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Posted by Mike Florio on November 12, 2017, 10:06 PM EST When it comes to the lingering dispute regarding the Roger Goodell contract extension, much has been written and said about the potential nuclear option possessed by Cowboys owner Jerry Jones. But the rest of the owners (or, more accurately, those who oppose Jones) have a nuclear option of their own. They could, in theory, attempt to trigger forfeiture of the Dallas franchise. A league source with knowledge of the situation tells PFT that multiple owners already have been discussing the possibility, which flows from Article VIII of the NFL’s Constitution & Bylaws. Specifically, Section 8.13 authorizes the Commissioner to determine that an owner “has been or is guilty of conduct detrimental to the welfare of the League or professional football.” If the Commissioner believes the available sanction (a $500,000 fine) is “not adequate or sufficient,” the Commissioner may refer the issue to the NFL’s Executive Committee, which has the power to compel “[c]ancellation or forfeiture of the franchise in the League of any member club involved or implicated,” with a directive to sell the team.... |
Jones is a horrible person, total spoiled child.
Many are saying he wants Goodell gone because of the Elliot fiasco and not the other league issues.
Jerrah is an easy target for Giants fans (and he loves that by the way, FWIW). But the guy is a first rate businessman and has made Billions for the NFL.
This could be the dumbest move they could make.
Is there a way to see Goodell and Jerry Jones take the pipe together?
You keep referring to people in the stands as your mark. The priced normal people out of the stadium. That's an owners decision not a commissioner.
The biggest problem is they don't compete well with overall entertainment anymore. I'd much rather binge watch a Netflix show then watch 2 games I could careless about because I really don't have a rooting interest in them. I will however watch college football all Sunday, because my teams fate is tied to teams that could win or lose above mine AND the games are much more fun to watch.
If this is the cause of the rift I'm with Jones. Goodell doesn't have a dime of his own money invested in the NFL and walked into a situation at least as good as the present. I wonder what he would do if the owners offer him an extension at $20 million per year. If he turned it down my guess is someone at least as competent as him would take the deal.
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not been following this closely but on the surface this seems to be a war between Jones and Goodell, with the former believing that the commissioner is killing the league. If that is true - as much as I hate the Cowboys - I'm with Jones on this.
Many are saying he wants Goodell gone because of the Elliot fiasco and not the other league issues.
It may play a part but Goodell absolutely botched the kneeling issue and it has to be hurting JJ's wallet. His handling of Kaepernick has been catastrophic.
People keep saying that, and yet I don't recall seeing empty stadiums all over the place a few years ago. It's not as if prices were reasonable until this year.
Hate to say it, but I too agree Goodell is ruining the game. It would be interesting to have someone with a different perspective running things.
I wonder where Kraft stands on this. He used to be very pro-Goodell, but that was before getting butt-raped by him on Deflate Gate. One day he's protesting the hell out of the league decision saying he was going to fight it. The next day, he's suspiciously dropping the matter completely.
He essentially works for the owners, and the owners (for the most part) seemed to support the players. There were a few that didn't (Jones, Texans' owner).
If Goodell said all players need to stand at attention, you might have had a bigger issue.........right now it's still on 1-2% of the players.
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You keep referring to people in the stands as your mark. The priced normal people out of the stadium. That's an owners decision not a commissioner.
People keep saying that, and yet I don't recall seeing empty stadiums all over the place a few years ago. It's not as if prices were reasonable until this year.
It's not happening to teams where the team is good. We have an empty stadium because we stink. The Niners had stunk since they opened their new stadium. Rams have stunk in the past, but I think their attendance will get better now that they are getting better.
I'm sure the Patriots still sell out or are near capacity every game.
The next CBA negotiations are going to lead to a lock-out.
The salary cap if anything will start going down.
Just like the Giants need changes maybe the league does to.
Fixed it for you.
Incentive for players to care about the larger welfare of the league and not just their individual contracts.
Create program within org. that helps with former players to transition into coaching & front office positions.
If a bunch of people with cheese bricks on their heads can own a team, then players whose talents/work & risk are the actual product, then they should be in ownership too.
Incentive for players to care about the larger welfare of the league and not just their individual contracts.
Create program within org. that helps with former players to transition into coaching & front office positions.
If a bunch of people with cheese bricks on their heads can own a team, then players whose talents/work & risk are the actual product, then they should be in ownership too.
Are you seriously suggesting that a billion + dollar asset simply be taken away from the owner that purchased it? Those people with cheese bricks on their heads PAID for their shares.
JJ is pissed because Elliot got suspended. The anthem thing is on the owners - they are the bosses and Goodell works for them. It is obvious that a percentage of the fans are disgusted on the kneeling thing, but people are still showing up.
We don't like Goodell because of London games, Thursday Night Football and some weak handling of domestic abuse situations. But just what is it that JJ doesn't like?
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and give it to the players. Let them have a seat at the table, tie profits their pensions/medical insurance/ect. Pair it with hospital/charity/sports medicine/research.
Incentive for players to care about the larger welfare of the league and not just their individual contracts.
Create program within org. that helps with former players to transition into coaching & front office positions.
If a bunch of people with cheese bricks on their heads can own a team, then players whose talents/work & risk are the actual product, then they should be in ownership too.
Are you seriously suggesting that a billion + dollar asset simply be taken away from the owner that purchased it? Those people with cheese bricks on their heads PAID for their shares.
And the players can PAY for theirs.
As someone said above its always about the money - The owner's commodities (called the players) do not have guaranteed contracts in perhaps the most violent sport outside of the Roman Colleseum. Owners could easily expand the salary cap and add more players and take less profit but that will not happen. The leagues PR machine goes into overdrive for any troubling issue (eg domestic violence? Look at our "public service announcements" brain injuries? No relationship to the hits but "We created a great fund for some of the players") OK bring out our frontman to explain all of this! Now we have Jones who has always wanted more advertising money for himself from his team who he thinks IS the NFL while the other owners traditionally have agreed to share equally going back to the Mara and Halas families. This is about many of the owners sick of Jones (as we all are). Billionaires v Billionaires. How much money is enough? As the old saying goes - "Who do you root for?" The plague
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and give it to the players. Let them have a seat at the table, tie profits their pensions/medical insurance/ect. Pair it with hospital/charity/sports medicine/research.
Incentive for players to care about the larger welfare of the league and not just their individual contracts.
Create program within org. that helps with former players to transition into coaching & front office positions.
If a bunch of people with cheese bricks on their heads can own a team, then players whose talents/work & risk are the actual product, then they should be in ownership too.
Are you seriously suggesting that a billion + dollar asset simply be taken away from the owner that purchased it? Those people with cheese bricks on their heads PAID for their shares.
And the players can PAY for theirs.
Oh really? They can come up with cash and debt based financing in the billions?
I also feel the consumer is changing and we have a lot more entertainment options that we'd rather consume. I feel if the make going to a game a more affordable experience that is where you're going to attract more of the younger generation. I went to my first Giants game with my dad 28 years ago and remember it like it was yesterday. I took my fiancée to the Broncos game this year (I live in Denver now) and probably dropped over $500 on the two of us. That's ridiculous to do that week in and week out. The game needs to be returned to the people if it's going to survive.
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and give it to the players. Let them have a seat at the table, tie profits their pensions/medical insurance/ect. Pair it with hospital/charity/sports medicine/research.
Incentive for players to care about the larger welfare of the league and not just their individual contracts.
Create program within org. that helps with former players to transition into coaching & front office positions.
If a bunch of people with cheese bricks on their heads can own a team, then players whose talents/work & risk are the actual product, then they should be in ownership too.
Are you seriously suggesting that a billion + dollar asset simply be taken away from the owner that purchased it? Those people with cheese bricks on their heads PAID for their shares.
And the players can PAY for theirs.
Oh really? They can come up with cash and debt based financing in the billions?
Caps @ 167mil this year X 32 teams. Even without every team right at the cap, a lot of money is payed each year and it adds up quick. Of course lots of structuring & percentages would have to be figured out and there is still revenue sharing across all teams. They could get a loan.
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and give it to the players. Let them have a seat at the table, tie profits their pensions/medical insurance/ect. Pair it with hospital/charity/sports medicine/research.
Incentive for players to care about the larger welfare of the league and not just their individual contracts.
Create program within org. that helps with former players to transition into coaching & front office positions.
If a bunch of people with cheese bricks on their heads can own a team, then players whose talents/work & risk are the actual product, then they should be in ownership too.
Are you seriously suggesting that a billion + dollar asset simply be taken away from the owner that purchased it? Those people with cheese bricks on their heads PAID for their shares.
And the players can PAY for theirs.
Oh really? They can come up with cash and debt based financing in the billions?
Caps @ 167mil this year X 32 teams. Even without every team right at the cap, a lot of money is payed each year and it adds up quick. Of course lots of structuring & percentages would have to be figured out and there is still revenue sharing across all teams. They could get a loan.
You're buying a team, an asset worth billion(s), a whole lot more than what the team's annual salary expense is. In some cases you're buying a stadium. What you propose doesn't even begin to deal with that.
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not been following this closely but on the surface this seems to be a war between Jones and Goodell, with the former believing that the commissioner is killing the league. If that is true - as much as I hate the Cowboys - I'm with Jones on this.
People say this all the time, and maybe it's true that he's just a puppet, but.....if he's nothing more than a puppet, what the hell are they paying him tens of millions of dollars for? They could trot out some other empty suit for much less.
Have to agree Eric....some of the things Goodell has been asking for in his new contract that heard on the radio today are outrageous. Can't believe the other owners would go along with it.
Yes, I think that was in the report too.
Pay me that and I'll change my name to Howdy Doody.