Maybe I missed the explanation, but myself and a few other posters asked what happened to Chris in Philly when it was mentioned he was banned last week. There was even a thread, which I can no longer find, dedicated to this inquiry at one point. But, again, I never saw an explanation and I would very much like to know as he is a long time poster I enjoy reading.
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Appreciate the kind words, but that post doesn't help. Again, leave the politics off of the site.
Mentioning Trump gets you banned and liverwurst's post gets a warning. The rules around here are clear as mud. It's no wonder why everyone worth a shit is leaving.
And before you get your panties in a bunch liverwurst, no, my feelings aren't hurt and I'm not "entitled". Just calling out the hypocrisy.
Replace "Democrats" with "Republicans" and "progressive mentality" with "conservative mentality" and I wonder how well it would go over
Fucking stupid and fucking idiotic.
Yeah liberals are.
Isn't that how it works?
I confess I feel slightly bad for him myself. It must suck to have to trudge through life with such an imperceptible degree of intellect.
I confess I feel slightly bad for him myself. It must suck to have to trudge through life with such an imperceptible degree of intellect.
It does. :(
What you can't measure are the number of potential new frequent users who are driven off by a handful of individuals who want to turn this into their own online bar brawl. Although there may have been a few old long time posters who got banned, Eric said this is a business. Not saying that I fully understand where his site revenue comes from but there are ads and more people = more traffic = more $$
What you can't measure are the number of potential new frequent users who are driven off by a handful of individuals who want to turn this into their own online bar brawl. Although there may have been a few old long time posters who got banned, Eric said this is a business. Not saying that I fully understand where his site revenue comes from but there are ads and more people = more traffic = more $$
Wrong. There is no political ban. If there was, liverwurst would be gone right now.
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No, it's not good for BBI.
They think they can go all scorched earth here and take down BBI. The thing is this: I don't care. This started off in 1995 as a labor of love that eventually turned into a business. But I've always said that once it becomes too emotionally expensive to run, I'm out. I've had a great run with the site and hope to keep it going for another decade, but I can walk away.
So I have nothing to lose by banning children who want to keep testing one of the few rules I have in place. If they somehow sabotage the site, I guess they can enjoy their time at Giants.com or some other Giants website, but that's on them.
But they are not going to pressure me to change the rules by constantly misbehaving and testing me.
Take personal responsibility for your own actions.
Eric, truer words couldn't have been spoken!! Unfortunately, the mentality of the " Entitled" is running rampant on this web-page, some people would refer to them as Democrats.
Let's face it, the Giants are a New York Team, a big portion of the fan base in the Tri-State area is full of a progressive mentality. They think the world revolves around their feelings and ideas, however, it doesn't.
I think you're doing a wonderful job here and look forward to the insightful information that I find.
Thank You
Not that it bothers me or that I give a shit, I find it incredible that the mere mention of Manafort and Moore in a post leads to a little warning of "that's what got CiP kicked off"
But this garbage post which is goes above mentioning individuals but is overtly political against "Democrats" and "progressive" isn't ban-worthy... simply a "nice post that doesn't help"
Don't care and I don't think your biased with you ban in terms of politics but it's definitely inconsistent in your response alone.
Sounds like Liverwurst cracked the code! Democrats and progressives are entitled pussies! That's a hot fucking take you got there, brotha.
Fucking stupid and fucking idiotic.
I'm really glad it doesn't bother you! For something that doesn't bother someone, you sure seem to be pretty emotional and angry over it? "Fucking stupid and idiotic"?
You just don't get it, do you? Your opinion means nothing.. Life isn't fair, get over it and go back to hair dresser school tomorrow with a positive attitude, your boyfriend will thank you for it.
You mean simo?
Sorry... alleged pedophilia.
or - is it statutory rape....or a ploy to help the competitor?
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then I'm leaving too! FREE CiP!
I thought you left...good to see you. Hope all is well
Oh God, IgglefanDan, yuck, ugh
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No, it's not good for BBI.
They think they can go all scorched earth here and take down BBI. The thing is this: I don't care. This started off in 1995 as a labor of love that eventually turned into a business. But I've always said that once it becomes too emotionally expensive to run, I'm out. I've had a great run with the site and hope to keep it going for another decade, but I can walk away.
So I have nothing to lose by banning children who want to keep testing one of the few rules I have in place. If they somehow sabotage the site, I guess they can enjoy their time at Giants.com or some other Giants website, but that's on them.
But they are not going to pressure me to change the rules by constantly misbehaving and testing me.
Take personal responsibility for your own actions.
Eric, truer words couldn't have been spoken!! Unfortunately, the mentality of the " Entitled" is running rampant on this web-page, some people would refer to them as Democrats.
Let's face it, the Giants are a New York Team, a big portion of the fan base in the Tri-State area is full of a progressive mentality. They think the world revolves around their feelings and ideas, however, it doesn't.
I think you're doing a wonderful job here and look forward to the insightful information that I find.
Thank You
Good Lord, Sonic Youth and Overseer are the pots calling the kettles.....
Mention politics - as long as it aligns with a certain position - you get a pass.
CiP gets banned. Meanwhile, trolls, malcontents, fake insiders and kiss asses remain, get polls, and the benefit of the doubt.
Great stuff.
Did Blogger not also get a warning?
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In comment 13684063 Eric from BBI said:
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No, it's not good for BBI.
They think they can go all scorched earth here and take down BBI. The thing is this: I don't care. This started off in 1995 as a labor of love that eventually turned into a business. But I've always said that once it becomes too emotionally expensive to run, I'm out. I've had a great run with the site and hope to keep it going for another decade, but I can walk away.
So I have nothing to lose by banning children who want to keep testing one of the few rules I have in place. If they somehow sabotage the site, I guess they can enjoy their time at Giants.com or some other Giants website, but that's on them.
But they are not going to pressure me to change the rules by constantly misbehaving and testing me.
Take personal responsibility for your own actions.
Eric, truer words couldn't have been spoken!! Unfortunately, the mentality of the " Entitled" is running rampant on this web-page, some people would refer to them as Democrats.
Let's face it, the Giants are a New York Team, a big portion of the fan base in the Tri-State area is full of a progressive mentality. They think the world revolves around their feelings and ideas, however, it doesn't.
I think you're doing a wonderful job here and look forward to the insightful information that I find.
Thank You
Not that it bothers me or that I give a shit, I find it incredible that the mere mention of Manafort and Moore in a post leads to a little warning of "that's what got CiP kicked off"
But this garbage post which is goes above mentioning individuals but is overtly political against "Democrats" and "progressive" isn't ban-worthy... simply a "nice post that doesn't help"
Don't care and I don't think your biased with you ban in terms of politics but it's definitely inconsistent in your response alone.
Sounds like Liverwurst cracked the code! Democrats and progressives are entitled pussies! That's a hot fucking take you got there, brotha.
Fucking stupid and fucking idiotic.
I'm really glad it doesn't bother you! For something that doesn't bother someone, you sure seem to be pretty emotional and angry over it? "Fucking stupid and idiotic"?
You just don't get it, do you? Your opinion means nothing.. Life isn't fair, get over it and go back to hair dresser school tomorrow with a positive attitude, your boyfriend will thank you for it.
Really struggling to see how this sort of crap is acceptable.
If he does it again, e-mail me and he's gone.
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On every thread he posts.
If he does it again, e-mail me and he's gone.
In my 20 years here, I've emailed you exactly once - when someone went in and edited the "Letters to the Editor" part of the page. That was years ago. I've never emailed you about a posted and don't plan to.
So you didn't read this thread? Do you need an e-mail for this one?
I seriously hope your bias is intentional - because if it isn't, you're so tone deaf it's astounding.
We all know it's a dupe - I'll assume you're looking out for Rocky, but that's just a guess.
It's your site, more power to you - but don't be surprised when people don't want to stick around for it. And if that's the route you go, you might want to consider being up front about it.
If you think this place is so mismanaged, just leave.
Quite frankly, I'm tired of the childish complaints.
If you think this place is so mismanaged, just leave.
Quite frankly, I'm tired of the childish complaints.
Gotcha - enjoy your time with Rocky, just don't leave him alone with the kids.
Imo the inconsistency of your reactions to people's posts is driving a lot of great posters away.
One doesn't need to mention Republicans, Democrats, Trump, Clinton, Sanders or anyone else in order to create a political post that is hostile and clearly meant to incite the opposing side of the political spectrum. Yet you seem to ignore may such posts while reacting strongly to those that are not congruent with your political perspective. And your excuse often is that "I didn't see it, email me" when in some cases it is obvious that you had seen it (and in some cases responded on the same thread).
You'll likely label this confirmation bias, but I tried my best to address this respectfully. I've said on several occasions lately that great posters are being banned or making themselves absent from the site, while attention whores and worthless posters remain ad nauseum. And imo that's too bad, because BBI was a better place when those great posters were around.
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You see what you want to see.
If you think this place is so mismanaged, just leave.
Quite frankly, I'm tired of the childish complaints.
Gotcha - enjoy your time with Rocky, just don't leave him alone with the kids.
Imo the inconsistency of your reactions to people's posts is driving a lot of great posters away.
One doesn't need to mention Republicans, Democrats, Trump, Clinton, Sanders or anyone else in order to create a political post that is hostile and clearly meant to incite the opposing side of the political spectrum. Yet you seem to ignore may such posts while reacting strongly to those that are not congruent with your political perspective. And your excuse often is that "I didn't see it, email me" when in some cases it is obvious that you had seen it (and in some cases responded on the same thread).
You'll likely label this confirmation bias, but I tried my best to address this respectfully. I've said on several occasions lately that great posters are being banned or making themselves absent from the site, while attention whores and worthless posters remain ad nauseum. And imo that's too bad, because BBI was a better place when those great posters were around.
Yat... the problem with your argument is the facts don't support it. I am personally involved in very few bannings anymore on BBI. As far as I know, I am the only conservative on the moderation team. Have I banned people for political posts? Yes, but I've banned people from both sides over the years and most were allowed to come right back if they agreed to stop the posts. It's hard to define a redline with political posts because the NFL and politics have become so intertwined, but one clear redline I've stated over and over again is not to start naming politician names because those posts ALWAYS spiral a thread out of control. And I haven't seen posts on BBI bringing up liberal politician names in recent weeks, only conservatives. As I said the other day, Chris did it twice in a matter of minutes. I e-mailed him the next day asking him to work with me on this, and he didn't respond.
Again, I think you guys are seeing what you want to see. Gidie, Boldruler, Gary, and I are not targeting liberals on this site.
If you want to stay out of hot water, stop bringing up politics. If you think we've missed something, e-mail us.
Some regular posters have gotten banned in recent months because they keep it up and up... there are a few on the site right now that are on the verge of getting canned because they keep doing it.
I know it is insulting, but it reminds me of dealing with kids who keep trying to push to see how much the can get away with.
Just stop it. BBI isn't the old BBI anymore. We don't allow politics.
Now, as Banks said above, we could have chosen to bring the ban hammer down on a number of people here, but I felt this was more of a clear-the-air thread.
Confused? When in doubt, don't get political.
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comes through very clearly...but I believe that you don't see it. And I don't think that any feedback you have gotten or will get will lead you to see it.
Imo the inconsistency of your reactions to people's posts is driving a lot of great posters away.
One doesn't need to mention Republicans, Democrats, Trump, Clinton, Sanders or anyone else in order to create a political post that is hostile and clearly meant to incite the opposing side of the political spectrum. Yet you seem to ignore may such posts while reacting strongly to those that are not congruent with your political perspective. And your excuse often is that "I didn't see it, email me" when in some cases it is obvious that you had seen it (and in some cases responded on the same thread).
You'll likely label this confirmation bias, but I tried my best to address this respectfully. I've said on several occasions lately that great posters are being banned or making themselves absent from the site, while attention whores and worthless posters remain ad nauseum. And imo that's too bad, because BBI was a better place when those great posters were around.
Yat... the problem with your argument is the facts don't support it. I am personally involved in very few bannings anymore on BBI. As far as I know, I am the only conservative on the moderation team. Have I banned people for political posts? Yes, but I've banned people from both sides over the years and most were allowed to come right back if they agreed to stop the posts. It's hard to define a redline with political posts because the NFL and politics have become so intertwined, but one clear redline I've stated over and over again is not to start naming politician names because those posts ALWAYS spiral a thread out of control. And I haven't seen posts on BBI bringing up liberal politician names in recent weeks, only conservatives. As I said the other day, Chris did it twice in a matter of minutes. I e-mailed him the next day asking him to work with me on this, and he didn't respond.
Again, I think you guys are seeing what you want to see. Gidie, Boldruler, Gary, and I are not targeting liberals on this site.
If you want to stay out of hot water, stop bringing up politics. If you think we've missed something, e-mail us.
Some regular posters have gotten banned in recent months because they keep it up and up... there are a few on the site right now that are on the verge of getting canned because they keep doing it.
I know it is insulting, but it reminds me of dealing with kids who keep trying to push to see how much the can get away with.
Just stop it. BBI isn't the old BBI anymore. We don't allow politics.
Eric,
With all due respect (and I sincerely mean that), it's still bizarre that I love liverwurst is allowed to remain here after this thread. Even after being warned, he then follows up with his "your boyfriend will thank you for it" post and that's not enough for even a timeout? I think that's the sort of thing that causes some to wonder.
I trust your word that you may not have seen it, but it's a pretty egregiously offensive post coming right on the heels of being warned. And his political view is clear. So when he manages to survive that sort of post, I think posters have a reason to at least ask why.
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Where this thread started going south was when Blogger made his post. I issued a warning. Then Liver stupidly made his post. I issued a warning. The subsequent post you are linking to isn't political. It's him being abusive to others who took offense to his original post and also got abusive.
So from my point-of-view, you've got two sides in a name-calling pissing match over a stupid, original provocative post that he already had been warned about.
The net result... he's on my watch list. But there are other people on this thread who now are on my watch list because they couldn't control themselves either.
I don't understand it. It's pretty stupid to keep bringing up politics on a thread that you know a moderator is engaged on.
Thanks, Eric. I appreciate your response and it helps to understand where you're coming from on this. I know you're in an unenviable position with this sort of stuff and I'm certainly not in favor of political posts here (I can find plenty of stuff to argue about on here without having to go down that rabbithole).
To me, this thread represents some of the worst of BBI. You would think people would cool it. Blogger's post was stupid (and he's not a stupid guy). After I warned him, Liver's post was even more stupid. And then of course, others can't let that go and escalate it even further. And then Liver's dander is up and he won't let it go. At this pissing match. And some people wonder why we just delete some threads. It's the ones that turn into the messy pissing matches where no one is innocent that always get deleted now.