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So what's Tom Coughlin saying now....

GmeninPSL : 11/12/2017 7:32 pm
hey Ben, that 11-5 season was a mirage!!
"You're five minutes late."  
Sarcastic Sam : 11/12/2017 7:33 pm : link
"Dinner is supposed to start at 7:30, which is 7:25."
Hey Jerry, Fuck you.  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 11/12/2017 7:33 pm : link
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It wasn't like Coughlin  
EddieNYG : 11/12/2017 7:33 pm : link
Was coaching great when he "resigned".
He probably doesn't even give the Giants a second thought.  
Diver_Down : 11/12/2017 7:34 pm : link
He's tied for first in their division.
How you like me now?  
Reb8thVA : 11/12/2017 7:35 pm : link
Boo Yah!
He's probably celebrating with Judy  
Diver_Down : 11/12/2017 7:35 pm : link
on Shad's yacht.
If anyone thinks Coughlin would say anything..  
EricJ : 11/12/2017 7:35 pm : link
then you dont know Coughlin. The guy has class
Kindly stop with the Coughlin  
section125 : 11/12/2017 7:35 pm : link
talk. He was bad his last two years and maybe even before. Said it before, when the front office forces you to get rid of two OCs and three DCs, you were on borrowed time...
RE: Hey Jerry, Fuck you.  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 11/12/2017 7:36 pm : link
In comment 13688199 Bold Ruler said:
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This is probably close, although how ya like me now is good.
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yankees78 : 11/12/2017 7:36 pm : link


Miss ya cranky pants
Coughlin was pissed when he was let go...pissed he was given  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 11/12/2017 7:36 pm : link
such shitty players for years.
RE: It wasn't like Coughlin  
HomerJones45 : 11/12/2017 7:37 pm : link
In comment 13688201 EddieNYG said:
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Was coaching great when he "resigned".
LOL. With the lead weights he was saddled with, he was the only thing keeping this ship afloat. The evidence is overwhelming.
ď why didnít i trade for a qb?Ē  
TommytheElephant : 11/12/2017 7:38 pm : link
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RE: He probably doesn't even give the Giants a second thought.  
GiantTerp79 : 11/12/2017 7:38 pm : link
In comment 13688204 Diver_Down said:
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He's tied for first in their division.


Are you crazy?
He definitely gives it a second thought and that thought is a huge "fuck you" smile on his face. Mara should have fired Reese and moved Coughlin upstairs. He couldn't coach anymore but that man can assess and manage talent better than most, specifically better than every piece of shit collecting a pay check at the Giants front office right now.
RE: Coughlin was pissed when he was let go...pissed he was given  
Sarcastic Sam : 11/12/2017 7:38 pm : link
In comment 13688226 Bold Ruler said:
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such shitty players for years.


Hell, the players sitting in the conference left when it was Jerry's turn to talk. Shows what the even the players that picked were picked by JR think of our general manager.
RE: Kindly stop with the Coughlin  
rocco8112 : 11/12/2017 7:39 pm : link
In comment 13688216 section125 said:
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talk. He was bad his last two years and maybe even before. Said it before, when the front office forces you to get rid of two OCs and three DCs, you were on borrowed time...


Yup, team had losing records. Although it looked like the team was improving in 2015 but had no defense to speak of. Looking back now, you don't see that maybe he was not the whole problem. Two years removed from his firing the team has all the same chronic roster issues and has become the worst team in the NFL. The Giants are a league wide joke. Maybe he was not the problem after all.
RE: RE: It wasn't like Coughlin  
Eman11 : 11/12/2017 7:42 pm : link
In comment 13688236 HomerJones45 said:
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Was coaching great when he "resigned".

LOL. With the lead weights he was saddled with, he was the only thing keeping this ship afloat. The evidence is overwhelming.


Totally agree Homer,

Look no further than how the team played when they started 0-6. A complete 180 than how this team is playing.
RE: RE: It wasn't like Coughlin  
SomeFan : 11/12/2017 7:46 pm : link
In comment 13688236 HomerJones45 said:
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Was coaching great when he "resigned".

LOL. With the lead weights he was saddled with, he was the only thing keeping this ship afloat. The evidence is overwhelming.


Agree.
On an answering machine: "Hey John!  
old man : 11/12/2017 7:47 pm : link
How are you and Jerry doing?
Haven't followed the Giants much since the Jaguars are now IN PLAYOFF CONTENTION I've had to work together lately with our coach and VERY COOPERATIVE OWNER AND GM to FINISH the GOOD WORK we started JUST last year.

If you don't get a chance to call back soon'HAPPY THANKSGIVING'.
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Mdgiantsfan : 11/12/2017 7:52 pm : link
this is just childish. Was he silent last year when they made the playoffs and now all of audden boisterous since the team is struggling? Iíd hope heíd be focused on how to overtake the Titans.
RE: RE: He probably doesn't even give the Giants a second thought.  
Diver_Down : 11/12/2017 7:52 pm : link
In comment 13688241 GiantTerp79 said:
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He's tied for first in their division.



Are you crazy?
He definitely gives it a second thought and that thought is a huge "fuck you" smile on his face. Mara should have fired Reese and moved Coughlin upstairs. He couldn't coach anymore but that man can assess and manage talent better than most, specifically better than every piece of shit collecting a pay check at the Giants front office right now.


No disagreement with me regarding what should have happened. But if you think Tom is thinking about the Giants after his team won their first overtime game since 2009, you haven't been paying attention to him all the years of his tenure. He's enjoyed his team winning and is already on to the next opponent. A consummate pro.
I think Tom is saying  
Vanzetti : 11/12/2017 7:57 pm : link
"This is what happens when you have an owner who lacks a Y chromosome."
The Coughlin refrain  
joeinpa : 11/12/2017 7:59 pm : link
gets old. He was past his prime, it was time to go. MacAdoo looks like a mistake, but Coughlin wasn't the answer either.
Let's break down the logic here  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 11/12/2017 8:06 pm : link
Four years missing the playoffs and three losing seasons in a row? Somebody else's fault. Never should have let him go.

Going 11-5 and making the playoffs as a rookie coach? A mirage? A fluke.

A shit-tastic season riddled with injuries, including the loss of our only superstar? Don't make excuses! Fire him now!
RE: Let's break down the logic here  
bradshaw44 : 11/12/2017 8:11 pm : link
In comment 13688467 Gary from The East End said:
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Four years missing the playoffs and three losing seasons in a row? Somebody else's fault. Never should have let him go.

Going 11-5 and making the playoffs as a rookie coach? A mirage? A fluke.

A shit-tastic season riddled with injuries, including the loss of our only superstar? Don't make excuses! Fire him now!


Iím not down with giving TC excuses. But are you excusing BMs season due to injuries? Maybe Iím misreading so Iím asking seriously.
RE: Let's break down the logic here  
bradshaw44 : 11/12/2017 8:11 pm : link
In comment 13688467 Gary from The East End said:
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Four years missing the playoffs and three losing seasons in a row? Somebody else's fault. Never should have let him go.

Going 11-5 and making the playoffs as a rookie coach? A mirage? A fluke.

A shit-tastic season riddled with injuries, including the loss of our only superstar? Don't make excuses! Fire him now!


Iím not down with giving TC excuses. But are you excusing BMs season due to injuries? Maybe Iím misreading so Iím asking seriously.
RE: It wasn't like Coughlin  
montanagiant : 11/12/2017 8:13 pm : link
In comment 13688201 EddieNYG said:
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Was coaching great when he "resigned".

His last season with much less talent would beat this team
"Imagine if I got a $200 million defense to coach last year"  
dpinzow : 11/12/2017 8:15 pm : link
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RE: Let's break down the logic here  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/12/2017 8:22 pm : link
In comment 13688467 Gary from The East End said:
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Four years missing the playoffs and three losing seasons in a row? Somebody else's fault. Never should have let him go.

Going 11-5 and making the playoffs as a rookie coach? A mirage? A fluke.

A shit-tastic season riddled with injuries, including the loss of our only superstar? Don't make excuses! Fire him now!


Wait.. you wanna give McAdoo the benefit of the doubt? Lol
RE: The Coughlin refrain  
HomerJones45 : 11/12/2017 8:24 pm : link
In comment 13688416 joeinpa said:
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gets old. He was past his prime, it was time to go. MacAdoo looks like a mistake, but Coughlin wasn't the answer either.
Yeah, obviously. The Giants have improved immensely with the entire management team minus the Ancient One and the Jags are clearly suffering from his senility.
RE: Let's break down the logic here  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 11/12/2017 8:30 pm : link
In comment 13688467 Gary from The East End said:
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Four years missing the playoffs and three losing seasons in a row? Somebody else's fault. Never should have let him go.

Going 11-5 and making the playoffs as a rookie coach? A mirage? A fluke.

A shit-tastic season riddled with injuries, including the loss of our only superstar? Don't make excuses! Fire him now!


One good season where we got smoked in the playoffs after spending $200 M because your drafting sucks so bad, all comes down to Reese as the common denominator. Shitty players, and the choice to hire Ben.
Coughlin needed to go  
Mike Graves : 11/12/2017 8:31 pm : link
And Marrone was the coach to get and we let him leave the building after his interview.
RE: Let's break down the logic here  
HomerJones45 : 11/12/2017 8:36 pm : link
In comment 13688467 Gary from The East End said:
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Four years missing the playoffs and three losing seasons in a row? Somebody else's fault. Never should have let him go.

Going 11-5 and making the playoffs as a rookie coach? A mirage? A fluke.

A shit-tastic season riddled with injuries, including the loss of our only superstar? Don't make excuses! Fire him now!
Actually, here is the logic:
Team A let's all the management stay and promotes one of their number and let's exactly one guy go. The wheels have completely come off of Team A- won 1 of their last 10 games, just lost to a team that had not won a game all year and appear to have a defensive player revolt on their hands.

Team B, league laughing stock, hires that one guy and places him in charge of all football operations. Team B is tied for first place and has now won more games this season than it had in any of the last 7 seasons.

It would certainly appear that this one guy was not the problem and quite possibly was keeping a leaky boat afloat while saddled with a collection of buffoons. In fact, I cannot think of a situation like this in the last 50 years where it was so apparent that one guy made that much of a difference. Perhaps someone else can.
RE: RE: Let's break down the logic here  
rocco8112 : 11/12/2017 8:41 pm : link
In comment 13688604 HomerJones45 said:
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In comment 13688467 Gary from The East End said:


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Four years missing the playoffs and three losing seasons in a row? Somebody else's fault. Never should have let him go.

Going 11-5 and making the playoffs as a rookie coach? A mirage? A fluke.

A shit-tastic season riddled with injuries, including the loss of our only superstar? Don't make excuses! Fire him now!

Actually, here is the logic:
Team A let's all the management stay and promotes one of their number and let's exactly one guy go. The wheels have completely come off of Team A- won 1 of their last 10 games, just lost to a team that had not won a game all year and appear to have a defensive player revolt on their hands.

Team B, league laughing stock, hires that one guy and places him in charge of all football operations. Team B is tied for first place and has now won more games this season than it had in any of the last 7 seasons.

It would certainly appear that this one guy was not the problem and quite possibly was keeping a leaky boat afloat while saddled with a collection of buffoons. In fact, I cannot think of a situation like this in the last 50 years where it was so apparent that one guy made that much of a difference. Perhaps someone else can.


I have to be honest,I see it the same way. The explanation is rarely that simple, but it is crystal clear Coughlin was not the main problem with this team.

From the actions taken after 2015, I draw the conclusion this is what ownership thought.
RE: RE: RE: He probably doesn't even give the Giants a second thought.  
GiantTerp79 : 11/12/2017 8:44 pm : link
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He's tied for first in their division.



Are you crazy?
He definitely gives it a second thought and that thought is a huge "fuck you" smile on his face. Mara should have fired Reese and moved Coughlin upstairs. He couldn't coach anymore but that man can assess and manage talent better than most, specifically better than every piece of shit collecting a pay check at the Giants front office right now.



No disagreement with me regarding what should have happened. But if you think Tom is thinking about the Giants after his team won their first overtime game since 2009, you haven't been paying attention to him all the years of his tenure. He's enjoyed his team winning and is already on to the next opponent. A consummate pro.


A consumate pro keeps his feelings about things like his unceremonious resignation to himself. He is a hardcore competitor and I can guarantee when he's by himself looking at what he's done in Jacksonville versus what he left behind in New York he smiles a little bit bigger.
Honestly who cares what Coughlin is saying now??  
Toastt34 : 11/13/2017 12:45 am : link
Let it go already. His time was up here.
RE: Honestly who cares what Coughlin is saying now??  
Thunderstruck27 : 11/13/2017 3:07 am : link
In comment 13689049 Toastt34 said:
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Let it go already. His time was up here.


So is Reese's, McAdoo's, and Eli's...but here we are talking about that everyday.
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