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Giants win despite poor game management

Alwaysblue22 : 11/19/2017 5:34 pm
I hope that the team owners noticed the incomprehensible play calling at key points of this game. Trying a trick pass play on the first possession drive when the running game was working, and the team was in easy field goal range. That resulted in a turnover. Then near the end of regulation instead of running the ball to force KC to use their final time out before kicking a go ahead field goal they call a pass play that fell incomplete and saved KC a critical time out helping them to drive down the field and send the game to OT. This shows there is a problem with the thinking process on this team and it is not all due to lack of effort. You can cross Sullivan off the HC list. I was impressed with the effort I saw from King, Lewis and Darkwa. I thought Eli played well and showed that he can actually run although he does not like to do so. He has the ability to do so, and should use his wheels more. Glad to see that our defense finally decided to show up The game should not have gone to overtime. It must be difficult to win when you have to defeat your opponent and your coaching staff at the same time. Good thing Andy Reed also called a bad game for his team, including pathetic pitch plays that never worked and their own trick passing play that was picked off. That is why I believe that Coaches can lose games by over thinking a game plan instead of sticking to basics. Lets hope that Mack does not start to get lucky and then he will be back again. The wind in the stadium was also a factor that inhibited both QBs and helped the defenses.
Holy crap..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/19/2017 5:37 pm : link
EliteMobster is spawning wannabees!!
you are...  
outeiroj : 11/19/2017 5:38 pm : link
a piece of work, you post in a thread saying your rooting for a while but dont see one, and then complain when the giants win...

your a fake as giants fan, and shithead "fans" like you need to take a hike
Ease up there fatty.  
idiotsavant : 11/19/2017 5:38 pm : link
This post could use paragraph breaks through.
Jesus guy's  
idiotsavant : 11/19/2017 5:40 pm : link
Did it even occur to you guys that some of these people are kids or simply not good at typing stuff, etc?

The person can make a point without suffering direct personal insults.
It often..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/19/2017 5:43 pm : link
occurs to me that if people don't know how to use paragraph breaks, decent spelling or some semblance of grammar, they probably should learn to do so before starting a rambling post, but perhaps I expect too much.

But yeah - it is the people commenting on it who are the problem. Perfect.
Wrong on every count  
oldutican : 11/19/2017 5:44 pm : link
re: play calling.
I saw nothing wrong  
section125 : 11/19/2017 6:00 pm : link
with the trick play. I saw nothing wrong with going for the TD at 1:40.

Didn't like 5 yard passes on 3rd and 10 and that fucking stupid zone blitz where Kelce was covered by OV in the last minute of the game.

So another babbling November 2017 makes his debut...
I think Spags fucked up at the end with the blitz call  
OdellBeckhamJr : 11/19/2017 6:09 pm : link
Alex Smith was sucking all game and Spags dials up a blitz and sure enough his guy was wide open way downfield for his biggest pass of the game.

Kudos to them for making the stop in the redzone though.
I didn't read your post.  
Dodge : 11/19/2017 6:31 pm : link
However, you should never write one again. Can you not format it properly? Hit enter at random a few times.

As far as everyone else who actually read it, you're all a waste of space.
Eli Should Use His Wheels More?  
Samiam : 11/19/2017 6:31 pm : link
Has anybody said anything more stupid on this site?
There are always a couple of plays that make you crazy  
Bluesbreaker : 11/19/2017 6:42 pm : link
but were undermanned on both sides of the ball and a few on the defense are not 100% . When your 1-8 and not going anywhere why not open the menu and serve something different than what we have been . I am no fan of Mac but it was nice
to watch a win today and the team played hard and earned it.
We also so continued solid play from Flowers and rookie Wheeler had a nice debut . Putting wheels and Eli in the same sentence is puzzling at best .
You still have guys running wrong routes and not having enough time to get n sync with Eli . Were gonna end up with a top 5 pick at the very least .
Our public schools  
mrvax : 11/19/2017 6:48 pm : link
have gotten real bad at teaching the 3 R's.
It was not the right time for that play  
Vanzetti : 11/19/2017 6:49 pm : link
I love that Ben and Sully mixed it up but they were too close to the goaline so the safety was able to get over. They also probably should have had a decoy receiver on the other side to freeze the safety for just a second

But give the Chiefs player some credit: he made a very good play because the Giants receiver got behind the guy covering him
RE: I saw nothing wrong  
Matt M. : 11/19/2017 6:50 pm : link
In comment 13698068 section125 said:
Quote:
with the trick play. I saw nothing wrong with going for the TD at 1:40.

Didn't like 5 yard passes on 3rd and 10 and that fucking stupid zone blitz where Kelce was covered by OV in the last minute of the game.

So another babbling November 2017 makes his debut...
If the weather wasn't a factor, I'd have no problem with the Vereen pass. But, with wind like today, it was not a wise call, especially asking him to throw downfield. That's what makes Reid's call even worse.

As for the blitz on the big Kelce reception at the end of regulation, I'm not a fan. I don't love Spags. I know the D got 3 turnovers and held KC to 9 points. But, this is also yet another game they were handed a 4th quarter lead and they let the opposition go down for a tying or go ahead/winning score.
Calling out the play-calling  
gmenatlarge : 11/19/2017 7:35 pm : link
Just gets so lame and tiresome, if those plays work he's a genius and if they don't he's a moron. That's why it's called hindsight. I for one was glad to see a little
Imagination just wish it had co e earlier in the season!
It's one thing to call out the points or OP  
idiotsavant : 11/19/2017 8:04 pm : link
But personally attacking the poster .


I just don't know. I mean, none of you guys know what that person went through - before they got here.

Fatman. It's been what, 20 years? Bullying people almost the whole time. That's a weird hobby.
For Christ's sake..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/19/2017 8:20 pm : link
I said he was an EliteMobster clone.

Is this some vulgar insult in anywhere but a Baltic land?

Bullying sure is a pretty subjective thing these days.

Why not wonder why some guy can't put a post in proper context or make some fucking sense?

It would be like a drunk stumbling out of a bar throwing up all over another guys clothes and you're pissed at the guy getting puked on for calling the dude a stupid drunk.

Words are not actions per the supreme court  
idiotsavant : 11/19/2017 8:26 pm : link
Snowflake
I'm going..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/19/2017 8:31 pm : link
to guess you aren't aware of the hypocrisy of calling out personal insults and ending a post with snowflake, right?
RE: It's one thing to call out the points or OP  
B in ALB : 11/19/2017 8:35 pm : link
In comment 13698252 idiotsavant said:
Quote:
But personally attacking the poster .


I just don't know. I mean, none of you guys know what that person went through - before they got here.

Fatman. It's been what, 20 years? Bullying people almost the whole time. That's a weird hobby.


Settle down, hall monitor.

For fuck sake, don't post complete horseshit and you won't get lit up. It's not difficult.
I know you are usually spot on with football fmic  
idiotsavant : 11/19/2017 8:38 pm : link
The best. Just asking you to be gentler with the newbs.

Or use a less aggressive method to redirect the thinker. Or post on the good threads, or start research based threads like Sy does.

As I said. We don't know but can assume most here are not partying on the Riviera so to speak. It's not apples to apples how it is received.
By the way B..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/19/2017 8:38 pm : link
for this guy's education, please enlighten him on how many times I've "bullied" you?

It doesn't take an Oxford degree to not sound like a fucking moron. A lot of this board doesn't. Unfortunately, a fair portion still does.
Not all have thick skin like B  
idiotsavant : 11/19/2017 8:51 pm : link
Tho. Especially newbs who don't use para breaks... maybe.
Back in 2005  
PetesHereNow : 11/19/2017 10:15 pm : link
When Onterrio Smith was caught with his Whizzinator, I posted a link from my AOL browser about the story. Some regs let me know it was already posted and they made fun of my use of AOL.

I learned not to pollute the board with dumb shit though.
RE: Calling out the play-calling  
Matt M. : 11/20/2017 5:47 am : link
In comment 13698223 gmenatlarge said:
Quote:
Just gets so lame and tiresome, if those plays work he's a genius and if they don't he's a moron. That's why it's called hindsight. I for one was glad to see a little
Imagination just wish it had co e earlier in the season!
I can only speak for myself, but I do try to be very objective. I have criticized the playcalling often the last few years. There are plays that worked that I admit I did not like the call and vice versa.
My point...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/20/2017 8:41 am : link
wasn't about how think B's skin is:

Quote:
Not all have thick skin like B
idiotsavant : 11/19/2017 8:51 pm : link : reply
Tho. Especially newbs who don't use para breaks... maybe.


My point is that other than having good-natured fun with many posters, B's never been told to stop posting absolute dreck by me.
For the record?  
Beezer : 11/20/2017 8:44 am : link
And I'm not intimating that any bullying is occurring here. Just pretty clear that no one can be bullies who doesn't allow themselves to be bullied.

Carry on.
I had problems with a bunch of the game calls  
gidiefor : Mod : 11/20/2017 8:51 am : link
yesterday -- so I agree with the OP
"Game management"  
HomerJones45 : 11/20/2017 8:54 am : link
used to be known by another name "Monday morning quarterbacking." and it has about as much validity. The talking head who invented the term should be hung by his balls. If Vereen had hit the pass, the OP would be pissing himself with excitement.
Vereen play  
giantfan2000 : 11/20/2017 8:57 am : link
For 2 years BBI board and mercilessly criticized McaDoo offense for being predictable

did anyone on this board predict that play yesterday ?

so what if it didn't succeed

if I was McaDoo I would call it again on THURSDAY
why the hell not ? no-one will be expecting it again ..

Dude, paragraphs are your friend.  
Section331 : 11/20/2017 9:44 am : link
Your posts are painful to read.
The OP is a Giants fan  
Fish : 11/20/2017 9:54 am : link
Not an English major. Who cares how the post is written. It’s the fuckin internet. The guys that ridicule the OP because there are no paragraphs are jerks (being nice here). The OP made a few points. You can agree, disagree or not comment. No one says you have to like it or hate it. But why challenge the person to write better. Who the fuck cares? The OP is a Giants fan posting on a Giants fan site but the biggest bitches on here have something to say about it. No wonder a bunch of people don’t comment much anymore.

P.S I didn’t use a paragraph anywhere. Hope I don’t get yelled at.


RE: There are always a couple of plays that make you crazy  
Fish : 11/20/2017 9:58 am : link
In comment 13698138 Bluesbreaker said:
Quote:
but were undermanned on both sides of the ball and a few on the defense are not 100% . When your 1-8 and not going anywhere why not open the menu and serve something different than what we have been . I am no fan of Mac but it was nice
to watch a win today and the team played hard and earned it.
We also so continued solid play from Flowers and rookie Wheeler had a nice debut . Putting wheels and Eli in the same sentence is puzzling at best .
You still have guys running wrong routes and not having enough time to get n sync with Eli . Were gonna end up with a top 5 pick at the very least .



If more people answered like this BBI would be much better.
I'm sure every forum  
feelflows : 11/20/2017 10:09 am : link
Has posters in it that make it worse.

It's in this thread, but not the OP.

What if he/she posted to the best of their ability. That means they should stop posting? Because it's not to your standard?

Some silly shit here.
RE: The OP is a Giants fan  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 11/20/2017 10:26 am : link
In comment 13698892 Fish said:
Quote:
Not an English major. Who cares how the post is written. It’s the fuckin internet. The guys that ridicule the OP because there are no paragraphs are jerks (being nice here). The OP made a few points. You can agree, disagree or not comment. No one says you have to like it or hate it. But why challenge the person to write better. Who the fuck cares? The OP is a Giants fan posting on a Giants fan site but the biggest bitches on here have something to say about it. No wonder a bunch of people don’t comment much anymore.

P.S I didn’t use a paragraph anywhere. Hope I don’t get yelled at.



It's not about being perfect grammatically, It's about making a long post readable with line breaks.

The level of ignorance to common board etiquette in this forum is the worst I have ever seen in an internet community. No line breaks. Thread titles that don't indicate what is in the thread. Duplicate topics. It is truly astounding.
Hey pal  
Fish : 11/20/2017 10:30 am : link
if Arthur Staple or any beat writer wrote like the OP I would be concerned. But a regular Giants fan can write anyway he/she sees fit. The OP made his/her points and we can have a discussion on it. No need for dick measuring.
Also.I love fatman. Probably the most accurate Giants football  
idiotsavant : 11/20/2017 10:46 am : link
knowledge on BBI ...over time. And doesn't suffer foolishness. OK, fine.

BUT he compared reading a poorly grammered post or OP, or one he disagrees with to:

'being thrown-up ON... by a drunk'

Which is actually a very unusual and strange way to experience things. Anyone can -choose- to go to a site or not. To open any thread ...or not. To read ...or not. To comment ...or not.

But FMIC apparently perceives poor writing style, or lack of paragraphs breaks, or any opinion that happens to be contrary to his in the moment

> as an actual assault on his person.

Actually "getting thrown up on" leaves one feeling disgusting, smelling horrible, FMIC maybe implies that the person who did it is not only allegorically 'drunk right then', but 'IS A drunk' (a permanent characteristic as opposed to a temporary state, and maybe therefore less human or less acceptable as a person).

Where is the etiquette in that?

It is weird is what it is. For all you know the OP guys wife just died of cancer, or, like RICH (is rich even still here? Loved rich, crazy guy, but in a very awesome way) beaten by his father and all that.

Many people here are lonely. Autistic.

This isn't exactly the cutting edge.

Its a backwater.

Strange people congregate in a backwater. It can be expected and accepted. Varied people can be accepted and expected ..as. who. they. are. If not here then where?
You are reading..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/20/2017 10:53 am : link
an awful lot into my initial post that simply claimed that the OP's style was similar to eliteMobster's.

How that morphed into all the happy horseshit in your last post, I don't know.

If calling the guy an EliteMobster wannabe is a direct, personal attack, then we've really gone of the rails.
but the thing is you are very, if not the most, authoritative  
idiotsavant : 11/20/2017 11:07 am : link
on football here.

and yet also the hardest on newbs and poor writers and even on opinions that differ.

Even if we have an analogy that 'this place is a tough sports bar'...

If some kid walked into the bar wearing an ugly bright green and pink sleeveless T (and the OP was not that off base really even) and...if you were 6'4" and 260lbs, which is analagous to your sports knowledge and understanding...

Would you immediately slap the kid in the face for 'insulting your eyes with his hideous styles'?

Its HIS frigging shirt. You don't have to stare at it.
Let's restage that example a bit..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/20/2017 11:17 am : link
let's say the kid came into the bar naked, either intentionally to create a reaction or unknowingly because he's a moron that can't grasp the utility of clothes. I'm going to tell him he's stark, fucking naked and can either learn social mores, or keep being told he's a frigging imbecile for ignoring them.

The guy who gets clothes ends up fitting into the community. The guy staying naked, pulling his wang in the corner, continues to field shit, even if he ends up having something in common with a famous comedian.
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