I watched him a lot and used many replays ...... He is playing like crap or is he dogging it maybe I’m wrong but please some of the bbi experts who have game pass and study all that stuff TAKE A LOOK AT THE TAPE !!!!!!
on BBI or somewhere earlier this season that has some hand injury to his deformed hand. he was down hurting today at one point, idk if it was the hand or what i was watching at the bar with no sound on. i'd rather think it's some lingering injury they are managing than that he quit but who knows.
Because I was one of the first here after he blew up his hand saying that he not only would still have a career, but do well. Fairly unpopular opinion at the time.
Sadly, if he has dropped off (and admittedly it's a brutal sport) it seems like for other reasons.
Seems like he busted his butt to come back and then this year just cruised.
I think he's been terrible. He regularly loses contain on outside runs and is often easily handled by the OT. He was pushed around a lot by #78 (I think) of the Chiefs. A RB knocked him on his ass on one play. JPP has often given up ground, retreating 5 - 10 yards in the face of blockers rather than holding his position.
He flashes here and there...but not good enough for what he is being paid.
The hit he put on Kelce...there are maybe 3-4 players in the league that have that kind of short area power output. Too bad he doesn't do it consistently.
on the Kelce hit. That was absolutely huge and definitely sparked the team. Especially allowing Snacks to get the pick.
That said, and I hate to say it, but you really do have to grade him play by play.
He's wholely unmemorable and was routinely getting manhandled by either the TE or Cameron Erving. Schwartz, when he kicked out, was murdering him. It wasn't pretty.
He looks heavy to me. Perhaps a bit out of shape. He lacks the explosiveness we've become accustomed to seeing. He still plays the run... To a point.
But he also gets caught peeking inside far too often for a veteran player.
I think he needs to lean out in the off-season. Speed up, get a different trainer and perhaps a better dietician. His days are numbered.
RE: JPP actually made a game changing play today Â
on the Kelce hit. That was absolutely huge and definitely sparked the team. Especially allowing Snacks to get the pick.
That said, and I hate to say it, but you really do have to grade him play by play.
He's wholely unmemorable and was routinely getting manhandled by either the TE or Cameron Erving. Schwartz, when he kicked out, was murdering him. It wasn't pretty.
He looks heavy to me. Perhaps a bit out of shape. He lacks the explosiveness we've become accustomed to seeing. He still plays the run... To a point.
But he also gets caught peeking inside far too often for a veteran player.
I think he needs to lean out in the off-season. Speed up, get a different trainer and perhaps a better dietician. His days are numbered.
I think you're right about his conditioning. But I also think a linebacker that could make plays from sideline to sideline would make both JPP and Vernon into better players. I think they both try to do too much to justify their big pay days and it costs the defense as they struggle with maintaining gap integrity at times.
say he is playing poorly. He looks hurt and slow. One play he's blowing up a run and the next not so much, but his pass rush is really poor. Maybe back is right. Very upright in his rush, no bend. He is decent enough on runs crashing down the line, but no power or speed rushing.
He alluded to having not one but a couple off season procedures and I imagine he missed a bunch of time. He's noticeably thick around the gut. Looks like when he came back after his back issue in 2013.
He's also banged up and plays through it. He's on the ground virtually every game and comes out. That's not to say his output has been on par with his pay. But he's about the last guy on the team I'd worry about toughness or dedication.
I think he's been terrible. He regularly loses contain on outside runs and is often easily handled by the OT. He was pushed around a lot by #78 (I think) of the Chiefs. A RB knocked him on his ass on one play. JPP has often given up ground, retreating 5 - 10 yards in the face of blockers rather than holding his position.
He flashes here and there...but not good enough for what he is being paid.
The hit he put on Kelce...there are maybe 3-4 players in the league that have that kind of short area power output. Too bad he doesn't do it consistently.
I agree Synbut he looks like he’s backing off of contact or too much patty cake with the offensive lineman he’s not shedding blocks at all and he’s moving backwards idk that’s the way it looks to me maybe he’s hurt granted
So is Vernon. Both guys need to be replaced. Both are good guys by all
Accounts but boy are they two of the most over paoe people in the NFL at this time
Did anyone notice his face, when he came off the field due to injury? That looked fuller then last year...
He isn't playing well. To myself and many others he looks non existent. He did make a few plays against the run in addition to the hit on Kelce.
I think less is more with JPP and Vernon. They likely are both banged up. More Moss and Wynn to hopefully get quality snaps out of JPP and Vernon with less quantity.
He looked awful. Never even sniffing the backfield Â
on passing plays. I focused in on him the whole game.
The only reason he made the hit on Kelce is because a shuffle pass goes to the LOS which is where JPP typically hangs out all game versus getting penetration.
Did anyone notice his face, when he came off the field due to injury? That looked fuller then last year...
He isn't playing well. To myself and many others he looks non existent. He did make a few plays against the run in addition to the hit on Kelce.
I think less is more with JPP and Vernon. They likely are both banged up. More Moss and Wynn to hopefully get quality snaps out of JPP and Vernon with less quantity.
I noticed the weight gain too, he appears to be 10 or so lbs heavier than he played last year, may be part of the reason he has seemed to lose his burst around the corner.
On the flip side he has anchored against the run well this year, which may be a positive of the weight gain.
on passing plays. I focused in on him the whole game.
The only reason he made the hit on Kelce is because a shuffle pass goes to the LOS which is where JPP typically hangs out all game versus getting penetration.
Cut...
So did i Jimmy Googs your comment is what I saw exactly !
Not sure what the story is, mystery injury, whatever, but haven’t been too impressed by him this season. And I’ve been a big fan of his all along
He’s still here next year though. Vernons injury issues has really caused the pass rush to be non existent.
Sadly, if he has dropped off (and admittedly it's a brutal sport) it seems like for other reasons.
Seems like he busted his butt to come back and then this year just cruised.
- Mea Culpa.
Now what?
Yet, BBI wants to ride the guy out of town because he has a contract of a top 5 DE.
This team is a bunch of despicable overrated ghetto pieces of shit - but they run fast so yay let’s cheer
I actually dislike this team quite a bit. Great win rah rah Giants ! Congrats on lowering the draft pick you fucking bums
This team is a bunch of despicable overrated ghetto pieces of shit - but they run fast so yay let’s cheer
I actually dislike this team quite a bit. Great win rah rah Giants ! Congrats on lowering the draft pick you fucking bums
Well there you go. We found someone even more on this side of the coin than me.
The hit he put on Kelce...there are maybe 3-4 players in the league that have that kind of short area power output. Too bad he doesn't do it consistently.
That said, and I hate to say it, but you really do have to grade him play by play.
He's wholely unmemorable and was routinely getting manhandled by either the TE or Cameron Erving. Schwartz, when he kicked out, was murdering him. It wasn't pretty.
He looks heavy to me. Perhaps a bit out of shape. He lacks the explosiveness we've become accustomed to seeing. He still plays the run... To a point.
But he also gets caught peeking inside far too often for a veteran player.
I think he needs to lean out in the off-season. Speed up, get a different trainer and perhaps a better dietician. His days are numbered.
That said, and I hate to say it, but you really do have to grade him play by play.
He's wholely unmemorable and was routinely getting manhandled by either the TE or Cameron Erving. Schwartz, when he kicked out, was murdering him. It wasn't pretty.
He looks heavy to me. Perhaps a bit out of shape. He lacks the explosiveness we've become accustomed to seeing. He still plays the run... To a point.
But he also gets caught peeking inside far too often for a veteran player.
I think he needs to lean out in the off-season. Speed up, get a different trainer and perhaps a better dietician. His days are numbered.
I think you're right about his conditioning. But I also think a linebacker that could make plays from sideline to sideline would make both JPP and Vernon into better players. I think they both try to do too much to justify their big pay days and it costs the defense as they struggle with maintaining gap integrity at times.
He's also banged up and plays through it. He's on the ground virtually every game and comes out. That's not to say his output has been on par with his pay. But he's about the last guy on the team I'd worry about toughness or dedication.
Yeah and the RG should have been called....he flinched.
That’s what I see exactly he’s just retreating
Now what?
What do you mean now what ? Do you have an opinion or are you being a smart ass ?
The hit he put on Kelce...there are maybe 3-4 players in the league that have that kind of short area power output. Too bad he doesn't do it consistently.
I agree Synbut he looks like he’s backing off of contact or too much patty cake with the offensive lineman he’s not shedding blocks at all and he’s moving backwards idk that’s the way it looks to me maybe he’s hurt granted
So is Vernon. Both guys need to be replaced. Both are good guys by all
Accounts but boy are they two of the most over paoe people in the NFL at this time
This team is a bunch of despicable overrated ghetto pieces of shit - but they run fast so yay let’s cheer
I actually dislike this team quite a bit. Great win rah rah Giants ! Congrats on lowering the draft pick you fucking bums
Just quoting this post so Mods know what to do with it.
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Who should be grateful this franchise was “classy” enough to pay him
This team is a bunch of despicable overrated ghetto pieces of shit - but they run fast so yay let’s cheer
I actually dislike this team quite a bit. Great win rah rah Giants ! Congrats on lowering the draft pick you fucking bums
Just quoting this post so Mods know what to do with it.
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He isn't playing well. To myself and many others he looks non existent. He did make a few plays against the run in addition to the hit on Kelce.
I think less is more with JPP and Vernon. They likely are both banged up. More Moss and Wynn to hopefully get quality snaps out of JPP and Vernon with less quantity.
The only reason he made the hit on Kelce is because a shuffle pass goes to the LOS which is where JPP typically hangs out all game versus getting penetration.
Cut...
He isn't playing well. To myself and many others he looks non existent. He did make a few plays against the run in addition to the hit on Kelce.
I think less is more with JPP and Vernon. They likely are both banged up. More Moss and Wynn to hopefully get quality snaps out of JPP and Vernon with less quantity.
I noticed the weight gain too, he appears to be 10 or so lbs heavier than he played last year, may be part of the reason he has seemed to lose his burst around the corner.
On the flip side he has anchored against the run well this year, which may be a positive of the weight gain.
The only reason he made the hit on Kelce is because a shuffle pass goes to the LOS which is where JPP typically hangs out all game versus getting penetration.
Cut...
So did i Jimmy Googs your comment is what I saw exactly !
I usually am not a critique but his play stood out to me on television !!