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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/12/2017 8:32 am
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I think a win today would quiet the noise..  
Sean : 11/12/2017 8:39 am : link
& ensure McAdoo survives the season to a likely 4-12 type finish.

A loss today and Iíd anticipate McAdoo is let go tomorrow morning with either Spags or Sullivan interim HC.
I donít think the Giants will fire anybody mid-season....  
Simms11 : 11/12/2017 9:02 am : link
As much as the pitch-fork mobs would like it, I just donít think this ownership operates that way. I will say this however, even a 4-12 season will bring about big change, but weíll have to wait until the seasonís over.

If the Giants donít win today, against arguably the worst team in the league, then the writing is on the wall.
One game,  
Doomster : 11/12/2017 9:06 am : link
is not going to make it happen......

I am at the point where, after the last 6 seasons, nothing would surprise me, as to which way this team/organization goes....

Hard to get excited about a 1-7 team beating a winless team....whoop-dee-freakin'-do.....

but according to Reese-Mac, this game could springboard our season.....yeah....right.....
ShitBowl II  
Britt in VA : 11/12/2017 9:07 am : link
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RE: ShitBowl II  
Diver_Down : 11/12/2017 9:19 am : link
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I kind of liken it to our Alamo. We win and the team unifies, it very well might propel them to more wins. They might play with enough competitiveness for the remaining games to be close enough where Ben and Jerry might be spared by John and Steve. With a competitive but losing team and the injuries, it might just be enough of an excuse for Mara to give them a reprieve. Of course, the Alamo was a bloodbath so there is also that possibility.
Counting down the seconds!  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/12/2017 9:23 am : link
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micky : 11/12/2017 9:26 am : link
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I kind of liken it to our Alamo. We win and the team unifies, it very well might propel them to more wins. They might play with enough competitiveness for the remaining games to be close enough where Ben and Jerry might be spared by John and Steve. With a competitive but losing team and the injuries, it might just be enough of an excuse for Mara to give them a reprieve. Of course, the Alamo was a bloodbath so there is also that possibility.



this...in the end still believe there will be no changes ..and staying the course
giants can play bad today or if not worse than they have  
micky : 11/12/2017 9:28 am : link
and still win this game easily. Miners are really pathetic
RE: giants can play bad today or if not worse than they have  
micky : 11/12/2017 9:29 am : link
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and still win this game easily. Miners are really pathetic


Niners
Iím sick of Reese  
Massgman : 11/12/2017 9:39 am : link
Iím sick of Mac, Iím sick of Quinn. Iím sick of all this same bullshit year after year with the offensive line. I want them to clean house. So go Frisco if thatís what it takes......end of story
Niners  
Sammo85 : 11/12/2017 9:49 am : link
Truly are the worst team in football. They have tons of injuries, major talent
and depth deficiencies and poor QB play.

If we canít win this game, itís 1-15.

I think they win significantly today, giving some quiet to the noise, only to go out and get curb stomped the next five weeks straight.
RE: giants can play bad today or if not worse than they have  
Mike in NY : 11/12/2017 9:50 am : link
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and still win this game easily. Miners are really pathetic


What does UTEP have to do with this (outside of their OL Hernandez)? :)

In all seriousness I am rooting for a W as I am every week, but I am not going to get worked up if we donít win (unless we find an incredibly stupid way to lose)
RE: RE: giants can play bad today or if not worse than they have  
micky : 11/12/2017 9:55 am : link
In comment 13686471 Mike in NY said:
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and still win this game easily. Miners are really pathetic



What does UTEP have to do with this (outside of their OL Hernandez)? :)

In all seriousness I am rooting for a W as I am every week, but I am not going to get worked up if we donít win (unless we find an incredibly stupid way to lose)


lol..it feels like a college game
RE: RE: ShitBowl II  
Sammo85 : 11/12/2017 10:12 am : link
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I kind of liken it to our Alamo. We win and the team unifies, it very well might propel them to more wins. They might play with enough competitiveness for the remaining games to be close enough where Ben and Jerry might be spared by John and Steve. With a competitive but losing team and the injuries, it might just be enough of an excuse for Mara to give them a reprieve. Of course, the Alamo was a bloodbath so there is also that possibility.


No way. Their schedule after today is built to ensure more losses and potentially embarrassing ones. Two games against the Skins, games against the Cowboys, Eagles, Raiders, Chiefs. The only winnable game after today is against the Cards but theyíll play a lot tougher than the Niners and most likely this team will be beaten to a pulp mentally, physically by then.
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Diver_Down : 11/12/2017 10:19 am : link
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I kind of liken it to our Alamo. We win and the team unifies, it very well might propel them to more wins. They might play with enough competitiveness for the remaining games to be close enough where Ben and Jerry might be spared by John and Steve. With a competitive but losing team and the injuries, it might just be enough of an excuse for Mara to give them a reprieve. Of course, the Alamo was a bloodbath so there is also that possibility.



No way. Their schedule after today is built to ensure more losses and potentially embarrassing ones. Two games against the Skins, games against the Cowboys, Eagles, Raiders, Chiefs. The only winnable game after today is against the Cards but theyíll play a lot tougher than the Niners and most likely this team will be beaten to a pulp mentally, physically by then.


It's not what I want to happen. Everyone knows that want Reese out of here and Ben should never have been. A win against a terrible team might unify the team enough to play competitive over the course of the remaining schedule. Not saying they will win, but if they can keep the games close, it might be all Mara needs to justify in keeping the status quo. It would be the worst case scenario for me.
Hard to envision  
joeinpa : 11/12/2017 10:54 am : link
Any scenerio at this position nt that doesn t result in massive change at season s end.

Today s game Giants are in a position where a win means nothing and a loss speaks volumes.
I know it's frowned upon here....  
rebel yell : 11/12/2017 10:57 am : link
but I'll take a loss. This team needs ALL the draft position it can get. We're an absolute mess.
RE: Hard to envision  
Jim in Tampa : 11/12/2017 11:05 am : link
In comment 13686513 joeinpa said:
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Any scenerio at this position nt that doesn t result in massive change at season s end.

Today s game Giants are in a position where a win means nothing and a loss speaks volumes.


Actually there is a scenario in which BM stays.

If the Giants win some games and finish with (let's say) 5 wins and BM shows that he hasn't lost the team or the fans, then I think Mara will keep him.

Remember, BM did take the team to the playoffs in his first year and the Giants have never pulled the plug on a second year coach who has had some success.

I'm not saying that this is the most likely scenario, but I am saying that it's entirely possible.
Giants,  
oldog : 11/12/2017 11:17 am : link
should be good in this one. Looking forward to seeing Shepard, Engram, Tomlinson, and the revival of Apple and Collins. Also the return of the Jackrabbit could be fun. The players must be aching to put one together, hope the cushion of the 49ers lets them start to rehab.
Zero interest  
well...bye TC : 11/12/2017 11:29 am : link
Ill catch the score tonight at some point.
TC  
joeinpa : 11/12/2017 11:33 am : link
You have zero interest yet come to the game board 5 hours before k off to comment.

Do you not see the irony in that
have a nice day  
well...bye TC : 11/12/2017 11:42 am : link
joe.
Should be just like last year...  
trueblueinpw : 11/12/2017 11:44 am : link
All the folks shouting about how ďMcAdoo was 11-6Ē last year, and thereís a suddenly quite lot of you, should remember fondly this sort of game from last year. A pathetic QB on an underwhelming bottom division team is just what the doctor ordered for our horrible McAdoof and Spaz led troupe of traveling football clowns. Someone please remind me the last time our Gíaints beat a good team?

Anyway, I know one Giant who will play his fucking heart out today just like heís always done. Hopefully a win will at least give him the next week off from all the ass monkeys around here that want to run out of town the only proven winner in this whole shit show organization.
RE: ShitBowl II  
BigBlueShock : 11/12/2017 11:53 am : link
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Are you saying that the FOX number 1 team of Troy and Buck won't be doing this huge game?
TC  
joeinpa : 11/12/2017 11:59 am : link
You to.

A lose today and i'm confident we are locked in the top 3  
est1986 : 11/12/2017 12:06 pm : link
3-13 finish at best if we lose today. Win and we might push 5 or 6 wins to finish, who knows with this team..
The Giants feel like a 3-13 team,  
Shepherdsam : 11/12/2017 12:13 pm : link
Iím declaring this a must win.
This is a must lose game  
eclipz928 : 11/12/2017 12:23 pm : link
Gotta secure that top 3 draft pick and clear out the coaching staff. There's no benefit to beating the 49ers.
Can't root fora loss. Ever.  
Giants_ROK : 11/12/2017 12:29 pm : link
Hoping fora tie.

That would really bring the shit.
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Giants_ROK : 11/12/2017 12:30 pm : link
*for a*
RE: The Giants feel like a 3-13 team,  
micky : 11/12/2017 12:39 pm : link
In comment 13686581 Shepherdsam said:
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Iím declaring this a must win.


nah...they can afford to lose til week 17..that!, then is a must win!
RE: RE: ShitBowl II  
Britt in VA : 11/12/2017 12:50 pm : link
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Are you saying that the FOX number 1 team of Troy and Buck won't be doing this huge game?


We're getting Mike Florio and Gil Brandt on FSN1
I think Giants were  
joeinpa : 11/12/2017 12:51 pm : link
So embarrassed last week that it got their attention. Jobs are on the line.

Don t think they lose today. If they do, it speaks volumes.
Whose job  
XBRONX : 11/12/2017 1:02 pm : link
is on the line?
RE: I think a win today would quiet the noise..  
KeoweeFan : 11/12/2017 1:16 pm : link
In comment 13686409 Sean said:
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& ensure McAdoo survives the season to a likely 4-12 type finish.

A loss today and Iíd anticipate McAdoo is let go tomorrow morning with either Spags or Sullivan interim HC.

Sully would make sense in that it would be least disruptive to the D. However, if Spags turns out to be part of the problem (that mgt should be able to detect) then he should be gone also.
Sullivan would be a clear interim HC, leaving the field wide open for an early choice for 2018.
RE: Zero interest  
BigBlueShock : 11/12/2017 1:21 pm : link
In comment 13686537 well...bye TC said:
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Ill catch the score tonight at some point.

You'd make a perfect Cowboys fan. Hang around and act all diehard when things are going well and then jump ship when things suck. Good riddance
If we lose today  
Bluesbreaker : 11/12/2017 1:23 pm : link
its a one win season ...
I am guessing they will do enough to eek out a win .
Maybe we beat the Cards and that it !
Looking for a W today  
Rjanyg : 11/12/2017 1:27 pm : link
I know, draft position and all that. I have a son that is losing his mind with this season and a win will get him troughs the next week at college. His GPA might go up if the Giants can pull out the win.

We will be picking top 5 either way.
RE: RE: Zero interest  
adamg : 11/12/2017 1:28 pm : link
In comment 13686649 BigBlueShock said:
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Ill catch the score tonight at some point.


You'd make a perfect Cowboys fan. Hang around and act all diehard when things are going well and then jump ship when things suck. Good riddance


The best part about the losing is it separates the bandwagon from the fandom. There's a silver lining at least.
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BigBlueShock : 11/12/2017 1:52 pm : link
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Are you saying that the FOX number 1 team of Troy and Buck won't be doing this huge game?



We're getting Mike Florio and Gil Brandt on FSN1

Could be worse. They could have banished us to CBS and let Lofton make our ears bleed again.
Think  
AcidTest : 11/12/2017 2:12 pm : link
the 49ers win.
I kind of would prefer that the 49ers win  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 11/12/2017 2:21 pm : link
so that the Giants (1) improve draft position and (2) clean house. I don't think that Giants losing is very likely.

It will be painful to watch the press conference afterwards if they win a shitty game and the head coach is all cheese-eating grins. 40 quotes about being a poised and heavy-handed team... arrgggh.
I couldn't hear it, but did Fox air a...  
Crispino : 11/12/2017 2:23 pm : link
piece oclong Mac and the Giants on their pre game show? Because if they did, Mara should be on the phone right now with the league and Fox. Fuck that shit. I was in a restaurant so I couldn't hear it, but it looked like a comedy skit at the expense of our franchise and the coach. And that's USR beyond the pale.
RE: RE: Zero interest  
well...bye TC : 11/12/2017 3:07 pm : link
In comment 13686649 BigBlueShock said:
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Ill catch the score tonight at some point.


You'd make a perfect Cowboys fan. Hang around and act all diehard when things are going well and then jump ship when things suck. Good riddance

Kid I had season tix for 20 yrs and was at SB in 86 and 90. Went to camp in Pleasantville and Madison. Have a real GIANTS helmet on my bureau. Was friends with George Young. Im disgusted with this team and Im having dinner with my daughter at 5 - is that ok with you?
it was laughing stock material  
blueberry : 11/12/2017 3:24 pm : link
absolutely making fun of McAdoo Ummm... response when asked about last week's halftime speech -totally mocking the coach & team
(however oclong Mac?? that's USR ??? sorry don't get those abbreviations)
it's not on TV out here and I have conflicting plans  
Nitro : 11/12/2017 3:39 pm : link
gonna miss this one, first time in forever.
USR was an autocorrect.  
Crispino : 11/12/2017 3:54 pm : link
Doesn't mean anything.
I can't remember the last time I was this  
Rick5 : 11/12/2017 3:56 pm : link
uninterested in watching them play. Maybe 2003? I think I will have it on in the background while I do something else.
Today is T H E day  
I Love Clams Casino : 11/12/2017 3:57 pm : link
The day.....that the lack of effort to enabling the firing of the hated McAdoo, will be evident beyond the shadow of a doubt. The players want him gone..

This does not mean the MAC will be fired on Monday, but this will be the game that seals the deal, regardless of what happens after this game
From what I've been reading and what I just saw,  
Dave in Buffalo : 11/12/2017 5:51 pm : link
it sure looks like some guys are purposely tanking it. Jenkins did nothing more than make a show of making an effort.
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