldn't put Clooney anywhere near the top of this kind of list, though, just based on some other things about him.

I don't believe he's done anything like assault or harassment. I just think he's got a dickhead streak to him that he doesn't hide very well.


Crazy, I have the exact opposite impression of him through all of his humanitarian work
RE: Did he blackball the one woman who said no?  
jcn56 : 11/9/2017 5:10 pm : link
In comment 13683975 ron mexico said:
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Stop her from advancing her career?

Sounds to me, from the limited information I have that he's looking for consensual partners for his specific fetish. Nothing wrong with that in and of itself.


It doesn't have it stop her from advancing. I would say the level of impropriety goes with how familiar they were with one another, and whether they had an existing professional relationship.

Obviously, it's not as bad as physically forcing yourself on someone (although I'm sure there's some mental damage imparted on someone who has to sit and unwillingly participate here too). But using your position as leverage to try to get someone to conduct sexual acts they'd rather not do is unacceptable.

RE: Not to judge parents of child actors  
BMac : 11/9/2017 6:07 pm : link
In comment 13683864 djm said:
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But parents of child actors are out of their fucking minds for pushing or allowing their kid to venture into this underworld of depravity.

Which establishment falls harder? The NFL or Hollywood?


Actually, Congress.
Dear Louis and Roy  
GentleGiant : 11/9/2017 8:07 pm : link
Thank You.

-Charlie Sheen
Clooney is like DiCaprio or Jeter  
UConn4523 : 11/9/2017 8:18 pm : link
has a list longer than any of us can imagine but is likely all consensual and of age women. Theres plenty of actors that I don't think would do this, but they are all going to get a bad name for a while.
RE: Not to make light of a very serious  
EricJ : 11/9/2017 8:21 pm : link
In comment 13683709 pjcas18 said:
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situation, but I bet there would be a decent market for a sexual misconduct version of a "dead pool" where people could bet on which celebrity is next.

It's like flood gates are open (and they should be - if reports are true), though it seems like this climate is ripe for someone innocent to be swept up in all the allegations.

lastly, there are some weird dudes in hollywood and politics.


I am going with Tom Cruise and John Travolta
just like  
Les in TO : 11/9/2017 8:35 pm : link
after Michael Richards went on his racist rant, Louis CK will be done after this in terms of mainstream big money gigs.
What is the point of an apology in these circumstances?  
mattlawson : 11/9/2017 8:44 pm : link
Honestly. And what should happen to CK? Sick and twisted is not that big of a shocker in Hollywood clearly. Inappropriate, disgusting, perverted - yes. Doubt it will be illegal.

The politician and 14 year old is totally different and if true that guy should go to jail.
RE: What is the point of an apology in these circumstances?  
BlackLight : 11/9/2017 9:07 pm : link
In comment 13684307 mattlawson said:
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Honestly. And what should happen to CK? Sick and twisted is not that big of a shocker in Hollywood clearly. Inappropriate, disgusting, perverted - yes. Doubt it will be illegal.

The politician and 14 year old is totally different and if true that guy should go to jail.


The fact that Louis CK hasn't made any sort of statement yet might mean he's learned the Spacey lesson - Don't get your apology out in front of the coming niagara of allegations from other women.
HBO  
Mr. Nickels : 11/9/2017 9:15 pm : link
removed all louis ck content. Isn't that a bit too far?
RE: HBO  
BlackLight : 11/9/2017 9:27 pm : link
In comment 13684335 Mr. Nickels said:
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removed all louis ck content. Isn't that a bit too far?


I don't think so. They can always put it back later.
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Banks : 11/9/2017 9:28 pm : link
Was his show worth watching?
Him apologizing for shoving a woman in the bathroom (to the wrong  
BrettNYG10 : 11/9/2017 9:34 pm : link
Woman) suggests there might be worse stuff out there.
RE: What is the list of people where you will be devastated at this point  
SomeFan : 11/9/2017 11:37 pm : link
In comment 13683874 tbonfig said:
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if they turn out to be guilty of inappropriate things:

Tom Hanks
George Clooney

?


Devastated? That strikes me as completely overboard for a normal person.
Jimmy Swaggert  
Modus Operandi : 11/10/2017 12:03 am : link
Rush Limbaugh, Newt Gingrich, Elliot Spitzer, Trey Radel, Vito Fossela, Strom Thurmond, etc.

I'be seen enough of these blowhards and hypocrites get their comeuppance in my life. No one would surprise or devastate me.

I'm a Louis CK fan, and while he doesn't belong in the among the aforementioned list of shitheel hypocrites, what's alleged is awful. Disappointing? Yes. Devastating? Heck no.
Louis C.K. put out a statement.  
Mr. Bungle : 11/10/2017 1:32 pm : link
"These stories are true."
Full statement:  
Mr. Bungle : 11/10/2017 1:33 pm : link
in addition to the trauma  
well...bye TC : 11/10/2017 1:56 pm : link
the victims suffer for life, what doesnt get much copy is all of the other performers and crew who lose jobs and income when these sick fuckstains are outed. There may be minimal insurance for some, but when a plug is puled on a production many people are SOL. Some perv wiggles his dick and the caterer makeup artist stylist etc all of a sudden cant pay the rent. Fuck these narcissists.
If nothing else  
Modus Operandi : 11/10/2017 2:09 pm : link
Have to give him some credit for owning this. More than you can say about some presidents (past and present) and a certain senatorial candidate. Not to mention the loads of executives in the private sector who've undoubtedly had their way with women -willing or not - over the last century.
If I'm reading that correctly  
BigBlue4You09 : 11/10/2017 2:27 pm : link
The woman agreed to let him take his junk out?
RE: Jimmy Swaggert  
njm : 11/10/2017 2:27 pm : link
In comment 13684443 Modus Operandi said:
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Rush Limbaugh, Newt Gingrich, Elliot Spitzer, Trey Radel, Vito Fossela, Strom Thurmond, etc.

I'be seen enough of these blowhards and hypocrites get their comeuppance in my life. No one would surprise or devastate me.


You forgot Carlos Danger.
Makes me look at the "American Bitch" episode from Girls' final season  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/10/2017 2:32 pm : link
differently. I wonder if there was some connection to Louis CK.
RE: Louis C.K. put out a statement.  
Motley Two : 11/10/2017 2:50 pm : link
In comment 13685036 Mr. Bungle said:
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"These stories are true."



Yeah but Mary...
Re: Louis's apology  
BlackLight : 11/10/2017 3:26 pm : link
I have a tough time believing that he really didn't understand the power dynamic between the women and himself at the time he propositioned them. Am I crazy?
send him to rehab  
spike : 11/10/2017 3:34 pm : link
along side Weinstein and Spacey.

Some sex therapist is going to make a killing this month
RE: What is the point of an apology in these circumstances?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/10/2017 3:43 pm : link
In comment 13684307 mattlawson said:
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And what should happen to CK? Sick and twisted is not that big of a shocker in Hollywood clearly. Inappropriate, disgusting, perverted - yes. Doubt it will be illegal.


I think the goal is to raise the standard so that sick and twisted being a part of the hollywood industry is much less accepted than it presently is, so if someone is abusing their status just to be a sexual deviant, victims aren't afraid of losing careers or being blackballed if they come forward. There need to be consequences for that sort of thing.
Comedians  
spike : 11/10/2017 3:48 pm : link
are sick and twisted people so they arent held to the same standards as the Hollywood elite
RE: Re: Louis's apology  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/10/2017 3:56 pm : link
In comment 13685196 BlackLight said:
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I have a tough time believing that he really didn't understand the power dynamic between the women and himself at the time he propositioned them. Am I crazy?


He said he asked permission. Anyone in their right mind would know that "asking" doesn't make it okay. Its just a cop out and putting the pressure on the other party involved.
RE: RE: Re: Louis's apology  
BlackLight : 11/10/2017 4:10 pm : link
In comment 13685236 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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He said he asked permission. Anyone in their right mind would know that "asking" doesn't make it okay. Its just a cop out and putting the pressure on the other party involved.


Then there appears to be many folks not in their right mind, because they seem to believe Louis was truly that ignorant about the power dynamic. Because of his "privilege."

I'm not sure what privilege, though.
RE: Re: Louis's apology  
PaulBlakeTSU : 11/10/2017 4:11 pm : link
In comment 13685196 BlackLight said:
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I have a tough time believing that he really didn't understand the power dynamic between the women and himself at the time he propositioned them. Am I crazy?


What power dymanic was really evident? This was 2002-2005. At this point, he was a comic's comic. None of his major specials had come out, nor had he made either of his eponymous TV shows.

Incident 1: was in his hotel room with two female comedians after a festival they all performed in. He was way more popular. They offered him weed, he asked to jerk off.

Incident 2: He was a guest on a TV pilot and asked one of the writers (or actresses). She said no and he didn't.

Incident 3: A comedian who was a fan of Louie called him up and he jerked off while on the phone.

Incident 4: He was a writer/producer on Chris Rock Show. He asked a woman "who worked in production"

Maybe he had some sort of authority over the unnamed woman in the fourth incident, but in the other cases, what glaring power dynamic was there? Louis descirbes it as a power of admiration they had for him which he realized in hindsight years later, but would it have been so obvious at the time?
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Heisenberg : 11/10/2017 4:16 pm : link
via Imgflip Meme Generator
RE: Re: Louis's apology  
Mr. Bungle : 11/10/2017 4:18 pm : link
In comment 13685196 BlackLight said:
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I have a tough time believing that he really didn't understand the power dynamic between the women and himself at the time he propositioned them. Am I crazy?

Exactly. I wonder how many times he tried that same thing with high-powered female executives at Hollywood studios or production companies or TV networks. I would guess zero times. Gee, wonder why...
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