Oklahoma is really playing lights out tonight against TCU and Mayfield is quite the stud. Reminds me alot of Drew Brees in his demeanor and in how he throws the football. I can only go by what I see, but if he is not one of the top QBs and Rosen is that much better then Rosen must be very special. He would certainly be fun to watch should we go QB in the first round as he can really make all the throws. Is he considered a day one prospect by the pundits? Do his off field issues make him drop into the second round or were these just maturity issues and corrected? Fun to watch and interested in what others have to think. Fire away.
Also think he gets away with some throws that won’t fly at the next level.
Could be a stud or bust in the nfl. That’s why it’s such a tough position to project.
His stats are dazzling, but shortly we'll hear the rag arm and gimmick offense criticisms. Yes, he's got the same "rag arm" Philip Rivers had in school. And he can only play in the offense of the school he's attending. So I guess those are valid criticisms.
He's an exciting QB to watch. His game is all about movement and he routinely extends plays with his feet. And he's also a threat to pull the ball down and run. Plus, he's the most excited player on the team. He's a one man cheering squad. I've seen him run the entire length of the field to hoist the receiver in congratulations.
Put him into as system where he can do the the things he can do well and he may become memorable. Try to turn him into something else, and you've got pretty good bust potential.
I've seen round projections for him anywhere from 1st to 3rd. But I would have to think even the Giants would do due diligence with him.
Passes attempted: 27
Passing yards: 333
Average/attempt: 12.3
TDs: 3
Uniform #: 6
His stats are dazzling, but shortly we'll hear the rag arm and gimmick offense criticisms. Yes, he's got the same "rag arm" Philip Rivers had in school. And he can only play in the offense of the school he's attending. So I guess those are valid criticisms.
He's an exciting QB to watch. His game is all about movement and he routinely extends plays with his feet. And he's also a threat to pull the ball down and run. Plus, he's the most excited player on the team. He's a one man cheering squad. I've seen him run the entire length of the field to hoist the receiver in congratulations.
Put him into as system where he can do the the things he can do well and he may become memorable. Try to turn him into something else, and you've got pretty good bust potential.
I've seen round projections for him anywhere from 1st to 3rd. But I would have to think even the Giants would do due diligence with him.
You put it really well in your 4th paragraph. He's gonna need a lot of bootleg action imo to get him moving, it'll help him improvise and he's excellent at throwing off balanced. He's smaller so people automatically knock the arm, but he can really sling it.
Quite possible Darnold stays in school. He and none of the big 5 have been outstanding to date and may come down to how they close out their season..then the bowl games...then the Combine/ pro day.
I advocated Mayfield in a recent thread as the most consistent over his college career.FWIW.
No, they wouldn’t.
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here I've read make the Brees comparison, and that's exactly the impression I got last season when stumbling upon him when looking at some of the other players on that team like Perine.
His stats are dazzling, but shortly we'll hear the rag arm and gimmick offense criticisms. Yes, he's got the same "rag arm" Philip Rivers had in school. And he can only play in the offense of the school he's attending. So I guess those are valid criticisms.
He's an exciting QB to watch. His game is all about movement and he routinely extends plays with his feet. And he's also a threat to pull the ball down and run. Plus, he's the most excited player on the team. He's a one man cheering squad. I've seen him run the entire length of the field to hoist the receiver in congratulations.
Put him into as system where he can do the the things he can do well and he may become memorable. Try to turn him into something else, and you've got pretty good bust potential.
I've seen round projections for him anywhere from 1st to 3rd. But I would have to think even the Giants would do due diligence with him.
You put it really well in your 4th paragraph. He's gonna need a lot of bootleg action imo to get him moving, it'll help him improvise and he's excellent at throwing off balanced. He's smaller so people automatically knock the arm, but he can really sling it.
The other player he reminded me a little of is Fran Tarkenton. Though Mayfield is more physical. He's 6''1" & about 220, so he's a pretty solid kid.
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You mean the same Davis Webb who was a backup to Pat Mahomes?
If you go back far enough, every NFL player was a backup to someone else at some point in their amateur or professional career.
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Giants would be nuts to pass on him.
Quite possible Darnold stays in school. He and none of the big 5 have been outstanding to date and may come down to how they close out their season..then the bowl games...then the Combine/ pro day.
I advocated Mayfield in a recent thread as the most consistent over his college career.FWIW.
If any one of them are going in the top 15 of the 1st round, they'd be crazy to stay in school regardless of the season they are having.
It’s clear he wants a mobile QB who gives options in various spreads.
I like Rosen a lot. Very strong arm and an accurate passer. His "attitude" issues have been blown way out of proportion. Yes, he is a bit of a statue in the pocket but so (was/is) Brady, Peyton, Eli and many other top QBs. (Don't believe the lie that all pocket QBs are going to be replaced by mobile QBs. There are very few Aaron Rodgers out there. QBs with strong, accurate arms will ALWAYS be rated higher than mobile QBs with lesser throwing tools.)
Daronld scares me. He may well have the highest ceiling of all the QBs but through 11 games he has 11 interceptions and has also fumbled the ball 7 times. (I appreciate Eli, but I don't want another QB who fumbles that much.)
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....who was a back up to Davis Webb at Texas Tech?
You mean the same Davis Webb who was a backup to Pat Mahomes?
If you go back far enough, every NFL player was a backup to someone else at some point in their amateur or professional career.
To be fair, Mahomes was a top 10 pick
Also think he gets away with some throws that won’t fly at the next level.
Could be a stud or bust in the nfl. That’s why it’s such a tough position to project.
Gets away with some throws that won’t fly at the next level hmmmm I don’t know where you get that or what your even referring to
He also doesn’t operate out of a pro style O so you will need to get him in and look at his progressions on a whiteboard or using video to see if he can make the transition
Mayfield is fun to watch hard not to like him the height
worries you a bit but his ability to move around will help negate that . To me it's not the end of the world if
we don't take a QB if someone wants to move up and we can
gain a few picks and get a guy like Chub and one of the
decent O-line players coming out . Possibly a center that
can anchor the inside unlike Richberg who should not be
re-signed .
Very true, but I'd still be surprised if the Giants draft a 6'1" QB.