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Orr MMQB: Who Is Ben McAdoo, and Can He Reclaim the Giants?

Defenderdawg : 11/17/2017 1:56 pm
Ben McAdoo has begun pulling aside individual Giants players for one-on-one talks in hopes of reclaiming the locker room. Conor Orr looks at McAdoo's roots, and his puzzling personality:
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McAdoo must be let go at the end of the season.  
NorwoodWideRight : 11/17/2017 2:06 pm : link
He may be an intelligent football mind, as Jerry Reese proclaims, and know the X's and O's but he is not a leader. By all accounts and perception watching him during games, he is not an inspiring leader of men. He's also not quick to act, which is clearly evident since it took getting to this point before any drastic measures were taken.

If he stays on with the Giants, he will be learning to coach and lead on the Giants' dime and at our expense.
Handley was and X's and O's guy also  
Giants86 : 11/17/2017 2:12 pm : link
some guys aren't cut out to be a head coach. I think Ben may be this kind of guy. Great read by the way.
This approach is completely consistent...  
Dan in the Springs : 11/17/2017 2:18 pm : link
with his overall approach, and it's flawed.

Compare his approach to Coughlin's.

When Coughlin was losing his locker room, he created a council of leaders and empowered them to make changes necessary to win. He empowered his coordinators to run things during the game, which gave him a chance to work his motivational magic IN-GAME, not during practice week.

Coughlin trusted and empowered his followers.

McAdoo does not want to give full control for the offense to his coordinator. He thinks he's the best one to run things. This means he has to count on others to motivate and instruct in-game.

McAdoo also thinks he's the one to fix the problems in the locker room, so he is personally going to address the players.

McAdoo does not show trust and does not empower his followers.

McAdoo may be very smart, but he'll be smarter when he realizes that synergy happens when the parts are empowered, not when the head insists on controlling each system individually.
Just to be fair  
George : 11/17/2017 2:27 pm : link
Coughlin did all those wonderful things after barely escaping with his job after the crappy ending to the 2006 regular season and after being told by management that he had to make some changes or else.

Just to be fair.
So what is McAdoo good at?  
trueblueinpw : 11/17/2017 2:27 pm : link
I think itís fairly obvious that McAdoo lacks leadership ability. But I think itís equally obvious that McAdoo doesnít have any particular ability as an Xs and Os guy. This article says he was good at charting plays and knew where everything was in the game plan binder. So what? Charting plays is drudgery which, while time consuming, isnít terribly difficult; knowing where something is in a playbook isnít nearly as useful as being able to put together a solid winning game. The next innovative game plan McAdoo brings to the Giants will be his first. Hard work can only take you so far, especially if you have lousy people skills. Being an NFL headcoach is a tall task and this guy just isnít qualified.
RE: Just to be fair  
Dan in the Springs : 11/17/2017 2:59 pm : link
In comment 13695082 George said:
Quote:
Coughlin did all those wonderful things after barely escaping with his job after the crappy ending to the 2006 regular season and after being told by management that he had to make some changes or else.

Just to be fair.


Absolutely. Just pointing out that when Coughlin had success his approach was different to the one McAdoo is taking right now. Will be interesting to see if McAdoo can figure it out himself.
This guy's parents obviously had a sense of humor.  
Pete in MD : 11/17/2017 3:15 pm : link
Quote:
ďHe knew the system the best,Ē says Ty Knott, a former Green Bay assistant who worked with McAdoo at multiple places.
Pat Hanlon should be part of the housecleaning as well  
nms24 : 11/17/2017 5:53 pm : link
He is just as accountable as McAdoo for the caustic tone that comes from the Giants these days.

If this is the best puff piece McAdoo can get, the Giants can do a lot better on the PR front.
RE: Just to be fair  
djm : 11/17/2017 7:09 pm : link
In comment 13695082 George said:
Quote:
Coughlin did all those wonderful things after barely escaping with his job after the crappy ending to the 2006 regular season and after being told by management that he had to make some changes or else.

Just to be fair.


And also to be fair coughlin went 11-5 and 8-8 in back to back years while the team was decimated with injuries late in both those seasons. 8-8 as bad as it got during the glory years. This is different.

With that said I can't help but feel for the guy. Great article. Maybe this was just a terrible mix or marriage. Maybe Ben is just the worst HC on planet earth. Maybe it's a little bit of both. This sucks.
RE: So what is McAdoo good at?  
Alan in Toledo : 11/18/2017 12:14 pm : link
In comment 13695083 trueblueinpw said:
Quote:
I think itís fairly obvious that McAdoo lacks leadership ability. But I think itís equally obvious that McAdoo doesnít have any particular ability as an Xs and Os guy. This article says he was good at charting plays and knew where everything was in the game plan binder. So what? Charting plays is drudgery which, while time consuming, isnít terribly difficult; knowing where something is in a playbook isnít nearly as useful as being able to put together a solid winning game. The next innovative game plan McAdoo brings to the Giants will be his first. Hard work can only take you so far, especially if you have lousy people skills. Being an NFL headcoach is a tall task and this guy just isnít qualified.

+1
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Route 9 : 11/18/2017 4:57 pm : link
Who is Ben MacAdoo? A clueless Giants coach who clearly doesn't know what he is doing and doesn't know how to lead a team. He's in over his head and is a terrible play caller despite having names such as Aaron Rodgers Odell Beckham in "his" offensive resume.

He's become a caricature and I laugh every time I see his face and hear his stupid idiotic quotes. Francesa ripped him apart and deservedly so. He has dissolved into a complete joke, his team has become a complete joke. He keeps in players in games who QUIT.

Don't you dare compare a Tom Coughlin team (who actually made the playoffs) compared to a lost coach's team where nearly every game in the last few weeks hasn't been competing AT ALL. I'd take 2006 a million times over this awful garbage. I'm tired of looking at him, I'm tired of hearing his name.

Nice try, but go away.
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