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So, where do the Giants go from here?

Sean : 11/13/2017 7:55 am
I think we all agree, yesterday was rock bottom for a proud franchise. Seeing John Mara pacing in his suite told us everything about the current state of the franchise. Here are the big questions-

1. QB- Id like to see Eli play out his contract with whoever we draft sit behind him in 2018.

2. OBJ- this is unpopular, but I wouldnt sign him long term. He is a tremendous talent, but not worth the headache. He has been clearly treated differently with a different set of rules than everyone else. So much drama & it leaves teammates answering questions about his behavior. We need to get back to winning in the trenches.

3. GM/HC- Ive seen a lot of articles vouching for Piolo/McDaniels which Id like. But, I can see John Mara playing it safe with someone like Mike Smith.

4. Id expect 70-75 percent turnover on this roster.
Back to the drawing board  
jeff57 : 11/13/2017 7:57 am : link
With a new GM and Coach.
Weve hit rock bottom  
Ron Johnson : 11/13/2017 8:00 am : link
With 7 more games to keep digging
70-75% roster turnover?  
figgy2989 : 11/13/2017 8:01 am : link
I don't know about that. Roughly 40 players gone?
75% roster turnover?  
B in ALB : 11/13/2017 8:04 am : link
Is this Fantasy Land?
RE: Weve hit rock bottom  
jeff57 : 11/13/2017 8:06 am : link
In comment 13689226 Ron Johnson said:
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With 7 more games to keep digging


First order of business is to find competent replacements  
The_Boss : 11/13/2017 8:06 am : link
For McAdoo and Reese.
Trust them to, hopefully, make the right calls on Eli, the OL, our top 3 pick, whether to be hard on Beckham after his bullshit, roster turnover/building.

Its going to be impossible to turn over 75% of the roster. The normal amount in a typical offseason is roughly 25-30%. Its going to take multiple offseasons to dig ourselves out of this mostly Jerry Reese dug ditch.
Other then Cleveland who is perpetually garbage until proven otherwise  
LatHarv83 : 11/13/2017 8:10 am : link
No one is ever that far off from being decent in the nfl no matter how desperate the situation looks. 5 of the 6 teams in the nfc if the playoffs ended today didnt make the playoffs last year. Pick the right coach, hopefully grab a qb that can be a piece to build around for the next decade and you have the building blocks for a future in place.
.........  
riceneggs : 11/13/2017 8:12 am : link
1. if Alex Smith is available, sign him and release Eli
2. draft Saquon Barkley
3. release bad vibes Brandon Marshall
4. find a LT
5. replace JPP and/or Vernon

Our defense doesn't lack talent. I just think that after carrying the team last year, they weren't up for doing that again this year.

Need To Look At The Tape...  
Rong5611 : 11/13/2017 8:13 am : link
LOL
......  
riceneggs : 11/13/2017 8:13 am : link
and yeah, find a coach that calls more than 5 plays
Do we have any proof of #2?  
FStubbs : 11/13/2017 8:13 am : link
I mean, I know he's flashier than a lot of Giants fans would like, but I don't know if there's any proof he's any worse than anyone else on this team.
RE: .........  
FStubbs : 11/13/2017 8:15 am : link
In comment 13689248 riceneggs said:
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1. if Alex Smith is available, sign him and release Eli
2. draft Saquon Barkley
3. release bad vibes Brandon Marshall
4. find a LT
5. replace JPP and/or Vernon

Our defense doesn't lack talent. I just think that after carrying the team last year, they weren't up for doing that again this year.


Why? If you're going to replace Eli you do it with someone young. May as well keep Eli if your other option is Alex Smith.
With you on 1 and 2.  
AnnapolisMike : 11/13/2017 8:16 am : link
None of the coaching names spark any interest and 2/3's of this team will be back. The Giants are an OL, health and a good coach away from being back in the mix.

This is a team that is in full revolt right now. Careful throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Release Eli  
B in ALB : 11/13/2017 8:19 am : link
And sign Alex Smith?

You're just going to eat Eli's contract?

And where are you finding a new LT exactly?

I swear, there are some really dumb people on bbi lately. Holy shit.
And you're going to eat JPP and Vernon's  
B in ALB : 11/13/2017 8:20 am : link
contracts too?

What the fuck kind of plan is that?
OBJ is basically the only reason this team hasnt finished 1-15  
Jimmy Googs : 11/13/2017 8:23 am : link
For the last several years...
Mike Smith?? The guy that got run out of Atlanta?  
Jimmy Googs : 11/13/2017 8:25 am : link
What's Plan B...
.....  
CoughlinHandsonHips : 11/13/2017 8:25 am : link
I know quick turnarounds are possible, but the change this team needs to bigger than most.

Jenkins and Apple are mailing it in, and it will be clear on tape. I think they should be traded. They are talented, and their replacements will more than likely be less so, but a message has to be sent.

Trading JPP cost's the GMEN 5 million in additional space. I think that needs to happen too. I doubt you get much for him at his contract

I don't bring back one single FA.

I'd hope they bring in a new GM with a different philosphy on how to build a team. A little less emphasis on corner/WR with a little more on Oline/LB
RE: RE: .........  
riceneggs : 11/13/2017 8:26 am : link
In comment 13689258 FStubbs said:
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In comment 13689248 riceneggs said:


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1. if Alex Smith is available, sign him and release Eli
2. draft Saquon Barkley
3. release bad vibes Brandon Marshall
4. find a LT
5. replace JPP and/or Vernon

Our defense doesn't lack talent. I just think that after carrying the team last year, they weren't up for doing that again this year.




Why? If you're going to replace Eli you do it with someone young. May as well keep Eli if your other option is Alex Smith.


Alex Smith is wayyyyyyy better than Eli.
if thats an option, I'd do it.
With Alex, we'd get way less interceptions and fumbles, more plays with his legs, we'd actually run a quarterback sneak on 3rd/4th and inches
RE: Release Eli  
riceneggs : 11/13/2017 8:27 am : link
In comment 13689267 B in ALB said:
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And sign Alex Smith?

You're just going to eat Eli's contract?

And where are you finding a new LT exactly?

I swear, there are some really dumb people on bbi lately. Holy shit.


dude, relax, this shit is all hypothetical. OP asked "where do we go from here". so answering the question "ideally"

RE: RE: Release Eli  
B in ALB : 11/13/2017 8:28 am : link
In comment 13689294 riceneggs said:
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In comment 13689267 B in ALB said:


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And sign Alex Smith?

You're just going to eat Eli's contract?

And where are you finding a new LT exactly?

I swear, there are some really dumb people on bbi lately. Holy shit.



dude, relax, this shit is all hypothetical. OP asked "where do we go from here". so answering the question "ideally"


Fair enough. But try doing it without smoking crack first.
RE: .....  
riceneggs : 11/13/2017 8:30 am : link
In comment 13689287 CoughlinHandsonHips said:
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Jenkins and Apple are mailing it in, and it will be clear on tape. I think they should be traded. They are talented, and their replacements will more than likely be less so, but a message has to be sent.


in the NFL, Talented Player > Less Talented/Motivated

RE: RE: RE: Release Eli  
riceneggs : 11/13/2017 8:31 am : link
In comment 13689297 B in ALB said:
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In comment 13689294 riceneggs said:


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In comment 13689267 B in ALB said:


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And sign Alex Smith?

You're just going to eat Eli's contract?

And where are you finding a new LT exactly?

I swear, there are some really dumb people on bbi lately. Holy shit.



dude, relax, this shit is all hypothetical. OP asked "where do we go from here". so answering the question "ideally"

Fair enough. But try doing it without smoking crack first.


you have female emotions
Nah  
B in ALB : 11/13/2017 8:31 am : link
Just don't enjoy reading utter nonsense.
where? 1-9 next Sunday.  
Victor in CT : 11/13/2017 8:51 am : link
they won't win another game. The only drama left is to see on Jan 2 if they finally can Reese.
Mara  
Sammo85 : 11/13/2017 8:54 am : link
needs to let a new GM pick the next head coach rather than force Mike Smith on this roster and a GM.

Mara chose McAdoo and thats blown up in his face.
How do you replace 70%  
Doomster : 11/13/2017 9:07 am : link
of a roster when you don't even have 22 starters?

This team has not had a viable plan for 7 seasons.....

There has to be a plan and there has to be the right people to carry it out....

Depending on the plan, and which direction we go, it can actually get worse before it gets better, though that is hard to believe if we go 1-15....growing pains take time.....we have wasted 6 seasons already, and we are still at square one....The Mara's and us fans, are going to have to be very lucky, if we can find someone who can get us out of the hole we have dug for ourselves, these last 7 post seasons.....
Im wondering if Jim Schwartz  
Simms11 : 11/13/2017 9:52 am : link
would get another opportunity here? It would give us an experienced defensive minded HC that knows how to run a defense.
I don't agree. Rock bottom is still ahead  
Red Dog : 11/13/2017 12:16 pm : link
at a 1-15 record, multiple terrible whippings by teams yet to happen, and a record bad year for defensive yard and points given up.

Where do they go from here? Simple. Fire Reese, Ross, McAdoo and the rest of the coaches and hire some new people. It isn't going to get any better with any of these clowns still in place.

What's hard is finding the right people to replace them with.
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