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NFT: Lonzo Ball about walking away from Suns scuffle

larryflower37 : 11/18/2017 6:49 pm
I haven't seen it mention.
Is it a non-issue?

IMO it's a punk move and you need to stand up for your teammates and show a little toughness.

The pressure is getting to him.
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I don’t think it’s the big issue.  
Beezer : 11/18/2017 7:00 pm : link
But from a Knicks fan perspective, it just endears Frank to me even more in contrast.
Ball is a complete disaster  
BigBlue4You09 : 11/18/2017 7:18 pm : link
An awful basketball player and a pussy of a teammate
seeing  
MookGiants : 11/18/2017 7:20 pm : link
the way he quit on his team in the UCLA-Kentucky game in the tournament told me all I needed to know. Played like dogshit, looked like he wasnt even trying, and then in the post game locker room all he wanted to talk about was the NBA.

Fuck him.
That’s a weak look from him  
bubba0825 : 11/18/2017 7:21 pm : link
I’m not saying he needs to run in like Kermit Washington but make a concerted effort to appear uninterested is a massive red flag and I would be annoyed if I was his teammate
His Dad really screwed him over when it comes to  
slickwilly : 11/18/2017 7:25 pm : link
the NBA. I can't respect any player that would just walk away from his teammates like that. Then it gets magnified because his Dad is an ahole. Kid is in a tough spot, but he is not helping himself with that weak ass move right there.
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Danny Kanell : 11/18/2017 7:27 pm : link
That right there...is not a good optic.
RE: That’s a weak look from him  
81_Great_Dane : 11/18/2017 7:29 pm : link
In comment 13696018 bubba0825 said:
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I’m not saying he needs to run in like Kermit Washington but make a concerted effort to appear uninterested is a massive red flag and I would be annoyed if I was his teammate
Yeah, one way or another, you gotta stand with your teammates. You don't have to dive into the fight, but you can't do that glance over the shoulder and ignore it thing, either.
not surprising  
nygiants16 : 11/18/2017 7:46 pm : link
wanted nothing to do with him in the draft, over hyped and only gives a shit about himself...can not win with a player like that
Trying to give him a fair shake.  
Beezer : 11/18/2017 8:05 pm : link
Thinking maybe he’s trying to play the “mature” card, thinking that’s the correct play there. But yeah, as others have said, not a good look.

Again, Frank shines in contrast, in this category. In action, and in follow-up. And the vets saw it, love it, and have his back 100 percent.

Makes me very happy to see the change of ride in The Garden.
I'm not usually a #narrative guy  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/18/2017 8:05 pm : link
But Ball seems super passive, like Eli Manning levels of emotionless.
Kuzma is going to save that draft for  
Toastt34 : 11/18/2017 8:48 pm : link
The Lakers.
Where's Stan?  
BigBlueShock : 11/18/2017 8:49 pm : link
This continuous waiting for Ball to have another decent game so he can come back has got to be driving him insane
I do wonder about the theory  
moespree : 11/18/2017 8:55 pm : link
That he was never really interested in the sport and was forced into it as a kid by his father. Wasn't this idea first floated by some unnamed scout during the draft? While sadly this does happen to some kids, he is an adult now so I don't know how much to put into that idea. But I do remember reading it.
Lakers aren't making it easy on Lebron to go there.  
bceagle05 : 11/18/2017 9:02 pm : link
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RE: I do wonder about the theory  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/18/2017 9:25 pm : link
In comment 13696127 moespree said:
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That he was never really interested in the sport and was forced into it as a kid by his father. Wasn't this idea first floated by some unnamed scout during the draft? While sadly this does happen to some kids, he is an adult now so I don't know how much to put into that idea. But I do remember reading it.


I don't really think he is an adult. He certainly doesn't have a grown man's body type. Wasn't he a one and done player? He's essentially a high school kid, and kids that come up thru the US system aren't always prepared for their rookie season. Russell definitely wasn't either.
Well he is 20  
moespree : 11/18/2017 9:39 pm : link
I meant an adult in terms of legal age. But you're right in terms of maturity level he seems behind his age.
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christian : 11/18/2017 10:34 pm : link
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This is a bit overblown  
dpinzow : 11/18/2017 10:39 pm : link
Lonzo was right not to get into the fight...however he should have stood with his teammates instead of letting them hang out there. That's the problem
He's got.bigger problems  
KWALL2 : 11/18/2017 10:43 pm : link
Then walking away from a scuffle.

The real problem?

He sucks ass.
RE: He's got.bigger problems  
B in ALB : 11/18/2017 10:49 pm : link
In comment 13696340 KWALL2 said:
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Then walking away from a scuffle.

The real problem?

He sucks ass.


This.
What an asshole  
Vanzetti : 11/19/2017 12:45 am : link
The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree
And this is where his  
SimpleMan : 11/19/2017 1:52 am : link
Soccer-mom-on-steroids overbearing attention whoring father comes into play. He's a struggling rookie, but his struggles are amplified since his jackass Dad has thrust him into the spotlight and Daddy is living vicariously through son. Not to mention, everyone is rooting against him simply because of his father. I know I am.
My interpretation is that...  
Milton : 11/19/2017 2:37 am : link
...he was aware of the two bumping each other and squaring off but didn't think it would amount to anything more than that so he just continued moving along rather than add to the confrontation. And for the most part he was right....
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Devil's advocate here  
Matt M. : 11/19/2017 7:24 am : link
If he hadn't walked away and instead inserted himself in the confrontation, wouldn't most of you have called him a punk for getting involved?
RE: Devil's advocate here  
nygiants16 : 11/19/2017 8:44 am : link
In comment 13696430 Matt M. said:
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If he hadn't walked away and instead inserted himself in the confrontation, wouldn't most of you have called him a punk for getting involved?


no not if he is protecting his teammates and no one said go int here and sucker punch somebody, walk in and try to break it up grab a couple of teammates and get them out of there...

he literally walked away and it baaically says not my problem...

now if he gets into an altercation do you think his teammates are going to come running in or walk away?
RE: Devil's advocate here  
BigBlueShock : 11/19/2017 8:45 am : link
In comment 13696430 Matt M. said:
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If he hadn't walked away and instead inserted himself in the confrontation, wouldn't most of you have called him a punk for getting involved?

That’s a bit of a stretch, no? A bit of context would be needed in that scenario. If he was simply in the scrum getting guys back or something why would peoples call him a punk? If he flew into the scrum throwing hay makers and cheap shooting people, that’s a punk.

There doesn’t ALWAYS have to be a devils advocate. Especially if it involves unprovable assumptions.
RE: I do wonder about the theory  
Bill in Del : 11/19/2017 9:19 am : link
In comment 13696127 moespree said:
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That he was never really interested in the sport and was forced into it as a kid by his father. Wasn't this idea first floated by some unnamed scout during the draft? While sadly this does happen to some kids, he is an adult now so I don't know how much to put into that idea. But I do remember reading it.


I subscribe to this theory as well. His father being the control freak douche that he is, is probably still pulling his kids strings to the point of even "managing his finances" especially now that he's making NBA money. This kid needs to cut the ties and follow his own dream.
His Dad..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/19/2017 9:49 am : link
is a hell of a promo machine, but basically a shitty human being and father. The male Kris Khardashian.

And in a few years, that's going to be where the Balls will be - a reality TV family.

If Lonzo didn't have Don King Jr. as a Dad, he'd probably have been drafted in the mid-1st round. The questions people had about him are coming true, and unfortunately, a lot of those questions were about toughness, dedication and loyalty.
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arcarsenal : 11/19/2017 12:00 pm : link
He's awful.

I barely watch college hoops these days, so I hadn't seen much of him @ UCLA. Watching him in the pros this year, I've been shocked to see how ugly his game is. I don't understand what the hype was all about. Kid looks like complete trash.
RE: His Dad..  
Sarcastic Sam : 11/19/2017 12:07 pm : link
In comment 13696526 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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is a hell of a promo machine, but basically a shitty human being and father. The male Kris Khardashian.

And in a few years, that's going to be where the Balls will be - a reality TV family.

If Lonzo didn't have Don King Jr. as a Dad, he'd probably have been drafted in the mid-1st round. The questions people had about him are coming true, and unfortunately, a lot of those questions were about toughness, dedication and loyalty.


Aren't they already a reality TV family?

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