"I think Eli needs to do a better job playing with fast feet and he I think he needs to sit on that back foot in the pocket. We're seeing a lot of man coverage, so the receivers, it's going to take a little time for them to get open, so everything may not be rhythmical. He's got to play with fast feet, he has to sit on his back foot and be ready to hitch into a throw. Things aren't always clean in this league. You watch film of the end zones throughout the league and you're seeing a lot of dirty pockets."
This season was started with McAdoo laying blame on Eli for his offensive struggles. And it has continued into this season. Link - ( New Window )
They both evade responsibility with doublespeak: “It’s all on me I’m the head coach and this falls on my shoulders, but everyone is accountable...”. “I’m the GM, it’s all on me but everyone is accountable...”. “Eli’s done so much and I respect him but everyone is accountable...”. McAdoof and Reach are cut from the same cloth.
Attitude follows leadership. Get rid of GM, the entire coaching staff. Start over.
everything. BigMac places blame and seems to hold everyone else accountable but him. BigMac is no where near the professional Manning is. He should shut up and try to learn something from a pro like Manning.
So he has an awareness of something and rather than use this as something for an adjustment, he'll just use it as an excuse. Nice.
He's saying he's straight and to the point. No need to glad hand someone because they won a Super Bowl years ago if they are not performing to expectations now.
motivation to make the comments he has is because his system requires a QB like Aaron rodgers (who doesn't grow on a tree), should cause one to look harder at changing the system.
that seem to think the best solution every time adversity hits is to "blow it up"
Its a pathetic showing of lack of patience and understanding on how things work in this league
An frankly unless you're part of the team (and we arent because we are just fans) you really have no fucking clue what you're talking about.
You want to blow it up, fine go for it but expect the next 3 years of being at the bottom of the division which will be less attracting for future players to resign aka OBJ.
An I'm sure the same fans will have amnesia about all of this and be calling out the organization again
And Eli should be held to a higher standard than his current play. But across the board, there are A LOT of people who need that message stronger than Eli starting with the man in the mirror, than Spags, than the OLine and the DBfield.
Eli? If is much further down the list than McAdoo has placed him.
ownership is saying the same thing about the coach. There is no reason for him to say these things in the press. If you truly feel that way about Eli, why make these statements? He's clearly pointing his finger at Eli to protect himself and that's pathetic.
But can still be right with his concerns about Eli. His general cluelessness as a leader of men and some of his shortcomings from an interpersonal
Standpoint don’t disqualify him from having an opinion on Eli’s performance when he is literally watching these things more closely and with more context than anyone walking the planet
And wouldn’t pile on anymore, but F that, this guy needs to meet the fate slade made up for him. Sick of his stupid face and even worse ability to communicate. If he doesn’t think Eli deserves anything because of past accomplishments then let’s throw last years 11-5 record out the window and look at BMs current record. Bye asshole.
And Eli should be held to a higher standard than his current play. But across the board, there are A LOT of people who need that message stronger than Eli starting with the man in the mirror, than Spags, than the OLine and the DBfield.
Eli? If is much further down the list than McAdoo has placed him.
Here's the thing though... as Eli has said in public, the coach knows that he can take that public criticism. In addition, the coach probably knows (and we know based on what we've seen from some of these guys) that people like Eli Apple and Ereck Flowers will not respond well to public criticism.
Look Eli isn't going to be the QB of the Giants much longer Â
and he's no longer one of the top 5 QBs in he NFL, still in the top half at least though. The issue I have with McAdoo is that he been dumping on Eli for over a year and only on Eli. If the Giants had 22 starters playing at Eli's level they'd be one of the best teams in the NFL.
RE: It’s possible that mcadoo is not a good head coach Â
But can still be right with his concerns about Eli. His general cluelessness as a leader of men and some of his shortcomings from an interpersonal
Standpoint don’t disqualify him from having an opinion on Eli’s performance when he is literally watching these things more closely and with more context than anyone walking the planet
You don't need to be Bill Walsh to see when Eli misses a wide open receiver or throws an inaccurate pass to an open receiver. People get killed on BBI for saying that... I can't imagine the response is much better when it's said from the podium. Doesn't mean he sucks or he needs to get hung in Times Square. It just means they need the QB to play better, even with the obstacles like the o-line and receivers.
I've felt since the day McAdoo became HC that he was Â
looking to replace Eli. When he came in as OC,Eli worked overtime to acclimate himself to Mac's offense. It's a shame that as HC he's never acclimated his offense to fit Eli.He's constantly gone out of his way to critique Eli's play,in a mostly negative fashion.Some coaches are meant to be HCs,others aren't. McAdoo is in the latter category!
and at very least wasted energy for McAdoo to even talk about Eli in press conferences. In the main, Eli has played well enough, while other aspects of the team have fizzled. If those other pieces don't flow into the crapper as they have, Eli Manning would not be on anyone's radar for negative articles or comments.
Everything's relative. And while this team is garbage in 2017, Eli is not. He deserves the respect to not be treated as a guy who "needs to be held accountable."
No shit, Ben.
Some might look at the comments and feel better. I read them and it solidified my disinterest and overall irritation in the thought of this guy as the Giants head coach going forward.
I'll hope for the best, like always. But I am cemented in the "not a fan" club.
RE: Look Eli isn't going to be the QB of the Giants much longer Â
and he's no longer one of the top 5 QBs in he NFL, still in the top half at least though. The issue I have with McAdoo is that he been dumping on Eli for over a year and only on Eli. If the Giants had 22 starters playing at Eli's level they'd be one of the best teams in the NFL.
IMO, that's simply not true. He didn't play well last week. He didn't play well versus the Chargers. He's had 2 good games and another in which he did exactly what was needed of him however little that was (DEN). In the other games, I'll give him a pass. That's not a good ratio through 8 games.
You wanna say if they had 22 players preparing like Eli or giving effort like Eli that they'd be much better, I agree. But his on the field performance is as much a part of the problem as anyone else. I love Eli, but failure to acknowledge the role his play has in this is the sign of a fanboy.
based on the players they have. My favorite example is Don Shula. He went from a punishing ground game with Griese, Czonka, Morris even Woodley. etc to air america with Marino and the smurfs. I'm sure he preferred the run game more but he went with what he had.
RE: RE: Look Eli isn't going to be the QB of the Giants much longer Â
and he's no longer one of the top 5 QBs in he NFL, still in the top half at least though. The issue I have with McAdoo is that he been dumping on Eli for over a year and only on Eli. If the Giants had 22 starters playing at Eli's level they'd be one of the best teams in the NFL.
IMO, that's simply not true. He didn't play well last week. He didn't play well versus the Chargers. He's had 2 good games and another in which he did exactly what was needed of him however little that was (DEN). In the other games, I'll give him a pass. That's not a good ratio through 8 games.
You wanna say if they had 22 players preparing like Eli or giving effort like Eli that they'd be much better, I agree. But his on the field performance is as much a part of the problem as anyone else. I love Eli, but failure to acknowledge the role his play has in this is the sign of a fanboy.
I like this McAdoo quote and I support it 100%. Everyone having an issue with it is just looking for someone to yell at.
Everyone on this team is responsible for the 1-7 record, the coach the most of them.
NFL is a performance based league, and the performance of this team is horrific and I suspect coaches (if not all of them) will be fired. I really don't care how or what McAdoo says to the press. I just care about W's.
I'd like to see McAdoo and the whole staff get fired, but I wouldn't be completely pissed off if he stayed and he was able to hire a full staff all by himself instead of a patchwork of the previous staff.
He doesn't really yell at any kid other than his own, who he's brutal to. The kid plays QB (better suited to OL) and can't throw the ball more than 10 yards. The genius designs plays where his kid has to throw it 20 ??? The obvious results (incomplete or pick) just draws more yelling from dad. It truly is a spectacle I won't miss at all.
A coach's first job is to put players in a position to succeed. McAdoo seems unwilling or unable to do that.
So he has an awareness of something and rather than use this as something for an adjustment, he'll just use it as an excuse. Nice.
This is the typical Reese/McAdoo game. Make a claim that they accept blame and then a few sentences later come out with the qualifier that allows them to place blame elsewhere.
Go back and read Reeses last press conference. It's the same damn startegy
"I think Eli needs to do a better job playing with fast feet and he I think he needs to sit on that back foot in the pocket. We're seeing a lot of man coverage, so the receivers, it's going to take a little time for them to get open, so everything may not be rhythmical. He's got to play with fast feet, he has to sit on his back foot and be ready to hitch into a throw. Things aren't always clean in this league. You watch film of the end zones throughout the league and you're seeing a lot of dirty pockets."
This season was started with McAdoo laying blame on Eli for his offensive struggles. And it has continued into this season. Link - ( New Window )
This offense doesn't llok so hot in Green Bay either without Rodgers running it and improvising
I think "Accountablity" won the latest game of Blue Blue Scrabble Â
because he knows Eli can take it, while some of the younger players may not be able to. That said, the constant criticism does get tired, and exposes McAdoo as someone who doesn't have the answers.
I've defended Eli as strenuously as anyone on this board, but his play over the past year and a half deserves criticism. He hasn't played well, and I've seen little over that time to indicate that he is still a top half of the league QB. Maybe it's the crap offense he's been handed, but by all accounts, he strongly lobbied for McAdoo, so he knew what offense he was getting.
RE: I've thought all along that McAdoo calls out Eli Â
because he knows Eli can take it, while some of the younger players may not be able to. That said, the constant criticism does get tired, and exposes McAdoo as someone who doesn't have the answers.
I've defended Eli as strenuously as anyone on this board, but his play over the past year and a half deserves criticism. He hasn't played well, and I've seen little over that time to indicate that he is still a top half of the league QB. Maybe it's the crap offense he's been handed, but by all accounts, he strongly lobbied for McAdoo, so he knew what offense he was getting.
I don't think Eli has played poorly. He is playing in an offense that hasn't adjusted from the first week of last year until now to the defenses they are seeing. The playcalling and gameplan seems to want him to throw a lot of VERY short passes to get it out quickly. They run the same personnel package almost every down and they are telegraphing their plays. It is embarrassing when the D is calling out the play (that has happened on many occasions). Give Eli a real HC and a real OC and he is fine.
As an OC, I thought McAdoo did a good job. He hasn't run the same offense as 2014-2015 since becoming HC.
RE: I've thought all along that McAdoo calls out Eli Â
because he knows Eli can take it, while some of the younger players may not be able to. That said, the constant criticism does get tired, and exposes McAdoo as someone who doesn't have the answers.
I've defended Eli as strenuously as anyone on this board, but his play over the past year and a half deserves criticism. He hasn't played well, and I've seen little over that time to indicate that he is still a top half of the league QB. Maybe it's the crap offense he's been handed, but by all accounts, he strongly lobbied for McAdoo, so he knew what offense he was getting.
He’s in an offense that requires a great amount of mobility. Macadoo came here promising that he could make Eli better. He installed his system and Eli has progressively gotten worse. This falls right on Macadoo feet. He said he would have Eli completing over 70% of his throws. Now he can’t reach that number so it’s Eli’s fault? F that. BM came here with a promise and hasn’t delivered. He’s the one that needs to be held accountable.
Where it seems like this is a contingent of fans who seem like bigger Eli fans than Giants fans. I appreciate Eli’s career here as much as the next guy but I just find a lot of this weird. No need to name names and if you take offense to this post it’s probably because you are one of them
because he knows Eli can take it, while some of the younger players may not be able to. That said, the constant criticism does get tired, and exposes McAdoo as someone who doesn't have the answers.
I've defended Eli as strenuously as anyone on this board, but his play over the past year and a half deserves criticism. He hasn't played well, and I've seen little over that time to indicate that he is still a top half of the league QB. Maybe it's the crap offense he's been handed, but by all accounts, he strongly lobbied for McAdoo, so he knew what offense he was getting.
He’s in an offense that requires a great amount of mobility. Macadoo came here promising that he could make Eli better. He installed his system and Eli has progressively gotten worse. This falls right on Macadoo feet. He said he would have Eli completing over 70% of his throws. Now he can’t reach that number so it’s Eli’s fault? F that. BM came here with a promise and hasn’t delivered. He’s the one that needs to be held accountable.
That's just not true. the offense he installed when he came over saw 2 of Eli's best seasons. He is running a different offense the last 2 years. I don't know if Coughlin's influence still existed in 2014-2015 over the offense. But, that version of the WCO was working.
RE: Look Eli isn't going to be the QB of the Giants much longer Â
and he's no longer one of the top 5 QBs in he NFL, still in the top half at least though. The issue I have with McAdoo is that he been dumping on Eli for over a year and only on Eli. If the Giants had 22 starters playing at Eli's level they'd be one of the best teams in the NFL.
No order:
1. Brees
2. Brady
3. Watson
4. Smith
5. Rodgers
6. Wentz
7. Carr
8. Wilson
9. Mariota
10. Winston
11. Ryan
12. Cousins
13. Goff
14. Ben
15. Stafford
So at best Eli is 16th. And that's not counting that guys like McCown are out playing him.
RE: RE: RE: I've thought all along that McAdoo calls out Eli Â
because he knows Eli can take it, while some of the younger players may not be able to. That said, the constant criticism does get tired, and exposes McAdoo as someone who doesn't have the answers.
I've defended Eli as strenuously as anyone on this board, but his play over the past year and a half deserves criticism. He hasn't played well, and I've seen little over that time to indicate that he is still a top half of the league QB. Maybe it's the crap offense he's been handed, but by all accounts, he strongly lobbied for McAdoo, so he knew what offense he was getting.
He’s in an offense that requires a great amount of mobility. Macadoo came here promising that he could make Eli better. He installed his system and Eli has progressively gotten worse. This falls right on Macadoo feet. He said he would have Eli completing over 70% of his throws. Now he can’t reach that number so it’s Eli’s fault? F that. BM came here with a promise and hasn’t delivered. He’s the one that needs to be held accountable.
That's just not true. the offense he installed when he came over saw 2 of Eli's best seasons. He is running a different offense the last 2 years. I don't know if Coughlin's influence still existed in 2014-2015 over the offense. But, that version of the WCO was working.
It’s my understanding he was still using TCs playbook the first two seasons. Making it not his offense.
They both evade responsibility with doublespeak: “It’s all on me I’m the head coach and this falls on my shoulders, but everyone is accountable...”. “I’m the GM, it’s all on me but everyone is accountable...”. “Eli’s done so much and I respect him but everyone is accountable...”. McAdoof and Reach are cut from the same cloth.
Attitude follows leadership. Get rid of GM, the entire coaching staff. Start over.
Really? I'm not sure I'm going to take lessons in "leadership and accountability" from somebody calling them "McAdoof and Reach".
Nothing but manchildren around here when they're losing.
Where it seems like this is a contingent of fans who seem like bigger Eli fans than Giants fans. I appreciate Eli’s career here as much as the next guy but I just find a lot of this weird. No need to name names and if you take offense to this post it’s probably because you are one of them
it definitely feels like this is Eli Manning Interactive some days
RE: RE: Look Eli isn't going to be the QB of the Giants much longer Â
and he's no longer one of the top 5 QBs in he NFL, still in the top half at least though. The issue I have with McAdoo is that he been dumping on Eli for over a year and only on Eli. If the Giants had 22 starters playing at Eli's level they'd be one of the best teams in the NFL.
IMO, that's simply not true. He didn't play well last week. He didn't play well versus the Chargers. He's had 2 good games and another in which he did exactly what was needed of him however little that was (DEN). In the other games, I'll give him a pass. That's not a good ratio through 8 games.
You wanna say if they had 22 players preparing like Eli or giving effort like Eli that they'd be much better, I agree. But his on the field performance is as much a part of the problem as anyone else. I love Eli, but failure to acknowledge the role his play has in this is the sign of a fanboy.
This may come as a shock to you, but every qb misses open receivers and gasp some passes even miss high. What is missing in this offense is opportunity. We are near the bottom of the league in yards per attempt and in 20+ yard completions.
You see a miss on the one or two deep passes we try all game and conclude "Eli is missing deep passes", never mind that other qb's are getting 4 or 5 chances a game on a deep throw. We've had 3 40+ yard completions- 1 more than such luminaries and part-time players as Hogan, Semien and Trubisky. When Kizer and McCown have more 20+ yard completions than Eli Manning and when Eli is at a historic low in yards/attempt while maintaining a completion pct, the problem lies elsewhere.
It's a bad offense and has been since McAdoo was given sole control over it. That falls squarely on the supposedly offensively-minded coach.
Can we put this to nonsense about Eli/QB controversy to bed already?
This season was started with McAdoo laying blame on Eli for his offensive struggles. And it has continued into this season.
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Here is how I read your post
Can we put this to nonsense about Eli/QB controversy to bed already?
Attitude follows leadership. Get rid of GM, the entire coaching staff. Start over.
So he has an awareness of something and rather than use this as something for an adjustment, he'll just use it as an excuse. Nice.
So he has an awareness of something and rather than use this as something for an adjustment, he'll just use it as an excuse. Nice.
He's saying he's straight and to the point. No need to glad hand someone because they won a Super Bowl years ago if they are not performing to expectations now.
Its a pathetic showing of lack of patience and understanding on how things work in this league
An frankly unless you're part of the team (and we arent because we are just fans) you really have no fucking clue what you're talking about.
You want to blow it up, fine go for it but expect the next 3 years of being at the bottom of the division which will be less attracting for future players to resign aka OBJ.
An I'm sure the same fans will have amnesia about all of this and be calling out the organization again
RIGHT!!!! There is "accountability" for 1-7 Mr. McAdoo.
Eli? If is much further down the list than McAdoo has placed him.
Very sorry if your parents didn't say "I love You" before bedtime!! Does not give you the license to being a total DOUCHEBAG!!!
Standpoint don’t disqualify him from having an opinion on Eli’s performance when he is literally watching these things more closely and with more context than anyone walking the planet
Eli? If is much further down the list than McAdoo has placed him.
Here's the thing though... as Eli has said in public, the coach knows that he can take that public criticism. In addition, the coach probably knows (and we know based on what we've seen from some of these guys) that people like Eli Apple and Ereck Flowers will not respond well to public criticism.
Standpoint don’t disqualify him from having an opinion on Eli’s performance when he is literally watching these things more closely and with more context than anyone walking the planet
You don't need to be Bill Walsh to see when Eli misses a wide open receiver or throws an inaccurate pass to an open receiver. People get killed on BBI for saying that... I can't imagine the response is much better when it's said from the podium. Doesn't mean he sucks or he needs to get hung in Times Square. It just means they need the QB to play better, even with the obstacles like the o-line and receivers.
Everything's relative. And while this team is garbage in 2017, Eli is not. He deserves the respect to not be treated as a guy who "needs to be held accountable."
No shit, Ben.
Some might look at the comments and feel better. I read them and it solidified my disinterest and overall irritation in the thought of this guy as the Giants head coach going forward.
I'll hope for the best, like always. But I am cemented in the "not a fan" club.
IMO, that's simply not true. He didn't play well last week. He didn't play well versus the Chargers. He's had 2 good games and another in which he did exactly what was needed of him however little that was (DEN). In the other games, I'll give him a pass. That's not a good ratio through 8 games.
You wanna say if they had 22 players preparing like Eli or giving effort like Eli that they'd be much better, I agree. But his on the field performance is as much a part of the problem as anyone else. I love Eli, but failure to acknowledge the role his play has in this is the sign of a fanboy.
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and he's no longer one of the top 5 QBs in he NFL, still in the top half at least though. The issue I have with McAdoo is that he been dumping on Eli for over a year and only on Eli. If the Giants had 22 starters playing at Eli's level they'd be one of the best teams in the NFL.
IMO, that's simply not true. He didn't play well last week. He didn't play well versus the Chargers. He's had 2 good games and another in which he did exactly what was needed of him however little that was (DEN). In the other games, I'll give him a pass. That's not a good ratio through 8 games.
You wanna say if they had 22 players preparing like Eli or giving effort like Eli that they'd be much better, I agree. But his on the field performance is as much a part of the problem as anyone else. I love Eli, but failure to acknowledge the role his play has in this is the sign of a fanboy.
Well said.
Everyone on this team is responsible for the 1-7 record, the coach the most of them.
NFL is a performance based league, and the performance of this team is horrific and I suspect coaches (if not all of them) will be fired. I really don't care how or what McAdoo says to the press. I just care about W's.
I'd like to see McAdoo and the whole staff get fired, but I wouldn't be completely pissed off if he stayed and he was able to hire a full staff all by himself instead of a patchwork of the previous staff.
A coach's first job is to put players in a position to succeed. McAdoo seems unwilling or unable to do that.
So he has an awareness of something and rather than use this as something for an adjustment, he'll just use it as an excuse. Nice.
This is the typical Reese/McAdoo game. Make a claim that they accept blame and then a few sentences later come out with the qualifier that allows them to place blame elsewhere.
Go back and read Reeses last press conference. It's the same damn startegy
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"I think Eli needs to do a better job playing with fast feet and he I think he needs to sit on that back foot in the pocket. We're seeing a lot of man coverage, so the receivers, it's going to take a little time for them to get open, so everything may not be rhythmical. He's got to play with fast feet, he has to sit on his back foot and be ready to hitch into a throw. Things aren't always clean in this league. You watch film of the end zones throughout the league and you're seeing a lot of dirty pockets."
This season was started with McAdoo laying blame on Eli for his offensive struggles. And it has continued into this season. Link - ( New Window )
This offense doesn't llok so hot in Green Bay either without Rodgers running it and improvising
I've defended Eli as strenuously as anyone on this board, but his play over the past year and a half deserves criticism. He hasn't played well, and I've seen little over that time to indicate that he is still a top half of the league QB. Maybe it's the crap offense he's been handed, but by all accounts, he strongly lobbied for McAdoo, so he knew what offense he was getting.
I've defended Eli as strenuously as anyone on this board, but his play over the past year and a half deserves criticism. He hasn't played well, and I've seen little over that time to indicate that he is still a top half of the league QB. Maybe it's the crap offense he's been handed, but by all accounts, he strongly lobbied for McAdoo, so he knew what offense he was getting.
As an OC, I thought McAdoo did a good job. He hasn't run the same offense as 2014-2015 since becoming HC.
I've defended Eli as strenuously as anyone on this board, but his play over the past year and a half deserves criticism. He hasn't played well, and I've seen little over that time to indicate that he is still a top half of the league QB. Maybe it's the crap offense he's been handed, but by all accounts, he strongly lobbied for McAdoo, so he knew what offense he was getting.
He’s in an offense that requires a great amount of mobility. Macadoo came here promising that he could make Eli better. He installed his system and Eli has progressively gotten worse. This falls right on Macadoo feet. He said he would have Eli completing over 70% of his throws. Now he can’t reach that number so it’s Eli’s fault? F that. BM came here with a promise and hasn’t delivered. He’s the one that needs to be held accountable.
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because he knows Eli can take it, while some of the younger players may not be able to. That said, the constant criticism does get tired, and exposes McAdoo as someone who doesn't have the answers.
I've defended Eli as strenuously as anyone on this board, but his play over the past year and a half deserves criticism. He hasn't played well, and I've seen little over that time to indicate that he is still a top half of the league QB. Maybe it's the crap offense he's been handed, but by all accounts, he strongly lobbied for McAdoo, so he knew what offense he was getting.
He’s in an offense that requires a great amount of mobility. Macadoo came here promising that he could make Eli better. He installed his system and Eli has progressively gotten worse. This falls right on Macadoo feet. He said he would have Eli completing over 70% of his throws. Now he can’t reach that number so it’s Eli’s fault? F that. BM came here with a promise and hasn’t delivered. He’s the one that needs to be held accountable.
No order:
1. Brees
2. Brady
3. Watson
4. Smith
5. Rodgers
6. Wentz
7. Carr
8. Wilson
9. Mariota
10. Winston
11. Ryan
12. Cousins
13. Goff
14. Ben
15. Stafford
So at best Eli is 16th. And that's not counting that guys like McCown are out playing him.
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because he knows Eli can take it, while some of the younger players may not be able to. That said, the constant criticism does get tired, and exposes McAdoo as someone who doesn't have the answers.
I've defended Eli as strenuously as anyone on this board, but his play over the past year and a half deserves criticism. He hasn't played well, and I've seen little over that time to indicate that he is still a top half of the league QB. Maybe it's the crap offense he's been handed, but by all accounts, he strongly lobbied for McAdoo, so he knew what offense he was getting.
He’s in an offense that requires a great amount of mobility. Macadoo came here promising that he could make Eli better. He installed his system and Eli has progressively gotten worse. This falls right on Macadoo feet. He said he would have Eli completing over 70% of his throws. Now he can’t reach that number so it’s Eli’s fault? F that. BM came here with a promise and hasn’t delivered. He’s the one that needs to be held accountable.
That's just not true. the offense he installed when he came over saw 2 of Eli's best seasons. He is running a different offense the last 2 years. I don't know if Coughlin's influence still existed in 2014-2015 over the offense. But, that version of the WCO was working.
It’s my understanding he was still using TCs playbook the first two seasons. Making it not his offense.
Attitude follows leadership. Get rid of GM, the entire coaching staff. Start over.
Really? I'm not sure I'm going to take lessons in "leadership and accountability" from somebody calling them "McAdoof and Reach".
Nothing but manchildren around here when they're losing.
See how the Packers are faring now
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and he's no longer one of the top 5 QBs in he NFL, still in the top half at least though. The issue I have with McAdoo is that he been dumping on Eli for over a year and only on Eli. If the Giants had 22 starters playing at Eli's level they'd be one of the best teams in the NFL.
IMO, that's simply not true. He didn't play well last week. He didn't play well versus the Chargers. He's had 2 good games and another in which he did exactly what was needed of him however little that was (DEN). In the other games, I'll give him a pass. That's not a good ratio through 8 games.
You wanna say if they had 22 players preparing like Eli or giving effort like Eli that they'd be much better, I agree. But his on the field performance is as much a part of the problem as anyone else. I love Eli, but failure to acknowledge the role his play has in this is the sign of a fanboy.
You see a miss on the one or two deep passes we try all game and conclude "Eli is missing deep passes", never mind that other qb's are getting 4 or 5 chances a game on a deep throw. We've had 3 40+ yard completions- 1 more than such luminaries and part-time players as Hogan, Semien and Trubisky. When Kizer and McCown have more 20+ yard completions than Eli Manning and when Eli is at a historic low in yards/attempt while maintaining a completion pct, the problem lies elsewhere.
It's a bad offense and has been since McAdoo was given sole control over it. That falls squarely on the supposedly offensively-minded coach.