Wheeler played very well

Only gave up one pressure IIRC

How they gave the starting RT position to Hart over Wheeler is mind-boggling. He looked like a natural out there

the HC fired.

I watched a lot of his plays and he did well overall. He certainly earned a start Thursday in my opinion.

make some fine pass blocks. Dunno if moving Flowers to RT will happen.

He has nice tackle foot speed. Not sure he beats Flowers out at LT, but at least there is competition now.

He played 1 year (12 games) of right tackle freshman year of college.
He has spent the last 5 years at left tackle and has turned the corner this year.

Wheeler playing well makes Pugh expendable. Same with Brett Jones.
We can draft a couple of Guards early or sign a FA guard and draft one.

As was noted, Wheeler's feet make all the difference (he's going to be an excellent LT); Flowers is a natural RT.

In comment 13697921 Manny in CA said:

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As was noted, Wheeler's feet make all the difference (he's going to be an excellent LT); Flowers is a natural RT.

I appreciate your opinion but 2 set of coaches disagree with you.

Plus did very well on stunts and the run game. Very excited about this number 63

had at least one blown assignment but was pretty good overall.

Only one bad play that I saw.

have Jackie Slater run our scouting department, at least for the OL

I think everyone got excited when Bobby Hart had a few good games near the end of his rookie season and he has played so poorly this year. Let him continue to develop but don’t pencil him into anything quite yet.

Giants should say goodbye to both Richburg and Pugh. The OL plays better without them.

Not sure I like Pugh as a guard though. As a tackle, OK, yes.

But that's a big improvement from when Flowers was stinking it up on the left OT and Newhouse or Hart stinking it up on the right OT side.

Keep Pugh or not, and Wheeler's contract is probably affordable right now, so maybe that helps,

...we still probably ought to target two high value guards

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He has nice tackle foot speed. Not sure he beats Flowers out at LT, but at least there is competition now.

Gives the Giants the option of keeping Flowers for another two years and then moving Wheeler to LT if that is the way they want to go.

Either way, Wheeler is definitely a huge bright spot in an otherwise dark season.

Maybe Jones makes the cut.

Targeting probowl type guards may become a reality.

Didn't Wheeler play a lot more in college than Hart?

In comment 13697983 idiotsavant said:

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Maybe Jones makes the cut. Targeting probowl type guards may become a reality.

Jones is on the good side of servicable, he doesn't seem to get much push but then he doesn't go backwards much either. You can live with that.

In comment 13697992 bc4life said:

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Didn't Wheeler play a lot more in college than Hart?

Both were starters I believe

In comment 13697992 bc4life said:

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Didn't Wheeler play a lot more in college than Hart?

No. Hart was a 3 year starter and started a bunch of games his freshman year at 17 yrs old.

if the o-line play continues like it did today, do we mess with it much for next year ?

Super quality expensive pieces as opposed to shotgunning projects at this time

Sounds like we mostly favor at guard position based on two threads today.

In comment 13697878 dpinzow said:

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Only gave up one pressure IIRC How they gave the starting RT position to Hart over Wheeler is mind-boggling. He looked like a natural out there

Wheeler wasn't ready at the beginning of the year. He was terrible in pre-season games. But he improved -- for an UDFA to end up starting at tackle in Week 11 is pretty damn good, but let's not rewrite history.

there was one play where he blocked his man past the front of Eli into the oncoming blitzing LB who was just ready
to cream Eli . Saw him hustle downfield and he was ready to scrap . It would be nice if he pans out one less hole to fill . I still like Barkley but we may not have a shot at him there was a couple of plays today where Darkwa had room to run but a several backs coming out this year would have took to the house . Darkwa is what he is he has been relatively healthy this season but you can't bank on this guy . Flowers did a hell of a job today he is gonna see plenty of competition finishing this season hopefully he continues to play well . If Barley is not there I like Nelson or Chub continue to rebuild the trenches .

Despite never playing the position.

Do you actually believe the bullshit that you lay on people around here?

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Despite never playing the position. Do you actually believe the bullshit that you lay on people around here?

You are absolutely the biggest asshole around. You can never make a statement without using obscenities. I’m sure your family is very proud of you

In comment 13698116 Earl the goat said:

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In comment 13698101 B in ALB said: Quote: Despite never playing the position. Do you actually believe the bullshit that you lay on people around here? You are absolutely the biggest asshole around. You can never make a statement without using obscenities. I’m sure your family is very proud of you

Asshole? Moi?

Nice language, Eaaaarl.

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Hasn’t given up a sack since week 2 as a LT... must be a guard.

With Flowers development over the course of the season and Wheeler's showing he can play, we have the most difficult part of the oline taken care of.