have lost 4 out of their last 5 games and looking to be trending downward. i maintain that alex smith is a phony QB, propped up by andy reid and his system.
have lost 4 out of their last 5 games and looking to be trending downward. i maintain that alex smith is a phony QB, propped up by andy reid and his system.
Eli would ve taken that team to the championship game.
And some of you are actually cursing the Giants out for winning too many games this year? Two!!! ??
They are gonna go 4-12 or so. That's a terrible win total. And some of you are gonna hang on every win and go nuts like the Giants just sabatoged their future with a negative performance. That's so unfair and this coming from someone who wants mcadoo fired and wants the first pick. We all do. But You guys don't get it. They can't NOT TRY! What the hell do you want?
If the Giants win 2-3-4 more games fucking deal with it. You can't lose on purpose and you can't not try or you will get your head taking off. Mcadoo and spags are coaching for their livelihoods. You wanna sulk fine but to actually blast the team is weak. And again, we're talking 2-8 here people not 4-6. This isnt dreaded middle ground territory here this is shit show territory. It's still a train wreck and probably stays that way.
As a team all areas did what was required to obtain a win. Now as a coach it’s hard not to shake your in disgust because if these guys want to perform they are very talented on defense. On offense the rhythm was good and I believe only one delay of game penalty. It’s not the coaches it’s these players who have to want to win on the field.
Changed my Sunday afternoon for the better. I agreed with the Lewis call. Good catch but no TD.
Me too. I thought it was quite obvious he was down by contact. They would have needed irrefutable evidence to rule it a TD. That evidence just wasn't there.
And some of you are actually cursing the Giants out for winning too many games this year? Two!!! ??
They are gonna go 4-12 or so. That's a terrible win total. And some of you are gonna hang on every win and go nuts like the Giants just sabatoged their future with a negative performance. That's so unfair and this coming from someone who wants mcadoo fired and wants the first pick. We all do. But You guys don't get it. They can't NOT TRY! What the hell do you want?
If the Giants win 2-3-4 more games fucking deal with it. You can't lose on purpose and you can't not try or you will get your head taking off. Mcadoo and spags are coaching for their livelihoods. You wanna sulk fine but to actually blast the team is weak. And again, we're talking 2-8 here people not 4-6. This isnt dreaded middle ground territory here this is shit show territory. It's still a train wreck and probably stays that way.
Overall, I agree. However, I'm not so sure about 4 wins. I'm assuming you think they'll beat Washington once and Dallas? Maybe, but there isn't a game on the schedule, with this team that I expect the Giants to win.
I'm with you,though,about the wins in general. It would be far worse to tank the season. More than any other sport, in football that gets people hurt. It doesn't really happen.
Plus, at this point forget the first lick. They've pretty much cemented that the best they can do is the 3rd pick, given the competition.
This team is still very bad. Giants got very lucky with the weather and the fact the Chiefs clearly didn’t come to play and take us seriously. Chiefs had no pass rushers in the game. No Hali or Bailey. Also had two other of their best defenders out.
They earned the win by simply coming to play. As I said I always love a win but let’s not pretend this changes anything about how ugly this team has been and behaved and the incompetence of the coaches.
I could see them giving a fight to the Cowboys in that game but there’s really no margin for error. Even the Raiders are a bad matchup problem for us even with their struggles. Even the last game of the year will be a needed game now for the Skins to have any playoff shot.
I think they win one more game, possibly either the Cowboys or Cards game.
* Flowers continues to improve
* just 1 game, but Wheeler was encouraging.
* Jones improving, and battles
so, OL MIGHT not be as bad as we think going forward and letting both Richburg and Pugh go is plausible.
on the other hand:
* JPP sucks and is showing why paying him was a mistake and as Eric put it, he is a "coach killer".
* McAdoo still sucks, as does this offensive scheme.
* where were the trick plays, the calling out individuals for poor play, the despertation in Week 3 when it still mattered?
* the roster is still bereft of any talent at LB, DE (maybe Vernon excepted) RB. Gallman may be something, need to see more. Need more CB and S as well.
Though I can't "root to lose", I think the worst thing that can happen is that they finish strongly enough that Reese survives and McAdoo and staff aren't canned.
And some of you are actually cursing the Giants out for winning too many games this year? Two!!! ??
They are gonna go 4-12 or so. That's a terrible win total. And some of you are gonna hang on every win and go nuts like the Giants just sabatoged their future with a negative performance. That's so unfair and this coming from someone who wants mcadoo fired and wants the first pick. We all do. But You guys don't get it. They can't NOT TRY! What the hell do you want?
If the Giants win 2-3-4 more games fucking deal with it. You can't lose on purpose and you can't not try or you will get your head taking off. Mcadoo and spags are coaching for their livelihoods. You wanna sulk fine but to actually blast the team is weak. And again, we're talking 2-8 here people not 4-6. This isnt dreaded middle ground territory here this is shit show territory. It's still a train wreck and probably stays that way.
Overall, I agree. However, I'm not so sure about 4 wins. I'm assuming you think they'll beat Washington once and Dallas? Maybe, but there isn't a game on the schedule, with this team that I expect the Giants to win.
I'm with you,though,about the wins in general. It would be far worse to tank the season. More than any other sport, in football that gets people hurt. It doesn't really happen.
Plus, at this point forget the first lick. They've pretty much cemented that the best they can do is the 3rd pick, given the competition.
Yeah you're probably right but the Giants didn't look absolutely terrible yesterday and have no won two games out of the last five or so. With that in mind I could see them sneaking two more wins out of the remaining 6 but it's probably more likely they win one more.
Can we please beat Dallas and all but end their season? We aren't beating Philly...but Dallas has holes. It would be nice to see them come in to Jersey desperate for a win and have the Giants knock them out.
Gun to my head I'll say 4-12 but 3-13 is a good bet too. The Raiders aren't any good. Dallas as mentioned. Skins? I'd give them the edge in both games but they are flawed and just lost Thompson.
I've shifted my attention to Eli's well being and legacy. We're getting a good draft pick no matter what.
Glad to see Rosas experience a pressure kick in OT
Carry on
Okay you win this thread. Hats off.
that is really interesting i never knew that until today. i like folklore.
The next Tom Brady is out there. So is the next Ryan Leaf.
Eli would ve taken that team to the championship game.
They are gonna go 4-12 or so. That's a terrible win total. And some of you are gonna hang on every win and go nuts like the Giants just sabatoged their future with a negative performance. That's so unfair and this coming from someone who wants mcadoo fired and wants the first pick. We all do. But You guys don't get it. They can't NOT TRY! What the hell do you want?
If the Giants win 2-3-4 more games fucking deal with it. You can't lose on purpose and you can't not try or you will get your head taking off. Mcadoo and spags are coaching for their livelihoods. You wanna sulk fine but to actually blast the team is weak. And again, we're talking 2-8 here people not 4-6. This isnt dreaded middle ground territory here this is shit show territory. It's still a train wreck and probably stays that way.
Complain when they win because win totals
Complain complain complain.
They are gonna go 4-12 or so. That's a terrible win total. And some of you are gonna hang on every win and go nuts like the Giants just sabatoged their future with a negative performance. That's so unfair and this coming from someone who wants mcadoo fired and wants the first pick. We all do. But You guys don't get it. They can't NOT TRY! What the hell do you want?
If the Giants win 2-3-4 more games fucking deal with it. You can't lose on purpose and you can't not try or you will get your head taking off. Mcadoo and spags are coaching for their livelihoods. You wanna sulk fine but to actually blast the team is weak. And again, we're talking 2-8 here people not 4-6. This isnt dreaded middle ground territory here this is shit show territory. It's still a train wreck and probably stays that way.
I'm with you,though,about the wins in general. It would be far worse to tank the season. More than any other sport, in football that gets people hurt. It doesn't really happen.
Plus, at this point forget the first lick. They've pretty much cemented that the best they can do is the 3rd pick, given the competition.
They earned the win by simply coming to play. As I said I always love a win but let’s not pretend this changes anything about how ugly this team has been and behaved and the incompetence of the coaches.
I could see them giving a fight to the Cowboys in that game but there’s really no margin for error. Even the Raiders are a bad matchup problem for us even with their struggles. Even the last game of the year will be a needed game now for the Skins to have any playoff shot.
I think they win one more game, possibly either the Cowboys or Cards game.
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you are right. I did not even notice that he was not there.
The way you can tell he wasn't on the field is there were no blown coverage assignments in the secondary...
Love these types of comments...
* just 1 game, but Wheeler was encouraging.
* Jones improving, and battles
so, OL MIGHT not be as bad as we think going forward and letting both Richburg and Pugh go is plausible.
on the other hand:
* JPP sucks and is showing why paying him was a mistake and as Eric put it, he is a "coach killer".
* McAdoo still sucks, as does this offensive scheme.
* where were the trick plays, the calling out individuals for poor play, the despertation in Week 3 when it still mattered?
* the roster is still bereft of any talent at LB, DE (maybe Vernon excepted) RB. Gallman may be something, need to see more. Need more CB and S as well.
Though I can't "root to lose", I think the worst thing that can happen is that they finish strongly enough that Reese survives and McAdoo and staff aren't canned.
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And some of you are actually cursing the Giants out for winning too many games this year? Two!!! ??
They are gonna go 4-12 or so. That's a terrible win total. And some of you are gonna hang on every win and go nuts like the Giants just sabatoged their future with a negative performance. That's so unfair and this coming from someone who wants mcadoo fired and wants the first pick. We all do. But You guys don't get it. They can't NOT TRY! What the hell do you want?
If the Giants win 2-3-4 more games fucking deal with it. You can't lose on purpose and you can't not try or you will get your head taking off. Mcadoo and spags are coaching for their livelihoods. You wanna sulk fine but to actually blast the team is weak. And again, we're talking 2-8 here people not 4-6. This isnt dreaded middle ground territory here this is shit show territory. It's still a train wreck and probably stays that way.
Overall, I agree. However, I'm not so sure about 4 wins. I'm assuming you think they'll beat Washington once and Dallas? Maybe, but there isn't a game on the schedule, with this team that I expect the Giants to win.
I'm with you,though,about the wins in general. It would be far worse to tank the season. More than any other sport, in football that gets people hurt. It doesn't really happen.
Plus, at this point forget the first lick. They've pretty much cemented that the best they can do is the 3rd pick, given the competition.
Yeah you're probably right but the Giants didn't look absolutely terrible yesterday and have no won two games out of the last five or so. With that in mind I could see them sneaking two more wins out of the remaining 6 but it's probably more likely they win one more.
Can we please beat Dallas and all but end their season? We aren't beating Philly...but Dallas has holes. It would be nice to see them come in to Jersey desperate for a win and have the Giants knock them out.
Gun to my head I'll say 4-12 but 3-13 is a good bet too. The Raiders aren't any good. Dallas as mentioned. Skins? I'd give them the edge in both games but they are flawed and just lost Thompson.
I've shifted my attention to Eli's well being and legacy. We're getting a good draft pick no matter what.