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looie : 11/13/2017 10:32 am
Forgive me if this was brought up in a prior post, but what about his level of responsibility for this pathetic D that has essentially quit? Of course McAdoo as HC deserves the lionís share of the blame, but what about the D coordinator? We all have a soft spot in our heart for Spags because of the Super Bowl years and last yearís performance by the D, and thatís understandable, but I donít seem to hear many people calling him out for this absolute horror show by his unit. Am I right? Wrong?
Problem is  
djstat : 11/13/2017 10:34 am : link
To me, scheme does not appear to be an issue. Effort is. For that I blame Spags for not firing his group up, but Millennial's are a different breed. It is not Spags fault that Apple is a worthless piece of trash.
Spags is fine.  
Jimmy Googs : 11/13/2017 10:35 am : link
We just need to spend another $200 mill next offseason
Weíve been discussing him as well  
bradshaw44 : 11/13/2017 10:35 am : link
I admitted I had rose colored super bowl glasses on for the guy. And after last year I thought the magic was back. But honestly he can go as well. He holds responsibility in this mess as well.
If they fire McAdoo they really can't make him interim HC can they?  
GiantsRage2007 : 11/13/2017 10:37 am : link
I mean... with the revolt in the secondary?
They have no pass rush with 4  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 11/13/2017 10:40 am : link
Without a pass rush they can't get pressure unless they blitz. And the LBs suck at blitzing and the safeties can't cover.

Even though Spags hasn't covered himself with glory, it's not a recipe for defensive success.
Does David Merritt  
Powerclean765 : 11/13/2017 10:40 am : link
have any coordinator or HC aspirations?
31st in defense  
jeff57 : 11/13/2017 10:42 am : link
He has a big share of the responsibility.
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Banks : 11/13/2017 10:43 am : link
I'm surprised they quit on him. I can see them hating Mac, but you'd think Spags would command enough respect that the players wouldn't quit on him. Apparently not
Spags  
lugnut : 11/13/2017 10:47 am : link
is at LEAST as responsible as McAdon't. By definition he's closer to the D players, no? That part is really weird. I thought in his first tenure the players loved him, some said so(?) And I can't believe in the intervening few years that players fundamentally changed, "millenials" or not.
Tim Walton  
blueberry : 11/13/2017 10:49 am : link
is the cornerbacks coach - let's blame him
Spagnuolo should be fired  
RetroJint : 11/13/2017 10:59 am : link
last week, actually. He won't be because he is a reliable informant to Mara. 85% of McAdoo's disciplinary problems stem from the Corners not being happy with the coverages being called. Add a fucking dollop of there being a couple of high-priced linemen who are going through the motions.

The linebackers--ok they got wiped out yet again. Thompson stinks-ok that happens . You miss on an evaluation .

After the corners, the final and perhaps most poignant reason why he should be removed is the deterioration of Collins's play. This guy had a season comparable to Strahan's Dline impact or LT's effect from WOLB. Now he's lost .
Carl banks blaming it on injuries to the lbers  
micky : 11/13/2017 11:15 am : link
and lies on the injuries
Spags blows. He might bounce back if Strahan, Tuck, Marshall  
Victor in CT : 11/13/2017 11:25 am : link
Robustelli, Martin, Katcavage and Gregory all come back at 25 yrs old next year.
I left out Osi. Please forgive the omission  
Victor in CT : 11/13/2017 11:25 am : link
:-)
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arcarsenal : 11/13/2017 11:27 am : link
Spagnuolo has a good deal of worst/near worst defenses on his resume now.

I think it's safe to say the shine is off the star.
RE: Problem is  
Kyle in NY : 11/13/2017 11:28 am : link
In comment 13689732 djstat said:
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To me, scheme does not appear to be an issue. Effort is. For that I blame Spags for not firing his group up, but Millennial's are a different breed. It is not Spags fault that Apple is a worthless piece of trash.


These damn millenials!!!
This may be Spags' last coordinator role.  
cosmicj : 11/13/2017 11:30 am : link
He really has compiled a puzzling record as DC and HC.
RE: Does David Merritt  
mitch300 : 11/13/2017 11:38 am : link
In comment 13689750 Powerclean765 said:
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have any coordinator or HC aspirations?

The coach of the secondary. The players that are performing the worst. No thank you.
RE: .  
BillKo : 11/13/2017 11:59 am : link
In comment 13689890 arcarsenal said:
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Spagnuolo has a good deal of worst/near worst defenses on his resume now.

I think it's safe to say the shine is off the star.


I always liked Spags, but damn this is becoming too coincidental.......he's around more bad defenses than good ones.
How can you justify keeping him  
montanagiant : 11/13/2017 12:05 pm : link
With the effort this D has put forth this year? You have pro bowl players getting their ass handed to them by scrub receivers, no pass rush, and an embarrassing record of being the bitch to any TE that shows up
RE: I left out Osi. Please forgive the omission  
Sarcastic Sam : 11/13/2017 12:06 pm : link
In comment 13689883 Victor in CT said:
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:-)


The defense improved in 2008 after losing Strahan AND Osi.
If making Spags HC takes him off the defense  
Stan in LA : 11/13/2017 12:17 pm : link
I'm all for it!
RE: They have no pass rush with 4  
Matt M. : 11/13/2017 12:19 pm : link
In comment 13689748 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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Without a pass rush they can't get pressure unless they blitz. And the LBs suck at blitzing and the safeties can't cover.

Even though Spags hasn't covered himself with glory, it's not a recipe for defensive success.
Spags has never had a decent defense when the DL hasn't been dominant. His blitzes and coverages don't hold up. This group gets no pass rush from the front 4, and the rest of the D has folded as a result.
Spags has three problems...  
BamaBlue : 11/13/2017 12:27 pm : link
holding the defense back this season:

Jenoris Jenkins
Eli Apple
JPP

Combined with the worst linebacking corps that's not in Cleveland, it's easy to see why this defense has given-up 84 points in the last 8 quarters.
It's occurred to me  
Alan in Toledo : 11/13/2017 12:33 pm : link
that his defensive play calls are deliberately poor. Why, I wouldn't know, but they've become consistently terrible -- especially for someone with his record.
Mara has to realize,  
Doomster : 11/13/2017 12:42 pm : link
that canning a DC, than an OC, and the a HC, has not worked....

A clean sweep is needed......but if the wrong guy is chosen, it will look like the 60's-70's again....
Spagnuolo has fielded one good defense since November 2008.  
Big Blue Blogger : 11/13/2017 12:52 pm : link
His other units have run the gamut from awful to historically awful. There is absolutely no reason for him to survive the inevitable housecleaning.

That said, in the unlikely event that McAdoo is fired during the season, Spagnuolo is the logical choice for interim HC - simply because he has done it before and there's less risk of complete chaos on the sideline with him in charge than other candidates like Sullivan and Quinn. I hope none of them would be interviewed for the permanent job, but that's a different isssue.

I can't shake the suspicion that the Maras consider Mike Sullivan a head coaching prospect. Not sure why I think that - maybe it just comes from a lifetime of watching that family make decisions.
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