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Milton : 11/15/2017 8:17 am
Okay, so I'm 8-2 and in first place in my 12-team PPR league and so now I'm purely focused on the playoffs, which are just two rounds, week 15 and week 16.

That being the case, I'm looking at guys who might be coming off IR (i.e., just picked up Greg Olsen and Danny Woodhead) and/or backups who could see a major uptick if the starter is lost to injury (i.e., just picked up Ekeler). I'm currently considering David Johnson, Charcandrick West, and Ezekiel Elliott (he was just dropped tonight).

Would you drop Ekeler and/or Woodhead for any of the above-mentioned three? My starters at RB are Bell and Hunt and my current #1 backup is Alfred Morris (if Morris puts in another 5-point effort this Sunday I may consider dropping him as well).

Ekler had a fumble late last week  
JayBinQueens : 11/15/2017 9:37 am : link
so it'll be interesting to see if it changes his touches.

I think Woodhead will be solid and if David Johnson comes back for the playoffs that would be huge for you.

Being depleted at WR, I'm curious to see how Corey Coleman does now that he's back. Yes, it's the Browns but he has always put up decent numbers
Get Elliot  
Mr. Nickels : 11/15/2017 10:42 am : link
Court date Dec 1 small chance he can play both week 15 and 16. Even if he loses, he will play in week 16 for you. Drop Ekeler for him.
Whoever dropped Elliott is a maroon  
allstarjim : 11/15/2017 11:13 am : link
He is definitely going to play week 16 even in worst case scenario.
RE: Whoever dropped Elliott is a maroon  
Mr. Nickels : 11/15/2017 11:40 am : link
In comment 13692911 allstarjim said:
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He is definitely going to play week 16 even in worst case scenario.


Could have been an eliminated team. But still..
RE: Ekler had a fumble late last week  
allstarjim : 11/15/2017 11:46 am : link
In comment 13692784 JayBinQueens said:
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so it'll be interesting to see if it changes his touches.

I think Woodhead will be solid and if David Johnson comes back for the playoffs that would be huge for you.

Being depleted at WR, I'm curious to see how Corey Coleman does now that he's back. Yes, it's the Browns but he has always put up decent numbers


As a once-bitten, twice shy former owner of Corey Coleman, I must say, this claim of "he has always put up decent numbers," cannot be substantiated. Last year, in 10 games, he scored double-digit fantasy points only once (he did also score 9.8 fantasy points once), and scored less than 5 fantasy points on 7 of the 10 games in standard scoring. And it's not that he fared better in PPR, as he had 3 catches or fewer in 7 of the 10 games as well. That is more indecent than decent.

However, he's a great topic to bring up, because I do believe his talent is immense. He is capable of huge things and it might be fun to watch him and Josh Gordon on the field together, though I'm tempering my expectations of the latter's performance until next year (if he can stay sober).

The one thing holding Coleman back is the QB situation in Cleveland. When they can get that position figured out, I will be a happy player in Coleman stock, because if they get someone who can sling it, then he will be in the top-20 WR conversation easily. Now, not so much. I am holding him in a deep league in my IR spot. But, I would prefer to have Dede Westbrook than Coleman at this point.
I need help also.  
allstarjim : 11/15/2017 12:07 pm : link
Quick update, though. I did get Robert Woods in my keeper league, cost me basically nothing as I dropped Jack Doyle with Travis Kelce coming off of bye, and was able to re-acquire Jake Elliott. Someone put in a claim for him. I stayed up late and I put in a late waiver claim, but since I also had successfully used it on Woods, it likely only cost me 3 waiver spots at most. Which is a good segue into my next point...Greg Olsen is available and looks like he will be playing in week 12.

I have a dilemma, I would like to pick up Olsen, as I don't want him going to a playoff competitor and I have no depth behind Kelce should he go down. But I feel like dropping a useful player on my team also isn't a great idea.

This is a 5-keeper league (no forgoing of draft picks, the first 5 rounds of the draft are your keepers, and then it's your draft order after that)...I have a good idea of who I want my keepers to be, which makes this tougher.

Here is my team, with the exception of my starting QB:

RBs: Jordan Howard, Jay Ajayi, Jerick McKinnon, Joe Mixon, Derrick Henry, and Alex Collins
WRs: Doug Baldwin, Stefon Diggs, DeVante Parker, Robert Woods
TE: Travis Kelce

I also have Deshaun Watson on my active roster, because my IR spot is filled with Dalvin Cook, and I of course want both to be keepers.

Who would you, if any, drop to acquire Greg Olsen and why? I don't think I can drop a WR because it leaves me kind of thin. I really want to keep Watson. So would any of you drop a guy from the RB depth to add Olsen?
Strategy  
BocaGiants91 : 11/15/2017 12:15 pm : link
I’m taking the stance of preserving my Waiver claim priority in case some moron decides to drop Zeke, David Johnson or someone who might move the needle significantly in a playoff situation. I made no claims this week, stand at No. 4 which is good since I made claims last week multiple times so I was at 9.
RE: I need help also.  
pjcas18 : 11/15/2017 12:22 pm : link
In comment 13692972 allstarjim said:
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Quick update, though. I did get Robert Woods in my keeper league, cost me basically nothing as I dropped Jack Doyle with Travis Kelce coming off of bye, and was able to re-acquire Jake Elliott. Someone put in a claim for him. I stayed up late and I put in a late waiver claim, but since I also had successfully used it on Woods, it likely only cost me 3 waiver spots at most. Which is a good segue into my next point...Greg Olsen is available and looks like he will be playing in week 12.

I have a dilemma, I would like to pick up Olsen, as I don't want him going to a playoff competitor and I have no depth behind Kelce should he go down. But I feel like dropping a useful player on my team also isn't a great idea.

This is a 5-keeper league (no forgoing of draft picks, the first 5 rounds of the draft are your keepers, and then it's your draft order after that)...I have a good idea of who I want my keepers to be, which makes this tougher.

Here is my team, with the exception of my starting QB:

RBs: Jordan Howard, Jay Ajayi, Jerick McKinnon, Joe Mixon, Derrick Henry, and Alex Collins
WRs: Doug Baldwin, Stefon Diggs, DeVante Parker, Robert Woods
TE: Travis Kelce

I also have Deshaun Watson on my active roster, because my IR spot is filled with Dalvin Cook, and I of course want both to be keepers.

Who would you, if any, drop to acquire Greg Olsen and why? I don't think I can drop a WR because it leaves me kind of thin. I really want to keep Watson. So would any of you drop a guy from the RB depth to add Olsen?


If anything like you say I'd pick up Olsen pre-emptively so one of your opponents can't get him. I'd probably feel confident dropping Alex Collins to get him. Based on your lineup a lot of bad things would need to happen for Collins to see your starting roster.
In my keeper league  
pjcas18 : 11/15/2017 12:27 pm : link
we keep 2 players and you lose the round the player was drafted if you keep him and every subsequent year the round you lose is cut in half rounding up (to a lower round).

Right now my keepers project to be DeShaun Watson (8th round) and Michael Thomas (6th round). Also considering Jordan Howard (4th round).

but Odell Beckham is a FA. He was drafted in the first round, so I could pick him up, and most free agents you lose an 8th round pick UNLESS they were drafted in the first two rounds, then you lose the round.

So, is it worth picking up Beckham just to avoid someone else keeping him in the 1st? Unless I read that Watson isn't likely to come back healthy or that Thomas and/or Howard both suffer injuries I can't imagine keeping Odell but who knows, a 4-game slide in the final 4 and i could wind up in the draft lottery (worst 4 non-playoff teams have a top pick lottery) and I could then re-draft Odell if I keep him off someone else's roster.

Worth it? I'd need to drop Dede Westbrook or Corey Coleman to do this. Or Will Fuller.
RE: In my keeper league  
allstarjim : 11/15/2017 1:11 pm : link
In comment 13693009 pjcas18 said:
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we keep 2 players and you lose the round the player was drafted if you keep him and every subsequent year the round you lose is cut in half rounding up (to a lower round).

Right now my keepers project to be DeShaun Watson (8th round) and Michael Thomas (6th round). Also considering Jordan Howard (4th round).

but Odell Beckham is a FA. He was drafted in the first round, so I could pick him up, and most free agents you lose an 8th round pick UNLESS they were drafted in the first two rounds, then you lose the round.

So, is it worth picking up Beckham just to avoid someone else keeping him in the 1st? Unless I read that Watson isn't likely to come back healthy or that Thomas and/or Howard both suffer injuries I can't imagine keeping Odell but who knows, a 4-game slide in the final 4 and i could wind up in the draft lottery (worst 4 non-playoff teams have a top pick lottery) and I could then re-draft Odell if I keep him off someone else's roster.

Worth it? I'd need to drop Dede Westbrook or Corey Coleman to do this. Or Will Fuller.


I would say worth it, I would let go of Coleman to make it happen.
Jim..Drop Collins.  
superspynyg : 11/15/2017 1:51 pm : link
Would you drop Jordan Reed at this point? I want to pick up LAC Def for this week. I have Cook starting and Olsen coming of IR next week. The only reason I still have him is next week he plays the Giants (if he plays). He always goes off vs the GMEN.

Other Def is Seattle
RE: I need help also.  
Milton : 11/15/2017 2:47 pm : link
In comment 13692972 allstarjim said:
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Who would you, if any, drop to acquire Greg Olsen and why?
Include me with the drop Collins crowd, which is especially true if you can flex a TE. With Woodhead coming back things will get even more crowded in the Ravens backfield, meanwhile Olsen returns to a Panthers team that recently traded away Benjamin and lost Samuel to injury, so Olsen should be seeing plenty of targets.
I went ahead and pulled the trigger  
allstarjim : 11/15/2017 3:24 pm : link
I just hope Collins doesn't turn into the next Marshawn Lynch, and my team maintains relative health for the remainder of the year. However, I do feel that now I have quality depth at every position (other than QB, K, and DEF), and I feel the team is the most "complete" it's been really all season from top of the roster to the bottom.
RE: Jim..Drop Collins.  
pjcas18 : 11/15/2017 3:44 pm : link
In comment 13693107 superspynyg said:
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Would you drop Jordan Reed at this point? I want to pick up LAC Def for this week. I have Cook starting and Olsen coming of IR next week. The only reason I still have him is next week he plays the Giants (if he plays). He always goes off vs the GMEN.

Other Def is Seattle


I am back and forth on this. I want to drop Reed and just not 2nd guess it, but i can't.

I know as soon as I drop Reed he's going to be healthy and go off, I hate having two TE's the position is so shallow. However, I also have Evan Engram so I've been holding Reed and starting Engram.
RE: RE: Jim..Drop Collins.  
Sly Guy : 11/15/2017 3:48 pm : link
In comment 13693236 pjcas18 said:
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Would you drop Jordan Reed at this point? I want to pick up LAC Def for this week. I have Cook starting and Olsen coming of IR next week. The only reason I still have him is next week he plays the Giants (if he plays). He always goes off vs the GMEN.

Other Def is Seattle



I am back and forth on this. I want to drop Reed and just not 2nd guess it, but i can't.

I know as soon as I drop Reed he's going to be healthy and go off, I hate having two TE's the position is so shallow. However, I also have Evan Engram so I've been holding Reed and starting Engram.


Reed is droppable if you don't plan on using him on a fill in flex position. Don't fret over it.
I have.....  
OBJRoyal : 11/15/2017 3:57 pm : link
A weekly dilemma, though not a bad one to have, of who to play between Evan Engram and Jimmy Graham. Not playing Graham cost me points last week, but I still won handily. Which one would you play this week???

Also, grabbed Carr at QB since they could have a shoot out with the pats, but I also have Cousins. Is playing Carr the right choice??
I would go Engram  
allstarjim : 11/15/2017 7:48 pm : link
With confidence. You should only play Graham over Engram if the Giants matchup is really bad. Jacksonville, Steelers, maybe the Ravens. None of those teams are on the Giants' remaining schedule, so it probably should be Engram every week, unless it's a horrible weather game.
Just to piggy back  
allstarjim : 11/15/2017 7:54 pm : link
And this is not Giants' homerism, I really don't mislx that with fantasy football...but Engram is an elite fantasy TE1. He is in the top tier at this point with Ertz, Gronk, and Kelce.

Further, he leads all tight ends in targets, and is the #1 fantasy TE over the last 5 weeks. Graham is very good as well, but because of volume alone, and what EE is capable of from an athletic standpoint, I think he's your guy.
RE: Just to piggy back  
OBJRoyal : 11/16/2017 5:40 am : link
In comment 13693447 allstarjim said:
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And this is not Giants' homerism, I really don't mislx that with fantasy football...but Engram is an elite fantasy TE1. He is in the top tier at this point with Ertz, Gronk, and Kelce.

Further, he leads all tight ends in targets, and is the #1 fantasy TE over the last 5 weeks. Graham is very good as well, but because of volume alone, and what EE is capable of from an athletic standpoint, I think he's your guy.


Trust me, I really like EE as well. Hard to discount Grahams 6 td's the past 5 weeks and all the targets in the redzone.

Both seems to have difficult matchups this week as well. they play teams that don't give up TE production
TDs can be elusive  
allstarjim : 11/16/2017 10:49 pm : link
Engram is getting the volume. Volume normally wins.
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