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JPP Please somebody look at the tape

NikkiMac : 11/19/2017 8:33 pm
I watched him a lot and used many replays ...... He is playing like crap or is he dogging it maybe I’m wrong but please some of the bbi experts who have game pass and study all that stuff TAKE A LOOK AT THE TAPE !!!!!!
Great post  
OdellBeckhamJr : 11/19/2017 8:35 pm : link
Thank you
I tried to focus on him last week and he looked like he was  
mfsd : 11/19/2017 8:36 pm : link
dogging it regularly. Didn’t watch as closely today but he did looked more active the plays I remember

Not sure what the story is, mystery injury, whatever, but haven’t been too impressed by him this season. And I’ve been a big fan of his all along
i think i recall reading  
japanhead : 11/19/2017 8:39 pm : link
on BBI or somewhere earlier this season that has some hand injury to his deformed hand. he was down hurting today at one point, idk if it was the hand or what i was watching at the bar with no sound on. i'd rather think it's some lingering injury they are managing than that he quit but who knows.
Looks heavier to me...  
Dan in the Springs : 11/19/2017 8:40 pm : link
Maybe in my mind but I see his play as a bit sluggish compared to the preseason.
JPP  
XBRONX : 11/19/2017 8:41 pm : link
is robbing the Giants.
He looks like  
NikkiMac : 11/19/2017 8:47 pm : link
He’s backing off contact .......something is going on there .
The last two weeks?  
Doomster : 11/19/2017 8:48 pm : link
Absolutely dogging it.....but today he played much better.....not what we expect from him, but compared to the last two weeks, much better...
He’s really fallen flat  
Sammo85 : 11/19/2017 8:48 pm : link
This year. Even his usual dependable run defending has been subpar.

He’s still here next year though. Vernons injury issues has really caused the pass rush to be non existent.
Bummer  
idiotsavant : 11/19/2017 8:48 pm : link
Because I was one of the first here after he blew up his hand saying that he not only would still have a career, but do well. Fairly unpopular opinion at the time.

Sadly, if he has dropped off (and admittedly it's a brutal sport) it seems like for other reasons.

Seems like he busted his butt to come back and then this year just cruised.

- Mea Culpa.

Avery Moss  
XBRONX : 11/19/2017 8:49 pm : link
should get more snaps.
Ok  
BigBlueShock : 11/19/2017 8:49 pm : link
I looked at all the tape.

Now what?
I think he's clearly banged up  
Andy in Boston : 11/19/2017 9:12 pm : link
Knee and shoulder
I don't have tape but I have rewind...  
Jerry K : 11/19/2017 9:19 pm : link
I think he's been terrible. He regularly loses contain on outside runs and is often easily handled by the OT. He was pushed around a lot by #78 (I think) of the Chiefs. A RB knocked him on his ass on one play. JPP has often given up ground, retreating 5 - 10 yards in the face of blockers rather than holding his position.
I think his fat wallet is slowing him down.  
Sarcastic Sam : 11/19/2017 9:23 pm : link
.
At least he stands  
Blue Moon : 11/19/2017 9:42 pm : link
For this country's national anthem. Worth every penny.
I'll  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/19/2017 9:49 pm : link
have to go back and re-watch the tape, but he made some plays out there against the run. And he was a factor in the first turnover that led to a TD.
He caused Harrison's interception by leveling Kelce  
PetesHereNow : 11/19/2017 9:54 pm : link
Made several plays vs the run. Was a leading contributor of a defense that allowed 9 pts to a top offense today.

Yet, BBI wants to ride the guy out of town because he has a contract of a top 5 DE.
JPP may have a back  
mrvax : 11/19/2017 9:58 pm : link
Just sayin'.
He absolutely lit up Kelce on one play  
DennyInDenville : 11/19/2017 10:08 pm : link
Kelce will feel that for the rest of his life
Overpaid piece of shit  
annexOPR : 11/19/2017 10:09 pm : link
Who should be grateful this franchise was “classy” enough to pay him

This team is a bunch of despicable overrated ghetto pieces of shit - but they run fast so yay let’s cheer

I actually dislike this team quite a bit. Great win rah rah Giants ! Congrats on lowering the draft pick you fucking bums
RE: Overpaid piece of shit  
ThatLimerickGuy : 11/19/2017 10:12 pm : link
In comment 13698441 annexOPR said:
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Who should be grateful this franchise was “classy” enough to pay him

This team is a bunch of despicable overrated ghetto pieces of shit - but they run fast so yay let’s cheer

I actually dislike this team quite a bit. Great win rah rah Giants ! Congrats on lowering the draft pick you fucking bums


Well there you go. We found someone even more on this side of the coin than me.
He hasn't been good  
Sy'56 : 11/19/2017 10:15 pm : link
He flashes here and there...but not good enough for what he is being paid.

The hit he put on Kelce...there are maybe 3-4 players in the league that have that kind of short area power output. Too bad he doesn't do it consistently.
JPP actually made a game changing play today  
B in ALB : 11/19/2017 10:15 pm : link
on the Kelce hit. That was absolutely huge and definitely sparked the team. Especially allowing Snacks to get the pick.

That said, and I hate to say it, but you really do have to grade him play by play.

He's wholely unmemorable and was routinely getting manhandled by either the TE or Cameron Erving. Schwartz, when he kicked out, was murdering him. It wasn't pretty.

He looks heavy to me. Perhaps a bit out of shape. He lacks the explosiveness we've become accustomed to seeing. He still plays the run... To a point.

But he also gets caught peeking inside far too often for a veteran player.

I think he needs to lean out in the off-season. Speed up, get a different trainer and perhaps a better dietician. His days are numbered.
RE: JPP actually made a game changing play today  
PetesHereNow : 11/19/2017 10:21 pm : link
In comment 13698447 B in ALB said:
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on the Kelce hit. That was absolutely huge and definitely sparked the team. Especially allowing Snacks to get the pick.

That said, and I hate to say it, but you really do have to grade him play by play.

He's wholely unmemorable and was routinely getting manhandled by either the TE or Cameron Erving. Schwartz, when he kicked out, was murdering him. It wasn't pretty.

He looks heavy to me. Perhaps a bit out of shape. He lacks the explosiveness we've become accustomed to seeing. He still plays the run... To a point.

But he also gets caught peeking inside far too often for a veteran player.

I think he needs to lean out in the off-season. Speed up, get a different trainer and perhaps a better dietician. His days are numbered.


I think you're right about his conditioning. But I also think a linebacker that could make plays from sideline to sideline would make both JPP and Vernon into better players. I think they both try to do too much to justify their big pay days and it costs the defense as they struggle with maintaining gap integrity at times.
Yeah, I was watching a bit since so many  
section125 : 11/19/2017 10:23 pm : link
say he is playing poorly. He looks hurt and slow. One play he's blowing up a run and the next not so much, but his pass rush is really poor. Maybe back is right. Very upright in his rush, no bend. He is decent enough on runs crashing down the line, but no power or speed rushing.
...  
christian : 11/19/2017 10:24 pm : link
He alluded to having not one but a couple off season procedures and I imagine he missed a bunch of time. He's noticeably thick around the gut. Looks like when he came back after his back issue in 2013.

He's also banged up and plays through it. He's on the ground virtually every game and comes out. That's not to say his output has been on par with his pay. But he's about the last guy on the team I'd worry about toughness or dedication.
the only time i saw him come into the frame  
gtt350 : 11/19/2017 10:30 pm : link
he was off sides
RE: the only time i saw him come into the frame  
section125 : 11/19/2017 10:31 pm : link
In comment 13698473 gtt350 said:
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he was off sides


Yeah and the RG should have been called....he flinched.
RE: I don't have tape but I have rewind...  
NikkiMac : 11/19/2017 10:47 pm : link
In comment 13698379 Jerry K said:
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I think he's been terrible. He regularly loses contain on outside runs and is often easily handled by the OT. He was pushed around a lot by #78 (I think) of the Chiefs. A RB knocked him on his ass on one play. JPP has often given up ground, retreating 5 - 10 yards in the face of blockers rather than holding his position.




That’s what I see exactly he’s just retreating
RE: Ok  
NikkiMac : 11/19/2017 10:51 pm : link
In comment 13698333 BigBlueShock said:
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I looked at all the tape.

Now what?


What do you mean now what ? Do you have an opinion or are you being a smart ass ?
RE: He hasn't been good  
NikkiMac : 11/19/2017 10:56 pm : link
In comment 13698446 Sy'56 said:
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He flashes here and there...but not good enough for what he is being paid.

The hit he put on Kelce...there are maybe 3-4 players in the league that have that kind of short area power output. Too bad he doesn't do it consistently.


I agree Synbut he looks like he’s backing off of contact or too much patty cake with the offensive lineman he’s not shedding blocks at all and he’s moving backwards idk that’s the way it looks to me maybe he’s hurt granted
RE: JPP  
LauderdaleMatty : 11/19/2017 11:10 pm : link
In comment 13698319 XBRONX said:
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is robbing the Giants.
m

So is Vernon. Both guys need to be replaced. Both are good guys by all
Accounts but boy are they two of the most over paoe people in the NFL at this time

Hand  
jbeintherockies : 11/19/2017 11:38 pm : link
It's hard for him to play heavy handed.
RE: Overpaid piece of shit  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/19/2017 11:41 pm : link
In comment 13698441 annexOPR said:
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Who should be grateful this franchise was “classy” enough to pay him

This team is a bunch of despicable overrated ghetto pieces of shit - but they run fast so yay let’s cheer

I actually dislike this team quite a bit. Great win rah rah Giants ! Congrats on lowering the draft pick you fucking bums


Just quoting this post so Mods know what to do with it.
RE: RE: Overpaid piece of shit  
2ndroundKO : 11/19/2017 11:58 pm : link
In comment 13698544 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 13698441 annexOPR said:


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Who should be grateful this franchise was “classy” enough to pay him

This team is a bunch of despicable overrated ghetto pieces of shit - but they run fast so yay let’s cheer

I actually dislike this team quite a bit. Great win rah rah Giants ! Congrats on lowering the draft pick you fucking bums



Just quoting this post so Mods know what to do with it.
Don't hold your breath.
RE: I think he's clearly banged up  
Toth029 : 11/20/2017 12:16 am : link
In comment 13698368 Andy in Boston said:
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Knee and shoulder

What else is new
He's certainly not having a great season  
Matt M. : 11/20/2017 12:17 am : link
But a post like this is odd on the same day he made one of the biggest plays of the game.
annexOPR  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/20/2017 12:57 am : link
Your account has been suspended for that comment.
JPP did have the play Eric mentioned  
Giant John : 11/20/2017 1:23 am : link
Vernon seems to be getting pushed around. Did anybody else notice?
A money for C players  
Go Terps : 11/20/2017 1:39 am : link
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JPP does look heavy  
DavidinBMNY : 11/20/2017 7:20 am : link
Did anyone notice his face, when he came off the field due to injury? That looked fuller then last year...

He isn't playing well. To myself and many others he looks non existent. He did make a few plays against the run in addition to the hit on Kelce.

I think less is more with JPP and Vernon. They likely are both banged up. More Moss and Wynn to hopefully get quality snaps out of JPP and Vernon with less quantity.
He looked awful. Never even sniffing the backfield  
Jimmy Googs : 11/20/2017 7:30 am : link
on passing plays. I focused in on him the whole game.

The only reason he made the hit on Kelce is because a shuffle pass goes to the LOS which is where JPP typically hangs out all game versus getting penetration.

Cut...
Some people just  
Gman11 : 11/20/2017 7:38 am : link
can't enjoy a win, can they?
The moment is over  
Jimmy Googs : 11/20/2017 7:47 am : link
this is the time to critique...
RE: JPP does look heavy  
Biteymax22 : 11/20/2017 8:22 am : link
In comment 13698657 DavidinBMNY said:
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Did anyone notice his face, when he came off the field due to injury? That looked fuller then last year...

He isn't playing well. To myself and many others he looks non existent. He did make a few plays against the run in addition to the hit on Kelce.

I think less is more with JPP and Vernon. They likely are both banged up. More Moss and Wynn to hopefully get quality snaps out of JPP and Vernon with less quantity.


I noticed the weight gain too, he appears to be 10 or so lbs heavier than he played last year, may be part of the reason he has seemed to lose his burst around the corner.

On the flip side he has anchored against the run well this year, which may be a positive of the weight gain.
He is my  
BIGbluegermany : 11/20/2017 8:28 am : link
biggest disappointment on this team.Maybe there is an injury,maybe it's spags scheme i don't know what's wrong with him.
RE: He looked awful. Never even sniffing the backfield  
NikkiMac : 11/20/2017 8:56 am : link
In comment 13698661 Jimmy Googs said:
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on passing plays. I focused in on him the whole game.

The only reason he made the hit on Kelce is because a shuffle pass goes to the LOS which is where JPP typically hangs out all game versus getting penetration.

Cut...


So did i Jimmy Googs your comment is what I saw exactly !
RE: He's certainly not having a great season  
NikkiMac : 11/20/2017 9:57 am : link
In comment 13698574 Matt M. said:
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But a post like this is odd on the same day he made one of the biggest plays of the game.


I usually am not a critique but his play stood out to me on television !!
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