If we can win some games and Flowers, Wheeler, and some other young guys get confidence, then it will really help us next season. The young guys we have improving and getting confidence helps us more than getting a draft choice 5 spots higher (for example).
It rarely works like that. How did the wins at the end of 2013 help us in 2014? How did the wins at the end of 2014 help us in 2015? And falling apart at the end of 2015 certainly didn’t hurt us in 2016. Each season is unique, impossible to expect carry over with all the roster turnover and regime changes upcoming
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2 wins hardly takes them out of draft position to get a quarterback if they want one.
Secondly, as bad a job as this coaching staff has done this season, in particular MacAdoo. If you aren't willing to give him credit for a win no one thought they had a chance of achieving, then you are not being fair.
For this team to come from the tumult and poor performances of the past two weeks, and play spirited as they did today, the Coach gets the credit, like him or not.
And yes, 6 more efforts like this, with a win against say the Cowboys and the Eagles,, and the Redskins, he might get to stay.
anyone who thought that is an idiot. This will likely be 4-12 / 5-11. Remember. We picked 4th in 2004.
Wait, you watched the team play on the field recently and then added in all of the injuries and thought there was no way they were going 1-15?
They got destroyed by probably the worst team in all of football last week.
Anyone who thins this team is going 4-12 or 4-12 is more of an idiot than someone who thought they would go 1-15.
This team sucks balls, today doesn't change it at all. The ineptitude of the chiefs today coming in here like it was a scrimmage is the only reason the Giants had a chance, that and the wind
anyone who thought that is an idiot. This will likely be 4-12 / 5-11. Remember. We picked 4th in 2004.
Wait, you watched the team play on the field recently and then added in all of the injuries and thought there was no way they were going 1-15?
They got destroyed by probably the worst team in all of football last week.
Anyone who thins this team is going 4-12 or 4-12 is more of an idiot than someone who thought they would go 1-15.
This team sucks balls, today doesn't change it at all. The ineptitude of the chiefs today coming in here like it was a scrimmage is the only reason the Giants had a chance, that and the wind
Geez Mook, it was effort that cost games and bad coaching. 4-12 is not crazy any more than 1-15 would be. Personally, 4 wins is likely max because I doubt they play this hard again. But if they do they have a chance to win 2 more.
2-14 and win against a collapsing Chiefs team isn't saving anyone's job.
Giants aren't likely to lose more than the 9ers or Browns without a major absolutely quitting on the field. They are talented enough to win games against average teams.
If there is a QB the new GM desires he'll move it up and get him if necessary.
anyone who thought that is an idiot. This will likely be 4-12 / 5-11. Remember. We picked 4th in 2004.
Wait, you watched the team play on the field recently and then added in all of the injuries and thought there was no way they were going 1-15?
They got destroyed by probably the worst team in all of football last week.
Anyone who thins this team is going 4-12 or 4-12 is more of an idiot than someone who thought they would go 1-15.
This team sucks balls, today doesn't change it at all. The ineptitude of the chiefs today coming in here like it was a scrimmage is the only reason the Giants had a chance, that and the wind
Why, because they finally won another game?
I am still hoping for a top 3 pick myself.
Glad they at least played with effort today.
That's why they are the Chefs, just when some people
want to buy into them, they become the Chefs.
That team started out 5-0, LOL.
If I was the Chefs, I would move on from Alex Smith,
he is a FA, they drafted a kid, move on.
and Giants came to play. Nice effort today. Win is always nice.
Game doesn’t go to OT if he makes the PAT. He didn’t redeem shit.
He got experience dealing with the winds at the Meadowlands
in November, not surprising. That was like a bad pitching wedge in golf. Live and learn they say.
Flowers has been playing at an Elite level for several weeks
Don't know about an elite level (still takes a few holding penalties to avoid sacks) but he has played a lot better and is at worst a passable left tackle now
anyone who thought that is an idiot. This will likely be 4-12 / 5-11. Remember. We picked 4th in 2004.
Wait, you watched the team play on the field recently and then added in all of the injuries and thought there was no way they were going 1-15?
They got destroyed by probably the worst team in all of football last week.
Anyone who thins this team is going 4-12 or 4-12 is more of an idiot than someone who thought they would go 1-15.
This team sucks balls, today doesn't change it at all. The ineptitude of the chiefs today coming in here like it was a scrimmage is the only reason the Giants had a chance, that and the wind
It is totally reasonable to think they could win a game against the Redskins & Cardinals.
in the run game. I think Richburg has played his last snap with the Giants.
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I wouldn't mind if they move on from Richburg, Jones is a RFA.
The young man Wheeler, held his own today.
Flowers has made some progress, slower than we would like,
but some progress...
Gotta be real proud the way the Giants played today... Â
you play to win. You coach to win. They played hard and with pride. I'll take it. Any chance McAdoo made the FG decision at end to give his rookie kicker a chance to win the game and build some confidence? Also nice to see Alex Smith morph back into Alex Smith.
I felt Lewis did not have possession when he was touched...
Also disagree on the PI against Engram.....while he did extend his hand, it was not a push off of the defender....it looked that way because he was breaking to the sideline while the defender went straight....
It's a small point but if Roasa made the extra point Â
The Chiefs likely don't kick their 3rd FG but go for it on 4h down. Maybe we hold and win in regulation but maybe they make it and score TD and we lose.
That's what I've been saying. This was not the year to be angling cor a QB and I wouldn't draft one just because we have a high pick. Top 5 pick doesn't automatically equal franchise AN.
That said, they are still fairly likely to be in position for 1 and maybe 2 of the top 3, plus Mayfield for sure. This will be interesting.
And I will say this...i don't care if they win every single remaining game. I still want the GM, HC, entire coaching staff, and a good portion of the scouting dept. gone.
that Rosas' missed PAT may actually be the reason we won? Had they been up 10-6 and a FG was no longer an option for the Chiefs, I keep getting this feeling they would have scored the TD. That said, of course, another missed kick by Rosas is a cause of concern.
He is a rookie, so some patience must be used. I wouldn't cut him now, as some people have been calling for, especially with the season already lost. But, I would, at the very least, have another PK in for competition in the off season.
Here's to hoping Wheeler plays the rest of the season Â
and progresses. With Flowers playing better each week, we may have bookend OTs for the next few years. They may not be the best, but if it is even a decent pair, they have more flexibility with the rest of the OL.
and possibly cost his team the game. A position player already threw one INT today and the wind was a problem. So, calling for a trick play with Kelce throwing deep may not have been the best decision.
that Rosas' missed PAT may actually be the reason we won? Had they been up 10-6 and a FG was no longer an option for the Chiefs, I keep getting this feeling they would have scored the TD. That said, of course, another missed kick by Rosas is a cause of concern.
He is a rookie, so some patience must be used. I wouldn't cut him now, as some people have been calling for, especially with the season already lost. But, I would, at the very least, have another PK in for competition in the off season.
The wind killed that PAT. I don't know if he got under it, but man that thing just died. Like hitting a 180 yard club on a 130 yard hole and it ends up short...
That was a grewat play on 4th and 6. And all day, he stood tall in the pocket and avoided the rush when it was there, including a nice run for a 1st down.
and possibly cost his team the game. A position player already threw one INT today and the wind was a problem. So, calling for a trick play with Kelce throwing deep may not have been the best decision.
This was the worst coached game I've ever seen from an Andy Reid team.
It rarely works like that. How did the wins at the end of 2013 help us in 2014? How did the wins at the end of 2014 help us in 2015? And falling apart at the end of 2015 certainly didn’t hurt us in 2016. Each season is unique, impossible to expect carry over with all the roster turnover and regime changes upcoming
I thought so too, but he still had a finger on the biceps..
I think the argument is that he had secured the ball while still being contacted by the defender.
Hard to get excited about any of it. If this game saves anyones job or costs us a top QB that will be disgusting
someone gets it
Save it for the 17th.
Secondly, as bad a job as this coaching staff has done this season, in particular MacAdoo. If you aren't willing to give him credit for a win no one thought they had a chance of achieving, then you are not being fair.
For this team to come from the tumult and poor performances of the past two weeks, and play spirited as they did today, the Coach gets the credit, like him or not.
And yes, 6 more efforts like this, with a win against say the Cowboys and the Eagles,, and the Redskins, he might get to stay.
Wait, you watched the team play on the field recently and then added in all of the injuries and thought there was no way they were going 1-15?
They got destroyed by probably the worst team in all of football last week.
Anyone who thins this team is going 4-12 or 4-12 is more of an idiot than someone who thought they would go 1-15.
This team sucks balls, today doesn't change it at all. The ineptitude of the chiefs today coming in here like it was a scrimmage is the only reason the Giants had a chance, that and the wind
they could easily win next week too. WAS blew a huge lead in NO and they are quitting on there coach too and a short week we have the momentum.
We could easily end with 5 wins now and could cost us 5 or 6 spots in draft position.
would be catastrophic and set the franchise back even longer!
not on april 26th comes and you are mad we are picking an eli apple instead of jake conklin...
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anyone who thought that is an idiot. This will likely be 4-12 / 5-11. Remember. We picked 4th in 2004.
Wait, you watched the team play on the field recently and then added in all of the injuries and thought there was no way they were going 1-15?
They got destroyed by probably the worst team in all of football last week.
Anyone who thins this team is going 4-12 or 4-12 is more of an idiot than someone who thought they would go 1-15.
This team sucks balls, today doesn't change it at all. The ineptitude of the chiefs today coming in here like it was a scrimmage is the only reason the Giants had a chance, that and the wind
Geez Mook, it was effort that cost games and bad coaching. 4-12 is not crazy any more than 1-15 would be. Personally, 4 wins is likely max because I doubt they play this hard again. But if they do they have a chance to win 2 more.
Giants aren't likely to lose more than the 9ers or Browns without a major absolutely quitting on the field. They are talented enough to win games against average teams.
If there is a QB the new GM desires he'll move it up and get him if necessary.
you are right. I did not even notice that he was not there.
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anyone who thought that is an idiot. This will likely be 4-12 / 5-11. Remember. We picked 4th in 2004.
Wait, you watched the team play on the field recently and then added in all of the injuries and thought there was no way they were going 1-15?
They got destroyed by probably the worst team in all of football last week.
Anyone who thins this team is going 4-12 or 4-12 is more of an idiot than someone who thought they would go 1-15.
This team sucks balls, today doesn't change it at all. The ineptitude of the chiefs today coming in here like it was a scrimmage is the only reason the Giants had a chance, that and the wind
Yeah, this is true.
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you are right. I did not even notice that he was not there.
I did, around midway through the 3rd quarter when we weren't getting a PI called against us every defensive drive....
Why, because they finally won another game?
I am still hoping for a top 3 pick myself.
Glad they at least played with effort today.
That's why they are the Chefs, just when some people
want to buy into them, they become the Chefs.
That team started out 5-0, LOL.
If I was the Chefs, I would move on from Alex Smith,
he is a FA, they drafted a kid, move on.
SMH.
Good job Giants for hanging in there and getting the W.
Who care about a draft pick........all I know is we got the best player in franchise history drafting #2.
Glad to see Rosas experience a pressure kick in OT
Carry on
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and Giants came to play. Nice effort today. Win is always nice.
Game doesn’t go to OT if he makes the PAT. He didn’t redeem shit.
He got experience dealing with the winds at the Meadowlands
in November, not surprising. That was like a bad pitching wedge in golf. Live and learn they say.
Be glad for less expected pieces like King and the O tackle.
SMH.
Good job Giants for hanging in there and getting the W.
Who care about a draft pick........all I know is we got the best player in franchise history drafting #2.
I look at the big picture, not a little victory.
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Played really well.
Flowers has been playing at an Elite level for several weeks
Don't know about an elite level (still takes a few holding penalties to avoid sacks) but he has played a lot better and is at worst a passable left tackle now
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anyone who thought that is an idiot. This will likely be 4-12 / 5-11. Remember. We picked 4th in 2004.
Wait, you watched the team play on the field recently and then added in all of the injuries and thought there was no way they were going 1-15?
They got destroyed by probably the worst team in all of football last week.
Anyone who thins this team is going 4-12 or 4-12 is more of an idiot than someone who thought they would go 1-15.
This team sucks balls, today doesn't change it at all. The ineptitude of the chiefs today coming in here like it was a scrimmage is the only reason the Giants had a chance, that and the wind
It is totally reasonable to think they could win a game against the Redskins & Cardinals.
I wouldn't mind if they move on from Richburg, Jones is a RFA.
The young man Wheeler, held his own today.
Flowers has made some progress, slower than we would like,
but some progress...
...it wasn't pretty, but they played tough all day and deserved to win.
Here's three cheers for the men in Blue:
Hip Hip Hooray!
Hip Hip Hooray!!
Hip Hip Hooray!!!
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you are right. I did not even notice that he was not there.
I noticed he wasn’t there. Because I noticed not noticing a DB being way out of position during big plays.
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By the time he gained possession, he wasn't being touched and wasn't touched after that at all.
That was 100% a touchdown.
Just got done watching the replay...!00% correct that was a TD...I thought the refs sucked in this game.
Also disagree on the PI against Engram.....while he did extend his hand, it was not a push off of the defender....it looked that way because he was breaking to the sideline while the defender went straight....
That said, they are still fairly likely to be in position for 1 and maybe 2 of the top 3, plus Mayfield for sure. This will be interesting.
And I will say this...i don't care if they win every single remaining game. I still want the GM, HC, entire coaching staff, and a good portion of the scouting dept. gone.
He is a rookie, so some patience must be used. I wouldn't cut him now, as some people have been calling for, especially with the season already lost. But, I would, at the very least, have another PK in for competition in the off season.
He is a rookie, so some patience must be used. I wouldn't cut him now, as some people have been calling for, especially with the season already lost. But, I would, at the very least, have another PK in for competition in the off season.
The wind killed that PAT. I don't know if he got under it, but man that thing just died. Like hitting a 180 yard club on a 130 yard hole and it ends up short...
This was the worst coached game I've ever seen from an Andy Reid team.
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you are right. I did not even notice that he was not there.
I noticed. I didn’t see a baby on the sideline asking for his pacifier.