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College GameDay (Darnold vs. Rosen at 8PM)

Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/18/2017 9:45 am
Sadly, the most important game for Giants fans to watch this weekend is at 8PM tonight when Sam Darnold and Josh Rosen take the field in the same game.
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If we're looking for a coach  
gtt350 : 11/18/2017 3:36 pm : link
what about Paul Chryst?
As a Badger alum, I hope he stays in Madison for a long time  
Jim in Forest Hills : 11/18/2017 3:54 pm : link
He's from there, played there. Wisco has had a bit of coaching turnover losing Bielema and Anderson along with Aranda and Wilcox. They pull the most out of 3 star recruits than anybody.
Funny  
Jon in NYC : 11/18/2017 4:11 pm : link
that the Michigan contingent is once again quiet. Bunch of fair weather fans.

The better team won today. Really excited about this Badger team. One of the best things too is that they're young.

I would feel a lot better about this team is Hornibrook wasn't so inconsistent. He makes some NFL caliber throws but throws far too many picks for someone who throws the ball 15-20 times per game.
Just a word to the wise about making too much...  
M.S. : 11/18/2017 4:24 pm : link
...out of tonight's Darnold/Rosen match-up.

On November 25, 1995, Michigan faced Ohio State with the marque match-up of Michigan's Tim Biakabutuka, versus Ohio State's Eddie George.

Because of Biakabutuka's 313 on 37 carries in a 31–23 victory over previously-unbeaten Ohio State, the Michigan star running back got the nod over Eddie George in the 1996 NFL Draft being selected #8 by Carolina. Eddie George went six picks later to the Houston Oilers at #14.

The rest is history. Tiakabutuka rushed for 2,530 years over a 5-year injury plagued career.

As for Eddie George... 8 years straight in which he never missed a game. Final career totals include 10,441 rushing yards, 268 receptions, 2,227 receiving yards, and 78 touchdowns (68 rushing and ten receiving).
M.S.  
Marty866b : 11/18/2017 4:27 pm : link
Great point. This is also just one game. It is a very small sample size.
Barkley opens the scoring with a 65 yard run against Nebraska  
PatersonPlank : 11/18/2017 4:33 pm : link
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RE: Just a word to the wise about making too much...  
GiantTuff1 : 11/18/2017 4:36 pm : link
In comment 13695908 M.S. said:
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...out of tonight's Darnold/Rosen match-up.

On November 25, 1995, Michigan faced Ohio State with the marque match-up of Michigan's Tim Biakabutuka, versus Ohio State's Eddie George.

Because of Biakabutuka's 313 on 37 carries in a 31–23 victory over previously-unbeaten Ohio State, the Michigan star running back got the nod over Eddie George in the 1996 NFL Draft being selected #8 by Carolina. Eddie George went six picks later to the Houston Oilers at #14.

The rest is history. Tiakabutuka rushed for 2,530 years over a 5-year injury plagued career.

As for Eddie George... 8 years straight in which he never missed a game. Final career totals include 10,441 rushing yards, 268 receptions, 2,227 receiving yards, and 78 touchdowns (68 rushing and ten receiving).


Always be cautionary with that..

I think when players are evenly matched, even if one is a little more polished looking, the key is to look at intangibles.

Accorsi would say Eli had some sort of magic, an ability to will his team from behind when he watched him... That's the sort of edge i'm looking for as it reveals character.
Can people stop  
redwhiteandbigblue : 11/18/2017 4:43 pm : link
with the INT issues with Darnold. The FACTS are that Darnold has almost the identical number of passing attempts as Rosen. Rosen has 21 TD passes and 9 INT's and Darnold has 24 TD's and 11 INT's. Darnold has a 148 rating and Rosen a 143. Basically equal. You can throw in that UCLA' has an inferior team BUT you can also make the case that USC has played MUCH tougher opponents. To me, Darnold has a strong arm and excellent footwork in and out of the pocket. He also has incredible poise for such a young guy. Reminds me personality and poise wise alot like Eli. I would be happy with either although I do worry a little about Rosen's personality fitting in the NFL and in NY. I would take either one but for my money, I prefer Darnold. Looking forward to tonight's game!
ND struggling with Navy in the 1st half  
dpinzow : 11/18/2017 4:56 pm : link
but they get a drive going at the end of the 1st half to tie it at 10 (Wimbush TD)
Barkley 7 carries 111 yards, 2 TDs - In the 1st Quarter  
PatersonPlank : 11/18/2017 4:58 pm : link
I'd love him on the Giants
KState is finishing off OK State's chances  
jeff57 : 11/18/2017 5:15 pm : link
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RE: Are there no concerns with Darnold's turnovers?  
Boy Cord : 11/18/2017 5:17 pm : link
In comment 13695660 BestFeature said:
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Dan Marino threw five picks vs. Tennessee his senior year and was an interception machine throughout his career. Darnold is 20. Not the least bit worried about his turnovers.
Kansas trying to bully Baker Mayfield today  
nyjuggernaut2 : 11/18/2017 5:19 pm : link
Hitting him late, didn't shake his hand during coin toss, constantly in his after plays trash talking. Impressed by his composure fighting through it.
RE: Barkley 7 carries 111 yards, 2 TDs - In the 1st Quarter  
nyjuggernaut2 : 11/18/2017 5:22 pm : link
In comment 13695936 PatersonPlank said:
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I'd love him on the Giants


I'd love to see Giants grab Barkley in 1st and Mayfield in the 2nd. Similar to when SD drafted Tomlinson and Brees.
How far has Nebraska fallen  
dpinzow : 11/18/2017 5:23 pm : link
I remember when they were the best team in the country (1995) and perennial national championship contenders all the way to 2001...

Now they can't recruit
Are constantly switching coaches
Have no natural rivals (Oklahoma, Texas and Colorado aren't in the B1G)
RE: ND struggling with Navy in the 1st half  
section125 : 11/18/2017 5:26 pm : link
In comment 13695934 dpinzow said:
[quote] but they get a drive going at the end of the 1st half to tie it at 10 (Wimbush TD) [/quote

ND with horrendous tackling against the option. Navy's runners cannot be that strong that ND cannot tackle them.
Back to Nebraska for a second  
dpinzow : 11/18/2017 5:27 pm : link
I have to think they give Scott Frost whatever he wants to come back to Lincoln. Frost was the last Nebraska QB to lead them to a national title (1997 shared title with Michigan)
In the 1990s, Nebraska, FSU, Florida and Tennessee  
dpinzow : 11/18/2017 5:35 pm : link
won 7 of the decade's 10 national championships. Now, all of them will either replace their coaches (Tennessee, Florida, almost certainly Nebraska) or see their coaches on a very warm seat (FSU)
RE: In the 1990s, Nebraska, FSU, Florida and Tennessee  
section125 : 11/18/2017 5:40 pm : link
In comment 13695961 dpinzow said:
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won 7 of the decade's 10 national championships. Now, all of them will either replace their coaches (Tennessee, Florida, almost certainly Nebraska) or see their coaches on a very warm seat (FSU)


Doubt Jimbo Fisher is on the warm/hot seat....lose your sophomore on the 1st week and then start a true frosh QB the rest of the year. It ain't pretty, but they'll be pretty good next year. Lots of youngsters on that team.
RE: RE: In the 1990s, Nebraska, FSU, Florida and Tennessee  
dpinzow : 11/18/2017 5:43 pm : link
In comment 13695965 section125 said:
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In comment 13695961 dpinzow said:


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won 7 of the decade's 10 national championships. Now, all of them will either replace their coaches (Tennessee, Florida, almost certainly Nebraska) or see their coaches on a very warm seat (FSU)



Doubt Jimbo Fisher is on the warm/hot seat....lose your sophomore on the 1st week and then start a true frosh QB the rest of the year. It ain't pretty, but they'll be pretty good next year. Lots of youngsters on that team.


Jimbo better beat Miami and put up at least 9-10 wins or he's in trouble. The national championship he won with Jameis gives him a reprieve this year but FSU will make a change if they think Miami will overrun them in Florida recruiting and start dominating the state
And FSU's schedule is hard as hell next year  
dpinzow : 11/18/2017 5:51 pm : link
Clemson
@ Miami
@ ND
@ Louisville
@ NC State
Virginia Tech
Mayfield  
WillVAB : 11/18/2017 6:05 pm : link
The announcers were glowing about Matfield after his last TD pass. They pan to him on the sideline and he’s grabbing his crotch saying “fuck you” multiple times to the Kansas sideline.
Immature but.......  
Sammo85 : 11/18/2017 6:07 pm : link
Kansas has been cheapshotting him and being unsportsmanlike all day including with the coin toss nonsense they pulled.
ND finally goes ahead of Navy  
dpinzow : 11/18/2017 6:07 pm : link
24-17. Scored a TD after Navy missed a FG
Mayfield...  
Sy'56 : 11/18/2017 6:12 pm : link
another check
RE: Mayfield...  
WillVAB : 11/18/2017 6:21 pm : link
In comment 13695985 Sy'56 said:
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another check


A little hypocritical of you being so pro Mayfield and anti Beckham.
RE: RE: Mayfield...  
B in ALB : 11/18/2017 6:30 pm : link
In comment 13695989 WillVAB said:
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In comment 13695985 Sy'56 said:


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another check



A little hypocritical of you being so pro Mayfield and anti Beckham.


Never saw Beckham grab his crotch and scream FU over and over on the sidelines.

Hypocritical indeed.
Yeah I'm noticing that trend on BBI, too.  
bceagle05 : 11/18/2017 6:34 pm : link
Let's embrace all assholes.
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Danny Kanell : 11/18/2017 6:48 pm : link
I’ve seen all I need to see out of Mayfield tonight to confirm that he won’t be on the Giants board. What a douche.
OK State trying to make an epic comeback  
jeff57 : 11/18/2017 6:54 pm : link
Down 42-13', now 42-40
RE: Mayfield  
jeff57 : 11/18/2017 6:56 pm : link
In comment 13695980 WillVAB said:
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The announcers were glowing about Matfield after his last TD pass. They pan to him on the sideline and he’s grabbing his crotch saying “fuck you” multiple times to the Kansas sideline.


Like to see him plant the flag while grabbing his crotch.
USC cheerleaders  
B in ALB : 11/18/2017 8:15 pm : link
My god.
I WANT  
adambear : 11/18/2017 8:24 pm : link
THE CHOSEN ONE
It won't count  
dpinzow : 11/18/2017 8:25 pm : link
but that deep throw by Rosen was sick. Perfect spiral right in the receiver's lap
RE: It won't count  
jeff57 : 11/18/2017 8:25 pm : link
In comment 13696051 dpinzow said:
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but that deep throw by Rosen was sick. Perfect spiral right in the receiver's lap


Yeah, was nice.
WHat channel  
cokeduplt : 11/18/2017 8:27 pm : link
Is the game on?
I love when the  
adambear : 11/18/2017 8:27 pm : link
punter switcheroo works
RE: WHat channel  
dpinzow : 11/18/2017 8:28 pm : link
In comment 13696054 cokeduplt said:
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Is the game on?


ABC
Terrible job  
Sammo85 : 11/18/2017 8:29 pm : link
By the UCLA punter. Punted opposite field of the designed coverage.
RE: I love when the  
BigBlueinChicago : 11/18/2017 8:29 pm : link
In comment 13696055 adambear said:
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punter switcheroo works


Chiefs will probably use that one tomorrow and it will go for a TD.
Keep in mind it'll be more difficult to evaluate Rosen  
dpinzow : 11/18/2017 8:29 pm : link
since his team is a lot worse than Darnold's
RE: Terrible job  
Sammo85 : 11/18/2017 8:30 pm : link
In comment 13696057 Sammo85 said:
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By the UCLA punter. Punted opposite field of the designed coverage.


Unless they were trying to take or outsmart USC.
That was beyond bizarre  
BigBlue4You09 : 11/18/2017 8:30 pm : link
How did that guy know to sprint back and field that kick!?
I really want to root  
adambear : 11/18/2017 8:33 pm : link
for a Jewish NYG QB. I'm way too biased to fairly evaluate this game
Rosen throws a sick deep ball  
dpinzow : 11/18/2017 8:33 pm : link
Some QBs in the NFL right now can't do that
Laid that one right in  
jeff57 : 11/18/2017 8:33 pm : link
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Rosen  
Sammo85 : 11/18/2017 8:33 pm : link
Looks the part.

The accuracy he has downfield is sick.
What I'm syaing is  
adambear : 11/18/2017 8:33 pm : link
Rosen is incredible
Rosen  
WillVAB : 11/18/2017 8:33 pm : link
Has a great deep ball.
RE: Keep in mind it'll be more difficult to evaluate Rosen  
AnishPatel : 11/18/2017 8:33 pm : link
In comment 13696060 dpinzow said:
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since his team is a lot worse than Darnold's


No, you see if he can elevate the players around him, such as Eli did for Ole Miss. Also, you are scouting to see footwork, arm strength, and if the scouts have access to his practice and then watch him live during the game. You want to see if he can make the throws needed at the NFL level.
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