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Keith : 11/13/2017 9:11 am
In case you missed it, Cleveland played Dallas the other night and Lebron made comments about how Smith should be a Knick. Odd that he singled out the Knicks and not the other 7 teams that passed on him, but he clearly wanted to make a point. Several Knicks responded in defense of our rookie:

Kanter:

“This is my rookie. This is my team. This is my organization. I cannot just let him disrespect him like that,” Enes Kanter said Sunday afternoon after practice in Westchester. “I think Frank’s doing an unbelievable job. Every day, he’s just working really hard to become a really good one. I just think it’s going to be a process. He’s doing an unbelievable job on the court, off the court, taking care of his body.”

“But I don’t care who (it is), I just cannot let anyone disrespect my family like that,” Kanter continued. “Because when I play for an organization, I see my teammates and that organization like a family. And I don’t care. It doesn’t matter if it’s LeBron or whoever it is, I cannot just let him disrespect him like that because the coaches, the GMs, the president, this organization knows what they’re doing. So that’s why I was kind of pissed that he said that, because, I mean, come on, man. That’s a rookie. You cannot just say anything like that about him.”


Porzingis:
“I don’t know why he made those comments,” said Porzingis, who is third in the NBA in scoring at 30.4 points per game. “But all I can say is we love Frank. We’re happy with him. He’s doing a great job. He’s playing great and he’s doing what he’s supposed to. I would not change Frank for anybody. Simple.”

Ntilikina's response:
“In life, people can think whatever they want,” Ntilikina said. “However, it’s not gonna affect us and me. So whatever is said, whatever people think, me and the team are just being focused on what we're doing every day to improve and just to make us better.” “I don’t have to prove them, I have to prove to myself,” he said. “I have to prove to the team. It's all about me and it's all about the team. I don't care what people say.”


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bceagle05 : 11/13/2017 11:12 am : link
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Ian Begley @IanBegley

LeBron James, asked if his Dennis Smith Jr. comments were a shot at Phil Jackson: “Oh yeah it’s definitely a shot at him.” Said he didn’t mean it as a shot at Frank Ntilikina.
Salary Cap  
TyreeHelmet : 11/13/2017 11:13 am : link
The Knicks will have 8.5 million in cap dedicated to Kuz and Rob Baker. 1 guy was outright cut and the other is in the G League and cannot be trusted as even a backup PG. Ronnie Baker should be sending weekly gift baskets to Phil Jackson.

The Knicks and Jackson were so reckless with the cap. I really hope Perry manages the cap much better.

Really pumped for tonights game.
RE: Salary Cap  
TyreeHelmet : 11/13/2017 11:13 am : link
In comment 13689851 TyreeHelmet said:
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The Knicks will have 8.5 million in cap dedicated to Kuz and Rob Baker. 1 guy was outright cut and the other is in the G League and cannot be trusted as even a backup PG. Ronnie Baker should be sending weekly gift baskets to Phil Jackson.

The Knicks and Jackson were so reckless with the cap. I really hope Perry manages the cap much better.

Really pumped for tonights game.


And that includes next years cap too.
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nygiants16 : 11/13/2017 11:14 am : link
In comment 13689850 bceagle05 said:
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Ian Begley @IanBegley

LeBron James, asked if his Dennis Smith Jr. comments were a shot at Phil Jackson: “Oh yeah it’s definitely a shot at him.” Said he didn’t mean it as a shot at Frank Ntilikina.



lebron is onr bitter little bitch...

for the first time im his career he is going to feel the hate of knicks fans in the garden, no more cheering for him in the mecca..
It wasn't Phil Jackson,  
Keith : 11/13/2017 11:14 am : link
it was Mills that signed him.
Haha lebron's butt buddy  
nygiants16 : 11/13/2017 11:26 am : link
fat windbag says that executives agree with lwbron about frank and smith, of course they do
Its low hanging fruit to get on the Knicks.  
Keith : 11/13/2017 11:30 am : link
16, where are you seeing that?
RE: Haha lebron's butt buddy  
Enzo : 11/13/2017 11:31 am : link
In comment 13689885 nygiants16 said:
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fat windbag says that executives agree with lwbron about frank and smith, of course they do

of course Windhorst is too stupid to realize that whether or not LeBron is right is not the issue. DSJ could make 10 all star teams, it doesn't make his remarks any less inappropriate.
RE: Its low hanging fruit to get on the Knicks.  
nygiants16 : 11/13/2017 11:33 am : link
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16, where are you seeing that?


he just tweeted it
RE: forget assists  
Greg from LI : 11/13/2017 11:33 am : link
In comment 13689815 nygiants16 said:
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he is shooting 40 percent and is averaging almost 4 turnovers a game and terrible defense...


Why would you bring up shooting? Frenchy is shooting 34%.
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Greg from LI : 11/13/2017 11:34 am : link
In comment 13689853 nygiants16 said:
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for the first time im his career he is going to feel the hate of knicks fans in the garden, no more cheering for him in the mecca..


It has always made me sick to see him getting cheered at MSG anyway, like the way the crowd was cheering for Jordan when he dropped 55 on the Knicks after coming out of retirement.
I think we all know  
Keith : 11/13/2017 11:37 am : link
that the people that fill out the garden on game nights aren't really Knicks fans. It's like a broadway show to them, it's an event. They cheer when the Knicks win a meaningless game in March when we really need to lose. They cheer amazing performances by the opposition. It is what it is.
RE: RE: forget assists  
BigBlueShock : 11/13/2017 11:39 am : link
In comment 13689905 Greg from LI said:
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he is shooting 40 percent and is averaging almost 4 turnovers a game and terrible defense...



Why would you bring up shooting? Frenchy is shooting 34%.

Not to speak for 16, but when the only strength to your game is scoring, it makes that number a bit more noteworthy, no? Frank is not a scorer, his strengths are playing D and distributing the ball. Which is what this team needs
Lebron meant to say  
KWALL2 : 11/13/2017 11:41 am : link
The Lakers.

That's the team trait clearly made the wrong draft pick.
RE: RE: forget assists  
nygiants16 : 11/13/2017 11:42 am : link
In comment 13689905 Greg from LI said:
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he is shooting 40 percent and is averaging almost 4 turnovers a game and terrible defense...



Why would you bring up shooting? Frenchy is shooting 34%.


brcause. smiths best trait is scoring...

franks best trait is defense not scoring
lebron continues to put foot in his mouth  
nygiants16 : 11/13/2017 11:45 am : link
rips kanter for attacking him says to get his pants out of a bunch, says he was not ripping frank...
Is this all on twitter?  
Keith : 11/13/2017 11:47 am : link
Where can I see this stuff? Should make for a fun night at the Garden.
RE: Is this all on twitter?  
nygiants16 : 11/13/2017 11:49 am : link
In comment 13689946 Keith said:
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Where can I see this stuff? Should make for a fun night at the Garden.


begely has most of it...

lebron was speaking at shoot around this morning..

so lebron claims it was aimed at phil? what was the point? phil is no longer runnkng the knicks? what is the point?
scoring is not Dennis Smith's only positive trait  
Greg from LI : 11/13/2017 11:51 am : link
He's an excellent passer and playmaker. Stop with the bullshit Marbury comparisons, they are different players. I've already addressed that multiple times in the past. .

Raking Smith over the coals because he doesn't have more assists playing with a bunch of guys who suck ass is rather silly. You want to criticize his defense, then fine - he's not a great defender and may never be more than average there.
RE: RE: Is this all on twitter?  
Heisenberg : 11/13/2017 12:03 pm : link
In comment 13689951 nygiants16 said:
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Where can I see this stuff? Should make for a fun night at the Garden.



begely has most of it...

lebron was speaking at shoot around this morning..

so lebron claims it was aimed at phil? what was the point? phil is no longer runnkng the knicks? what is the point?


Phil called out his posse and LeBron is still pissed off about it. It's dumb shit all around.
as trivial as it is  
nygiants16 : 11/13/2017 12:05 pm : link
it is really nice to see a knick team genually angry at a team they are playing, no more of this banana boat bullshit...

Lebron can claim its not about Frank all he wants  
giants#1 : 11/13/2017 12:08 pm : link
but the comment implies that DSJ is and will be better than Frank (otherwise its not a dig at PJ). Therefore, he clearly is taking a dig at Frank too (perhaps indirect if you want to give LBJ the benefit).
And now Lebron going after Kanter  
Ace718 : 11/13/2017 12:12 pm : link
From Rachel Nichols' Twitter

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LeBron confirms of course he was taking a shot at Phil Jackson when he said the Knicks missed by not drafting Dennis Smith:
"For clarification of people who just live in a box & for Enes Kanter, who always’s got something to say. [shakes head] I don’t know what’s wrong with him."
he doesnt know whats wrong with him?  
nygiants16 : 11/13/2017 12:14 pm : link
he came to the aid of a teammate, what do you mean you dont know what is wrong with him?
RE: And now Lebron going after Kanter  
BigBlueShock : 11/13/2017 12:14 pm : link
In comment 13690021 Ace718 said:
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From Rachel Nichols' Twitter



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LeBron confirms of course he was taking a shot at Phil Jackson when he said the Knicks missed by not drafting Dennis Smith:
"For clarification of people who just live in a box & for Enes Kanter, who always’s got something to say. [shakes head] I don’t know what’s wrong with him."


Bwahaaaaa! KANTER always has something to say? Freaking LeBron is ALWAYS running his mouth about something. Pot, meet kettle.
typical lebron  
nygiants16 : 11/13/2017 12:15 pm : link
he makes a stupid comment and it is everyone elses fault for responding negatively
His logic is bullcrap.  
manh george : 11/13/2017 12:19 pm : link
Whether his target was Jackson or not, Frank was collateral damage.

And comparisons at this stage in bother players' careers are nonsense. I will continue to point out that Frank is not physically toned the way a star American talent would be at this age. He also played very little against the level of talent Smith saw in the US. And, the kind of knowledgeable, high-vision point guard he will be takes longer to mature than a drive-and-pass athletic pg like Smith.

His shooting is not a strength at this point, but he has hands as soft as butter--the kinds that ultimately allow world class outside shooting, as he gets stronger.

And I say all of this without taking a potshot at the other kid, unlike LeBron.

The kind of defense Frank is already playing is uncanny. He is a real potential future DPOY. How many under-20 guard IN HISTORY have shown those kinds of defensive skills?
Heres an article about Lebrons response..  
Keith : 11/13/2017 12:19 pm : link
Some good stuff. Lebron comes off like an idiot. It's obvious that he was taking a shot at Phil and Ntilikina was collateral damage, but his explanation is stupid. I pray we put it on them tnt.
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I don't know anything about what he said  
santacruzom : 11/13/2017 12:34 pm : link
This is the first I've heard of it, and I haven't hunted down his actual quote to try to put in context, but is it at all possible that he actually meant it as a clumsy compliment to the Knicks? Like, Dennis Smith Jr is so exciting, and the Knicks' unexpected success is so cool, that it would be nice if the two were combined?
RE: I don't know anything about what he said  
Keith : 11/13/2017 12:38 pm : link
In comment 13690070 santacruzom said:
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This is the first I've heard of it, and I haven't hunted down his actual quote to try to put in context, but is it at all possible that he actually meant it as a clumsy compliment to the Knicks? Like, Dennis Smith Jr is so exciting, and the Knicks' unexpected success is so cool, that it would be nice if the two were combined?


No. He was clearly trying to take a shot at Phil and the Knicks. Dennis Smith Jr is one of his buddies that he's known and mentored for a while. He told everything during the draft that he thinks the Knicks are taking him at 8. FF to now and he decideds to take a shot, without even being asked, and say that the Knicks messed up. So the 8th team in teh draft messed up, not the 8 teams that passed on SMith. Just the 8th team??
Wish somebody  
chopperhatch : 11/13/2017 12:46 pm : link
Would just punch Bron Bron in the face.
What’s funny is there’s been so little drama around the Knicks  
mfsd : 11/13/2017 12:53 pm : link
that bonnie Prince Lebron bringing this up is the first time Jax’s name has been discussed this season
If you want to get annoyed  
Keith : 11/13/2017 12:59 pm : link
here is a terrible article in teh daily news. This "writer" is the new Shaun King for the Daily News, but heres his awesome take on the NBA and the Knicks.
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RE: If you want to get annoyed  
nygiants16 : 11/13/2017 1:11 pm : link
In comment 13690144 Keith said:
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here is a terrible article in teh daily news. This "writer" is the new Shaun King for the Daily News, but heres his awesome take on the NBA and the Knicks. Link - ( New Window )


is he serious?
He seems to be the kind of "writer" that says absurd things  
Keith : 11/13/2017 1:12 pm : link
for attention. I probably shouldn't have linked his article, but thats the sense I get when I read the daily news.
Lebron: "People got their panties in a bunch in New York."  
GiantFilthy : 11/13/2017 1:42 pm : link
lol he means u guys
Even I think that article is terrible  
Greg from LI : 11/13/2017 1:57 pm : link
and I wanted Dennis Smith.
Great sign  
PaulN : 11/13/2017 1:59 pm : link
To see the Knick players come out and stand up for Frank. It shows the team likes and respects what Frank is doing now as far as work and his play and what they feel he can become. It also shows that this team is galvanized, they are truly a team. In a season where the Giants have all but torn the hearts right out of us, it's the Knicks of all teams that are making up for that by pleasantly surprising us all. I am, actually starting to think about adding the NBA package.
I know it’s only November  
mfsd : 11/13/2017 2:06 pm : link
but I really want to see the Knicks make a statement tonight. Screw LeBron and his band of big shots
RE: He seems to be the kind of  
Stu11 : 11/13/2017 3:06 pm : link
In comment 13690191 Keith said:
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for attention. I probably shouldn't have linked his article, but thats the sense I get when I read the daily news.

No worries Keith. I need something to compliment the litter in my Bunny's litter box so printing out that "article" should do the trick...
Yes DSjr is very talented and will help the Mavs win games  
Stu11 : 11/13/2017 3:21 pm : link
but there is also other aspects to a player that can help teams win. I think Frank can absolutely be a winning PG with his D, playmaking ability and jump shot. Just because he and DSjr are the same age doesn't mean they are developmentally at the same stage. I think we are nowhere near Frank's ceiling. Could be similar with DSjr but who knows.
How are the cavs going to keep  
nygiants16 : 11/13/2017 3:23 pm : link
oquinn, kp and kanter off of the boards? kevin love is the starting center..

now love will be a tough guard for kanter but how do the cavs stop the knicks from killing them on the offensive glass?
I hope Frank comes out hot tonight  
Heisenberg : 11/13/2017 3:28 pm : link
Would love for him to roast the Cavs.
I dont  
nygiants16 : 11/13/2017 3:41 pm : link
i just want him to play his game, no reason for him to try and go out and score 20 points, not his game
Lebron should stick with just playing hoops  
djm : 11/13/2017 3:47 pm : link
he's the worst GM in the NBA. And if Lebron played under Phil he'd have 6-7 titles rather than 3.
Can KOQ  
Carl in CT : 11/13/2017 5:43 pm : link
Rip off his head? Oakley would. Mason would (RIP). Shit I hope some guys play with balls.
Just play team ball and hopefully win. Not easy against Lebron,  
yatqb : 11/13/2017 5:46 pm : link
no matter who his teammates are...hopefully the Cavs keep falling apart.
LeGM isn't nearly as talented as LeBron.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/13/2017 6:26 pm : link
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Noah not dressing  
Keith : 11/13/2017 6:55 pm : link
tnt.
More excited for Knicks basketball than Giants football.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/13/2017 7:04 pm : link
2017.
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