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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/18/2017 9:41 am
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The Giants will deploy their seventh different starting offensive line in 10 games on Sunday against the Chiefs. With right tackle Justin Pugh out with a back injury, rookie Chad Wheeler is set to make his first career start, according to a person familiar with the situation.

Bobby Hart opened the season as the starting right tackle, but an ankle injury coupled with poor play has allowed Wheeler to jump him on the depth chart. The Giants already had to move Pugh from left guard to right tackle due to Hart's injury and ineffectiveness.

Giants rookie Chad Wheeler set to start at right tackle - ( New Window )
Please pray  
BigBlueShock : 11/18/2017 9:43 am : link
For Eli.
Article on Wheeler in today's Post...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/18/2017 9:50 am : link
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So who is Chad Wheeler?

“He’s just a goofy, clumsy looking dude,” fellow rookie Evan Engram said with a laugh.

But no one — not the coaches, not Engram and not Pugh — doubts this “goofy dude’s” ability.

“Definitely one of the fastest learners in the whole locker room from day one,” Engram said. “He has a lot of potential.”

“We didn’t have a chance to get him up last week,” coach Ben McAdoo said of Wheeler, who has played just two snaps. “But as a young player, [he] played big time college football at a high level. And he’s someone that we feel has a high ceiling.”

“Chad, coming in this year, I think he made an impression on everybody,” Pugh said. “He’s got all the talent in the world.

“He’s going to be starter in the NFL on the offensive line for a lot of years.”

Rookie lineman wants to be the answer to major Giants question - ( New Window )
Good move  
g-baby : 11/18/2017 9:50 am : link
See what the kid has got. Cannot be worse than Hart.
Guess that  
joeinpa : 11/18/2017 9:57 am : link
Answers the question I posted yesterday. Wouldn t it be great if he played well and begin to look like a guy they could count on going forward.

Finding a tackle that can play would make this awful season a bit better
I know the Giants don’t want to screw  
Simms11 : 11/18/2017 9:57 am : link
with the line up any more then they have to, but this would be a good opportunity to put Flowers on his more natural side and Wheeler where he’s most comfortable. I know Flowers has been playing much, much better, and Wheeler is an inexperienced rookie, but this seems like a more logical lineup, especially with the power run blockers being then on the right side. Anyway, it’ll be interesting to see how Wheeler holds up for a full NFL game.
Wheeler will surprise and play well  
Earl the goat : 11/18/2017 9:58 am : link
Next year they’ll move him to left tackle his natural position and move Flowers to right tackle his natural position
Bobby Hart  
g-baby : 11/18/2017 10:00 am : link
another in our decorated line of mid-to-late round OL picks that will not make it past a first contract in the NFL

Adam Koets, Mitch Petrus, Brandon Mosley, James Brewer, Eric Herman, Bobby Hart (ironically, we cut Matt McCants, who probably had a more successful career than any of the guys listed).

Inability to draft and develop even backup-level OL is inexcusable.
If Wheeler develops  
WillVAB : 11/18/2017 10:01 am : link
It will make the OL rebuild a hell of a lot easier.
Can’t be worse than Hart  
jeff57 : 11/18/2017 10:07 am : link
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The new regime will put Wheeler at LT and Flowers at RT  
Ben in Tampa : 11/18/2017 10:08 am : link
Next year
RE: The new regime will put Wheeler at LT and Flowers at RT  
Beer Man : 11/18/2017 10:13 am : link
In comment 13695604 Ben in Tampa said:
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Next year
Maybe, maybe not. Flowers has shown great improvement this year.
RE: Wheeler will surprise and play well  
KeoweeFan : 11/18/2017 10:13 am : link
In comment 13695592 Earl the goat said:
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Next year they’ll move him to left tackle his natural position and move Flowers to right tackle his natural position

It should be an interesting spring. I just hope the new staff doesn't make pre-spring position decisions (Perkins, Flowers, Hart) and instead uses the time to make evaluations. (I think there was TOO much concern for continuity.)
the idea that he can't be worse than Hart is just not true  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 11/18/2017 10:14 am : link
there are a whole bunch of guys (in fact almost all of the population of the US) that is worse than Bobby Hart. That doesn't mean that Hart is good. Hopefully, this guy is better than Hart. If he is that in of itself is an inditement of the coaching staff for having him on the bench last week. I doubt that he improved that much this week.
RE: Can’t be worse than Hart  
est1986 : 11/18/2017 10:14 am : link
In comment 13695602 jeff57 said:
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agreed.
RE: Good move  
micky : 11/18/2017 10:14 am : link
In comment 13695584 g-baby said:
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See what the kid has got. Cannot be worse than Hart.



famous last words.......
RE: Guess that  
SHO'NUFF : 11/18/2017 10:24 am : link
In comment 13695589 joeinpa said:
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Answers the question I posted yesterday. Wouldn t it be great if he played well and begin to look like a guy they could count on going forward.

Finding a tackle that can play would make this awful season a bit better


Wouldn't it be great if he played well, so we can wonder why he wasn't inserted sooner?
If one good development could come from the rest of the season  
Breeze_94 : 11/18/2017 10:32 am : link
I hope it is this kid being a stud at OT
I hope for Eli's sake,  
Doomster : 11/18/2017 10:41 am : link
he can handle a stunt....

Let's face it, it's an act of desperation, not evaluation....

Undrafted player, whose only experience was against 2nd/3rd rounders in preseason.....he will be welcomed to the NFL....

Whether he plays well or not, one game is not going to decide it....chances are he plays the rest of the season, unless he is injured.....the rest of the season will be a good test for him......but I will be surprised if he is starter material...
We are due for something good to happen this year  
Jimmy Googs : 11/18/2017 10:44 am : link
maybe the kid will show some gameday talent and win a job on this line.

Its not like there won't be open spots come next season...
I am very excited to see how Wheeler does  
Jay on the Island : 11/18/2017 11:01 am : link
While he is a better fit on the left side if he plays well enough that could give the new coaching staff options to switch him and Flowers next season. I have been a big fan of Wheeler's since his signing and he has stayed out of trouble, remained healthy, and worked hard for this opportunity. Let's hope that he thrives.
It will be great to see what he can do  
mdthedream : 11/18/2017 11:24 am : link
but the KC have some really good DE that can get to the QB.
Flowers has improved.  
81_Great_Dane : 11/18/2017 12:58 pm : link
If Wheeler pans out then at least they'll have a pair of tackles, regardless of which side each plays on.
It's possible that the Giants good have  
allstarjim : 11/18/2017 1:01 pm : link
Way better than average book end tackles in Flowers and Wheeler in the near future. That's something that some may still laugh at, but Flowers is already doing it on the left side now, just a late bloomer. If Wheeler can perform well it will be a very good situation having those positions solved for a couple of years at least.
RE: If Wheeler develops  
old man : 11/18/2017 2:04 pm : link
In comment 13695598 WillVAB said:
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It will make the OL rebuild a hell of a lot easier.


True. And regardless or what position each plays next year, signing a veteran G, drafting a G or C in rd 2+ may make it easier to go QB in the first round. AND, have 3-4/5 of a young OL for '19/20>.
If CW has the feet for LT, he may readily have them for RT.
I think the Jury is still out on  
Bluesbreaker : 11/18/2017 2:34 pm : link
Flowers but I am happy that he has improved the poor kid was
getting bashed on a weekly basis it would be a huge plus if
he started playing at a pro bowl level or at least a solid
fixture there . Its good Wheeler get some playing time and see if he can develop so many question marks heading into
next season especially with at least four contracts to decide on .
you need more than one guy who can play LT  
Vanzetti : 11/18/2017 2:42 pm : link
I doubt Wheeler will be able to beat Flowers out next year but two guys competing for the same spot is a good problem to have
Wheeler looked good  
section125 : 11/18/2017 3:27 pm : link
in limited time early. Can't do worse than the way Hart has been with the ankle and with speed rushers.

I think he will do well.
I would not move  
mrvax : 11/18/2017 3:54 pm : link
Flowers. The massive, tough young man will only get better with time.

RE: I would not move  
Jay on the Island : 11/18/2017 6:26 pm : link
In comment 13695887 mrvax said:
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Flowers. The massive, tough young man will only get better with time.

Flowers would thrive at RT. He could become an all-pro on the right side. Wheeler is much better on the left side IF he can earn a starting spot. If he does that would be a huge development. Regardless of whether or not Pugh is re-signed the Giants need to add at least one starting caliber guard this offseason and a center to compete with Jones. Ideally they will add a mid range FA guard and draft another in round 2 like Price would can also play center.
Wheeler is looking very good for his first start  
Jay on the Island : 11/19/2017 3:24 pm : link
He is a big upgrade over Hart. He does a great job of keeping his feet moving in the run game.
Nice job by the kid stepping up at RT  
Jimmy Googs : 11/20/2017 7:26 am : link
Now go gain some weight in the offseason and we will find you a home on the Oline next year...
OL had a different feel to it yesterday  
JonC : 11/20/2017 8:09 am : link
Funny thing is Wheeler is their most natural LT on the roster.
RE: OL had a different feel to it yesterday  
crick n NC : 11/20/2017 8:31 am : link
In comment 13698697 JonC said:
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Funny thing is Wheeler is their most natural LT on the roster.


Glad to see Jonc giving his educated opinion, when it comes to X's & O's, and player evaluation he's the go-to guy. I can't be the only one on this forum that 'stalks' jonc's posts on these types of topics
That was very encouraging watching Wheeler  
Beezer : 11/20/2017 8:57 am : link
yesterday. Agree with Jon ... there was a different feel. They didn't get a push every time, but they did enough.

How many times was Eli hit? Maybe only the one "good" hit, but wasn't that on a stunt? And he had a long time on that one, as well, iirc.

Positives there, to be sure.
RE: RE: OL had a different feel to it yesterday  
Kyle in NY : 11/20/2017 8:59 am : link
In comment 13698709 crick n NC said:
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Funny thing is Wheeler is their most natural LT on the roster.



Glad to see Jonc giving his educated opinion, when it comes to X's & O's, and player evaluation he's the go-to guy. I can't be the only one on this forum that 'stalks' jonc's posts on these types of topics


wtf?? Jon is a good poster, but this is just strange
RE: RE: RE: OL had a different feel to it yesterday  
crick n NC : 11/20/2017 1:52 pm : link
In comment 13698757 Kyle in NY said:
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Funny thing is Wheeler is their most natural LT on the roster.



Glad to see Jonc giving his educated opinion, when it comes to X's & O's, and player evaluation he's the go-to guy. I can't be the only one on this forum that 'stalks' jonc's posts on these types of topics



wtf?? Jon is a good poster, but this is just strange


I'd say your response is strange, Jon is one of the best contributers here.
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