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M.S. : 11/12/2017 7:02 am
...takes care of our number one issue as the Giants finds themselves in the unenviable position of looking up at divisional rivals with young stud QBs for the next decade:

With the third pick in the 2018 NFL Draft, the New York Giants select Josh Rosen, quarterback, UCLA.

This needs to happen. Badly. And this needs to happen with a new General Manager in place.

A new era begins for the New York Giants.

2018 First-round projection - ( New Window )
Equanimious St. Brown  
Modus Operandi : 11/12/2017 7:16 am : link
You're fucking with me. That isn't a real name.
The noise around Rosen concerns me  
Sean : 11/12/2017 7:23 am : link
Iíd prefer Darnold.
7 QBs in top 17picks, wow!  
George from PA : 11/12/2017 7:28 am : link
that would blow out any past QB draft.

Watch out for that monster DE out of NC State...  
M.S. : 11/12/2017 7:31 am : link

...Bradley Chubb!!!

He is a man among boys, and carries his 275 pounds like a trim wide receiver.

This guy is big, fast, agile, balanced, and everything else.

This dude is the total package. He looks the part and he plays the part.

A total f-ing destroyer.
Our QB choice  
Sammo85 : 11/12/2017 7:33 am : link
Depends on a lot of factors. Where and how we finish. Whether we get a new GM and HC (what kind of system?).

My rankings for QB  
Big Rick in FL : 11/12/2017 7:46 am : link
In order would be Rosen, Darnold, Mayfield, Allen, Lamar Jackson.

My list of all prospects in order would be Rosen, Darnold, Barkley, Chubb, Mayfield, Nelson, Fitzpatrick.

Need to lose today!! Although I'm not worried about the 49ers drafting a QB ahead of us. I'm worried about other teams jumping ahead of us. We lose today and we own the 2nd pick in the draft. Hopefully we can get a QB without trading up.
No thanks  
Mike in NY : 11/12/2017 7:46 am : link
Give me an elite Defensive player or trade down. When I watch Rosen play there is nothing that screams to me successful NFL QB. The two being talked about in First Round that interest me are Josh Allen of Wyoming (his team this year is probably one of the worst in terms of talent on offense surrounding him so I am not reading too much into numbers) and Ryan Finley of North Carolina State. Wild Card is Baker Mayfield, but I would need to see him on the whiteboard if he can recognize schemes, reads, etc. under Center and with multiple options.
If you think Josh Allen  
Big Rick in FL : 11/12/2017 7:58 am : link
Is anywhere near Josh Rosen you should probably reevaluate the way you assess players. His mechanics are great for a 20 year old. He's got plenty of arm strength. Very good vision and pocket presence.
Here's a quote from a guy  
Big Rick in FL : 11/12/2017 8:02 am : link
Who gets paid to scout draft prospects. Our very own Sy'56.

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The one that I think can be a legit star, however, is Josh Rosen/UCLA. He has the combination of repeatable throwing mechanics, arm power, accuracy, and feel in the pocket. He has had less help around him than all the other guys by far...none of the draft eligible QBs have had more drops by their targets than Rosen this year
RE: Here's a quote from a guy  
Ira : 11/12/2017 8:10 am : link
In comment 13686389 Big Rick in FL said:
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Who gets paid to scout draft prospects. Our very own Sy'56.



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The one that I think can be a legit star, however, is Josh Rosen/UCLA. He has the combination of repeatable throwing mechanics, arm power, accuracy, and feel in the pocket. He has had less help around him than all the other guys by far...none of the draft eligible QBs have had more drops by their targets than Rosen this year



Having had less help around him, he should be prepared to join the Giants.
May prefer Darnold as well,  
barens : 11/12/2017 8:13 am : link
but Rosen would be great as well. I'd take either in a heartbeat.
I hope Garapollo  
Doomster : 11/12/2017 8:47 am : link
makes the 49'ers think they don't need a qb...
RE: Equanimious St. Brown  
superspynyg : 11/12/2017 9:22 am : link
In comment 13686373 Modus Operandi said:
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You're fucking with me. That isn't a real name.


It is his real name. He is the top WR on Notre Dame and If they had a qb who could actually throw the ball then he would have better numbers.

His brothers name is Amon Ra St Brown
Picking that high  
DavidinBMNY : 11/12/2017 9:27 am : link
We can't afford to screw it up. Someone besides Reese is making that pick.
Rankins  
ajr2456 : 11/12/2017 9:33 am : link
Is a guy i hope falls to our second rounder
What happens at the end of the round is disturbing  
Reb8thVA : 11/12/2017 9:41 am : link
There is a run on OTs.
RE: Here's a quote from a guy  
Mike in NY : 11/12/2017 9:43 am : link
In comment 13686389 Big Rick in FL said:
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Who gets paid to scout draft prospects. Our very own Sy'56.



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The one that I think can be a legit star, however, is Josh Rosen/UCLA. He has the combination of repeatable throwing mechanics, arm power, accuracy, and feel in the pocket. He has had less help around him than all the other guys by far...none of the draft eligible QBs have had more drops by their targets than Rosen this year



Sy isnít infallible. Last year he had Kizer as #2 QB and I donít recall him being high on Watson, Mahomes, and Webb, all of whom have demonstrated more than Kizer. When I have seen Rosen I like the arm strength and he can evade a pass rush, but decisionmaking can get away from him. Also, not sure how much of a team leader he is. Jeff George had a great arm, but was such a dick of a person that his OL was purposely letting him get hit hard.
Overloaded on QBs with warts already showing.  
Ivan15 : 11/12/2017 9:47 am : link
I know there are teams desperate for QBs but anyone drafting a rookie to start will end up taking a step back in team progress.

Post season warts will result in only 3 or 4 being 1st round picks.
Not sure  
McNally's_Nuts : 11/12/2017 9:57 am : link
how Webb or Mahomes have showed more than Kiser. Neither of those guys have taken a meaningful snap in a game.

I couldnít name one skill position player on the Browns to be honest with you.
Hard to get excited about a new QB  
widmerseyebrow : 11/12/2017 10:25 am : link
When our front office hasn't been able to build a team around our two time Super Bowl MVP since 2011. Until that's fixed we're just grasping at straws.
Darnold  
Marty866b : 11/12/2017 12:25 pm : link
Have any of you here watched him lately? He's made some throws they very few,including the NFL qb's,can make. He's had alot of turnovers earlier in the year but lately has cleaned that up. He's big,strong,athletic,and will be able to handle the NY media. Also,he loves football and is extremely coachable. I wouldn't mind Rosen but I prefer Darnold. Some of the other guys could be system quarterbacks.Not interested in them in the top of the 1st round. We have to pick a quarterback for the future IF the organization likes the quarterback available to them,
RE: Darnold  
Danny Kanell : 11/12/2017 1:04 pm : link
In comment 13686592 Marty866b said:
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Have any of you here watched him lately? He's made some throws they very few,including the NFL qb's,can make. He's had alot of turnovers earlier in the year but lately has cleaned that up. He's big,strong,athletic,and will be able to handle the NY media. Also,he loves football and is extremely coachable. I wouldn't mind Rosen but I prefer Darnold. Some of the other guys could be system quarterbacks.Not interested in them in the top of the 1st round. We have to pick a quarterback for the future IF the organization likes the quarterback available to them,


Iím with you. I think Darnold is going to be a great pro. I suspect everyone forgets the rough season heís having once the combine is over.
Darnold Is not good.  
Giant John : 11/12/2017 1:11 pm : link
Wonder if he will make it as a backup. Go watch the ND game.
RE: Darnold Is not good.  
BigBlueShock : 11/12/2017 1:14 pm : link
In comment 13686632 Giant John said:
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Wonder if he will make it as a backup. Go watch the ND game.

It's ridiculously short sighted to look at a game or two and come away with the idea that a player "is not good". Norte Dames OL got abused last night. Are McGlinchey and Nelson now "not good"?
RE: Watch out for that monster DE out of NC State...  
jeff57 : 11/12/2017 1:36 pm : link
In comment 13686380 M.S. said:
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...Bradley Chubb!!!

He is a man among boys, and carries his 275 pounds like a trim wide receiver.

This guy is big, fast, agile, balanced, and everything else.

This dude is the total package. He looks the part and he plays the part.

A total f-ing destroyer.


Yeah, right now if they don't take a QB, I could. See them taking Chubb. And then releasing Vernon.
RE: RE: Darnold Is not good.  
Rjanyg : 11/12/2017 1:37 pm : link
In comment 13686639 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 13686632 Giant John said:


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Wonder if he will make it as a backup. Go watch the ND game.


It's ridiculously short sighted to look at a game or two and come away with the idea that a player "is not good". Norte Dames OL got abused last night. Are McGlinchey and Nelson now "not good"?


I can argue tha Nelson had a great game last night. He stoned so many pass rushers and was a beast in the run game.

Chubb from NC State would be a great alternate pick.
My  
AcidTest : 11/12/2017 2:08 pm : link
guess is that the whole Rosen debate is moot because somebody will likely take him before the Giants, especially if Darnold says in school. That basically leaves Josh Allen as the only QB in play for the Giants.

Rosen is more pro ready, but Allen has a stronger arm, and is a real threat to run. He has no run game, and is running for his life most plays.

The Giants of course might just stay with Webb.

We'll be having this debate until the draft.
Allen hurt last night  
jeff57 : 11/12/2017 2:53 pm : link
Some sort of arm injury apparently
Giant John  
Marty866b : 11/12/2017 3:55 pm : link
The entire NFL disagrees with you on Darnold. He's going top 5,at worst if he comes out. Eli Manning has had MANY worse games then Darnold had at Notre Dame. Your evaluation of Darnold playing poorly in one game is ridiculous.
Modus  
Tom in Kzoo : 11/12/2017 5:44 pm : link
Want real names? Check out the name of the year ,published yearly.

http://www.nameoftheyear.com/

You can't make this up. From my NICU work, 38 of 50 newborn babes had unintelligible names to most of us.

Flynn's first rule of nomenclature:

"The more unusual the first name would have been in 1976,the more likely they *or their parents) are to have serious pathology "
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