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Matt M. : 11/9/2017 2:08 pm
Maybe I missed the explanation, but myself and a few other posters asked what happened to Chris in Philly when it was mentioned he was banned last week. There was even a thread, which I can no longer find, dedicated to this inquiry at one point. But, again, I never saw an explanation and I would very much like to know as he is a long time poster I enjoy reading.
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RE: RE: and Yat  
EricJ : 11/10/2017 8:48 am : link
In comment 13684538 I love liverwurst said:
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I was here for; the Matt In Syracuse Osi prediction, Joey In Virginia Fights, GG blowouts, Bill Barilko , Giant Kurt DAYS. LPete was one of my first friends here.


LOL @ Barilko ! Never met the guy in person, but his character on the site was similar to this guy...
RE: RE: RE: and Yat  
Les in TO : 11/10/2017 9:11 am : link
In comment 13684571 EricJ said:
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In comment 13684538 I love liverwurst said:


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I was here for; the Matt In Syracuse Osi prediction, Joey In Virginia Fights, GG blowouts, Bill Barilko , Giant Kurt DAYS. LPete was one of my first friends here.




LOL @ Barilko ! Never met the guy in person, but his character on the site was similar to this guy...
maybe you can give that figure as a prize to liver. After all He's been here the longest and knows the most about the Giants and has a bigger dong and a higher net worth than anyone on this thread.
I don't get the analogy of I love liverwurst being  
gidiefor : Mod : 11/10/2017 9:39 am : link
RT -- they have very different posting styles - and you never see RT take a step back and apologize when he's on a thread rant

so I disagree with whatever has caused this perception

RT also knows not to come on here


- as to Chris - well - I love the guy -- it's really up to him as to whether or not he wishes to return.
...  
Overseer : 11/10/2017 10:11 am : link
In comment 13684409 Eric from BBI said:
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You see what you want to see.

If you think this place is so mismanaged, just leave.

Quite frankly, I'm tired of the childish complaints.

But it must be worth it around training camp when all those PHAT STACKZ roll in.

I was also banned a few months ago for I have no idea what reason. Another liberal scalp for Eric's wall? You decide...






People just can't help themselves on political posts for some reason  
PatersonPlank : 11/10/2017 10:19 am : link
There is no discussion, it quickly/immediately reduces into name calling and race baiting. Its just like reading either HuffPo or Drudge, no middle just the other guy is wrong. Also its not so easy to just ignore those posts. The politics bleed into football posts as well.

I am glad political posts are banned.
That Alex Jones gif cracks me up.  
BrettNYG10 : 11/10/2017 10:25 am : link
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RE: People just can't help themselves on political posts for some reason  
Big Blue Blogger : 11/10/2017 10:45 am : link
PatersonPlank said:
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... Also its not so easy to just ignore those posts. The politics bleed into football posts as well.
That's true, and it's unfortunate. It's hardly a BBI phenomenon, though. There is political subtext to a lot of what you see between 12:30 and 4:30 on autumn Sundays. That was the case for decades before players started kneeling during the anthem, and it's not exactly subtle. Anyone who loves football but also sees toxic masculinity as a problem has to be somewhat conflicted, because the two things have always gone hand-in-hand.

Particularly with increasing awareness of CTE, drug abuse, domestic violence, and other ills in which the sport has been implicated, it's hard to discuss football's future without some political context. It's no wonder that football discussion turns political and arouses a certain amount of passion: some of these questions touch the fundamental tensions among freedom, order, and social justice - which have strained the union since at least 1789, and aren't going away any time soon.

If we could keep it civil, BBI would be a great place to discuss these topics, because such diverse views and backgrounds are represented here. As Eric has said, the problem isn't politics per se, but our inability to touch the political third rail without igniting tribal firefights. That's why we can't have nice things.
Eric and gidie  
Bill2 : 11/10/2017 10:57 am : link
Leaving questions of provocation and consistency completely aside, I don't know of a greater illustrative signal to a leader of a business enterprise that a period of silent self reflection is called for; than making public that a grown man has to grovel for personal forgiveness before being part of a club worth being part of. Or donating to.
Liverwurst is the Anglicanization  
Modus Operandi : 11/10/2017 11:27 am : link
The German Leberwerst. A food popular throughout Eastern Europe. Russia, Russia is in Eastern Europe. Cuba is a Russian ally. Pepe Silvia sounds like a Cuban name to me.

I love liverwurst > Russia > Cuba > Pepe Silvia

The signs were there all along.
Bill  
Modus Operandi : 11/10/2017 11:32 am : link
How else are childreb to be kept in line if they aren't smacked on the nose with a newspaper from time to time. Fealty to the throne. Long Live the King.

Eric  
Modus Operandi : 11/10/2017 11:34 am : link
Shall I email your cat over the liverwurst/Cuba connection, or have you got it from here?
grovel?  
Banks : 11/10/2017 11:41 am : link
He was asked if he would stop posting political stuff. He could have replied 'yes' and leave it at that. I assume Eric made it public since there were a couple dozen posts that said "Chris gets banned why X is allowed here?". He then explained that he could come back instantly given he agrees to stop posting political stuff. That is a far cry from groveling to say the least.
RE: grovel?  
Modus Operandi : 11/10/2017 11:44 am : link
In comment 13684869 Banks said:
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He was asked if he would stop posting political stuff. He could have replied 'yes' and leave it at that. I assume Eric made it public since there were a couple dozen posts that said "Chris gets banned why X is allowed here?". He then explained that he could come back instantly given he agrees to stop posting political stuff. That is a far cry from groveling to say the least.


You've not been to BBI Banned Land, have you?
correct  
Banks : 11/10/2017 11:48 am : link
not yet and hope never
RE: correct  
Modus Operandi : 11/10/2017 11:49 am : link
In comment 13684879 Banks said:
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not yet and hope never


It's wild, man. Like Dante on mesculine. They only way out is to pucker up.
_  
Banks : 11/10/2017 11:54 am : link
lol, that gave me one hell of a visual
FYI  
Modus Operandi : 11/10/2017 11:55 am : link
Last night was Thursday night Pinochle with mgorga, Rocky and Matt in Syracuse.

I weep for CiP's soul.
RE: RE: and Yat  
Sonic Youth : 11/10/2017 11:59 am : link
In comment 13684538 I love liverwurst said:
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In comment 13684439 Eric from BBI said:


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under your assumptions, Big Blue Blogger and Les in Toronto would be gone based on this thread alone.

Now, as Banks said above, we could have chosen to bring the ban hammer down on a number of people here, but I felt this was more of a clear-the-air thread.

Confused? When in doubt, don't get political.




Eric, you are definitely accurate in saying that Les In Toronto and Big Blue Blogger would have been banned based on this thread alone, unless it's okay to talk about "Your Fake President" . People seem to want to have it both ways.

Like I said before, I was wrong in doing what I did, I'm sorry for putting you in the position to need to defend yourself on your own web-site, I'm kinda pissed at myself actually.

Just so you know, I've been coming here longer then most of the people on this thread. I'm not Artie. I was here for; the Matt In Syracuse Osi prediction, Joey In Virginia Fights, GG blowouts, Bill Barilko , Giant Kurt DAYS. LPete was one of my first friends here. I bet I know more about the Giants then most of the people on this thread. When the site did the big overhaul, I lost my handle and came back.

Sorry again for putting you in the bad spot, won't do it again
One thing though:

it's 2017, get with the times. Insults like "durr your boyfriend tee hee" are stupid, overdone, and honestly just archaic at this point. A relic of the old times. There's nothing wrong with being gay, there's definitely gay NFL players, and probably gay users of this site.

It's not clever and you just look like an ass.

It's not about "feelings", it's about human decency. I have many gay friends and none of them deserve to have their sexual orientation be a childish insult that people think is a zinger.

RE: That Alex Jones gif cracks me up.  
Sonic Youth : 11/10/2017 12:00 pm : link
In comment 13684744 BrettNYG10 said:
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I'm partial to the Pepe Silvia one.

My sis and I love Always Sunny, so I'm getting her this wall art as part of her bday gift next week.



looks dope
RE: RE: RE: and Yat  
Modus Operandi : 11/10/2017 12:00 pm : link
In comment 13684900 Sonic Youth said:
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In comment 13684538 I love liverwurst said:


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It's not about "feelings", it's about human decency. I have many gay friends and none of them deserve to have their sexual orientation be a childish insult that people think is a zinger.


What a puff, amirite?
RE: RE: RE: RE: and Yat  
Sonic Youth : 11/10/2017 12:03 pm : link
In comment 13684904 Modus Operandi said:
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In comment 13684900 Sonic Youth said:


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In comment 13684538 I love liverwurst said:


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It's not about "feelings", it's about human decency. I have many gay friends and none of them deserve to have their sexual orientation be a childish insult that people think is a zinger.




What a puff, amirite?
i just have 2 many fweelings :'(
Banks  
Bill2 : 11/10/2017 12:09 pm : link
I assume that covers what I was addressing with my use of the word.

The use of "grovel" is actually a quote from ex BBI members most of us would recognize as functional and competent and balanced in most non bbi life challenges.

I make no comments about Erics absolute right to define rules. ( actually agree about a ban on politics).

My comments, if I made them all, would be restricted to application of those rules and attitude. Usually, those are the precursors to an offering which will erode regardless of content improvements ( and imho the site has better content than it ever did pre 2016).

So usually, good business leaders need to carefully examine the attitude and administration by which they produce the customer experience. Even more so if the drive is to enlarge the potential donor pool.
What a bunch of whining babies on this site  
ZogZerg : 11/10/2017 12:14 pm : link
I'm impressed Eric has kept this site going as long as he has. He has a lot more patience that I do.
RE: Banks  
gidiefor : Mod : 11/10/2017 1:07 pm : link
In comment 13684911 Bill2 said:
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So usually, good business leaders need to carefully examine the attitude and administration by which they produce the customer experience. Even more so if the drive is to enlarge the potential donor pool.


Bill - I am interested to know what you would have us do.

We post policy and rules, we attempt to communicate them, we even start threads about them, and email parties about their violations.

Currently, we ask that suspended posters (and the vast majority of them are repeat violators) to acknowledge that they violated the rules and indicate that they won't do it again.

Each violator is taken on a case by case basis -- and some just acknowledge what they have done and say they won't do it again, and others debate with us our right to suspend them or even what constitutes a violation. The latter are generally unsuccessful in returning.

We are not trying to embarrass anyone - and Modus -- I really don't remember you puckering up - even a little.

I'm not sure what else you would have us do to get the point across and am interested in hearing what else we should be doing for illumination purposes.
RE: What a bunch of whining babies on this site  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/10/2017 1:19 pm : link
In comment 13684917 ZogZerg said:
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I'm impressed Eric has kept this site going as long as he has. He has a lot more patience that I do.

*than
RE: RE: Banks  
Modus Operandi : 11/10/2017 1:20 pm : link
In comment 13685006 gidiefor said:
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We are not trying to embarrass anyone - and Modus -- I really don't remember you puckering up - even a little.


I don't go downtown without dinner.
RE: RE: RE: Banks  
gidiefor : Mod : 11/10/2017 1:32 pm : link
In comment 13685021 Modus Operandi said:
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I don't go downtown without dinner.


Doesn't that poke a hole in the accuracy of your statement?
RE: RE: RE: RE: Banks  
Modus Operandi : 11/10/2017 2:01 pm : link
In comment 13685035 gidiefor said:
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In comment 13685021 Modus Operandi said:


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I don't go downtown without dinner.



Doesn't that poke a hole in the accuracy of your statement?


There won't be any hole pokin either.

Now bring some oysters and lobster and we'll see what happens.
: (  
gidiefor : Mod : 11/10/2017 2:07 pm : link
I used to love oysters and lobsters -- thanks
Fwiw  
Modus Operandi : 11/10/2017 2:15 pm : link
I did apologize to you personally.
Gidie  
Bill2 : 11/10/2017 2:21 pm : link
Understood. Send you an email over the weekend. I think there are ways proven to work in other similar businesses that can make this aspect of the site better for you and for posters.
geez  
bc4life : 11/10/2017 4:11 pm : link
all this friggin drama over a football site, WTF, I mean WTF?
A problem I see with NFTs  
njm : 11/10/2017 5:11 pm : link
Not speaking about non-football sports threads and such, but when a world event or financial thread subject was taken seriously and discussion was more important than scoring points (political or otherwise) these threads used to last for days. Now, unless they go off the rails (prior to deletion) they sail down the board and leave the front page quickly. The most recent example was the thread on Saudi Arabia, There was a little provocitation (damn I sound like Bo Deitle) but a number of folks made solid contributions. It's nowhere to be found. Have people lost interest?

Part of it stems from the fact that Ronnie and Phil don't seem to post here any more, and Dune, Bill and Reb seem to post less frequently. But those had some value. I'd like to see away for them to make a return.
RE: : (  
Larry in Pencilvania : 11/10/2017 5:38 pm : link
In comment 13685077 gidiefor said:
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I used to love oysters and lobsters -- thanks


Hi gidie
njm  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/10/2017 5:46 pm : link
that thread is still up.

It's hard to discuss what is going on in Saudi Arabia (which is HUGE) without bringing in domestic politics
RE: RE: : (  
gidiefor : Mod : 11/10/2017 6:09 pm : link
In comment 13685325 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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In comment 13685077 gidiefor said:


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I used to love oysters and lobsters -- thanks



Hi gidie


Hi Mr Larry
by the way  
gidiefor : Mod : 11/10/2017 6:11 pm : link
for those who care - Chris is reinstated
RE: by the way  
YAJ2112 : 11/10/2017 6:40 pm : link
In comment 13685359 gidiefor said:
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for those who care - Chris is reinstated


So his clique failed to bring down BBI, eh? Another Philadelphia failure.
RE: by the way  
Larry in Pencilvania : 11/10/2017 7:28 pm : link
In comment 13685359 gidiefor said:
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for those who care - Chris is reinstated


Does this mean he'll finally answer my email
RE: RE: What a bunch of whining babies on this site  
micky : 11/10/2017 7:38 pm : link
In comment 13685020 Gatorade Dunk said:
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I'm impressed Eric has kept this site going as long as he has. He has a lot more patience that I do.


*than


wouldn't blame him if he decided to shutdown this site..and deal with all this constant drama..lol
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Bill2 : 11/10/2017 8:12 pm : link
Not to be argumentative but it's easy to talk in depth about Saudi Arabia's current events without bringing in the USA.

Much less our politicians or domestic windbags.

Also...current events there are actually likely a sign it's becoming less relevant than the the Kingdom used to be
RE: by the way  
EricJ : 11/10/2017 10:43 pm : link
In comment 13685359 gidiefor said:
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for those who care - Chris is reinstated


The least he could do is at least respond to this thread and let everyone know what he did while on on vacation.

Gidie.. are you his parole officer?
Has anyone considered that  
Joey in VA : 11/11/2017 8:13 am : link
Banning him generated a lot of page views and clicks as this drama has unfolded? Isnít the goal to get people talking when you run any business in the realm of entertainment? You all really think Ben Affleck dated J Lo or maybe the studio wanted to save its ass by generating a story to get people to watch a movie. People like Stephen A Smith have jobs because they stir the pot and get the rabble rousers out to call in or write in how much they hate him.

Negative coverage is still coverage which makes people in charge do seemingly heavy handed (sorry Jordan) and silly things. It creates a controversy which stirs up a hornets nest which gets people.....talking! Bottom line, this was good for business. It does not have to be sensible.
RE: Has anyone considered that  
micky : 11/11/2017 8:23 am : link
In comment 13685637 Joey in VA said:
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Banning him generated a lot of page views and clicks as this drama has unfolded? Isnít the goal to get people talking when you run any business in the realm of entertainment? You all really think Ben Affleck dated J Lo or maybe the studio wanted to save its ass by generating a story to get people to watch a movie. People like Stephen A Smith have jobs because they stir the pot and get the rabble rousers out to call in or write in how much they hate him.

Negative coverage is still coverage which makes people in charge do seemingly heavy handed (sorry Jordan) and silly things. It creates a controversy which stirs up a hornets nest which gets people.....talking! Bottom line, this was good for business. It does not have to be sensible.



if that's the case, which no doubt it's the truth, then Eric should allow political posts..thats the mother of all hotbed, click generating, controversial topics ... Boom!
All the talk about 'groveling' seems weird to me.  
Big Blue Blogger : 11/11/2017 9:19 am : link
If admitting that you did something stupid and apologizing for it is groveling, I guess I groveled. Personally, I don't see it that way. We all do dumb stuff. Own it and move on.

I have no idea whether the ban-hammer has been wielded in a completely fair and balanced way. That seems like an awfully high standard; Eric and the other mods aren't wearing black robes.

RE: Has anyone considered that  
Sonic Youth : 11/11/2017 11:09 am : link
In comment 13685637 Joey in VA said:
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Banning him generated a lot of page views and clicks as this drama has unfolded? Isnít the goal to get people talking when you run any business in the realm of entertainment? You all really think Ben Affleck dated J Lo or maybe the studio wanted to save its ass by generating a story to get people to watch a movie. People like Stephen A Smith have jobs because they stir the pot and get the rabble rousers out to call in or write in how much they hate him.

Negative coverage is still coverage which makes people in charge do seemingly heavy handed (sorry Jordan) and silly things. It creates a controversy which stirs up a hornets nest which gets people.....talking! Bottom line, this was good for business. It does not have to be sensible.
come on bro

the mod team isnt banning people for a couple hundred page views. how absurdly outlandish
someone should start a thread asking advice about  
Del Shofner : 11/11/2017 2:15 pm : link
the best cheesesteak places in Philly - that's the only way to know for sure whether Chris is back.
There's only one explanation for Cippy's silence  
Modus Operandi : 11/11/2017 2:21 pm : link
Since being brought back...


RE: njm  
njm : 11/12/2017 1:36 pm : link
In comment 13685333 Eric from BBI said:
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that thread is still up.

It's hard to discuss what is going on in Saudi Arabia (which is HUGE) without bringing in domestic politics


Eric - I guess what I am expressing is regret that those threads no longer have legs. Some used to go off the rails and get deleted, but many stayed on the front page for days and had a lot of good commentary. That thread headed for page 2 in an hour or two, and while resurrected once or twice, never got the comments that similar threads in the past got.
RE: Has anyone considered that  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/12/2017 3:09 pm : link
In comment 13685637 Joey in VA said:
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Banning him generated a lot of page views and clicks as this drama has unfolded? Isnít the goal to get people talking when you run any business in the realm of entertainment? You all really think Ben Affleck dated J Lo or maybe the studio wanted to save its ass by generating a story to get people to watch a movie. People like Stephen A Smith have jobs because they stir the pot and get the rabble rousers out to call in or write in how much they hate him.

Negative coverage is still coverage which makes people in charge do seemingly heavy handed (sorry Jordan) and silly things. It creates a controversy which stirs up a hornets nest which gets people.....talking! Bottom line, this was good for business. It does not have to be sensible.

So is that why you're here?
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