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Denver fires OC Mike McCoy

jeff57 : 11/20/2017 10:16 am
Joseph next?
You can fire coaches mid season?  
ajr2456 : 11/20/2017 10:17 am : link
Someone should tell the Mara's
I'd take  
Powerclean765 : 11/20/2017 10:17 am : link
McCoy here in a heartbeat over Sullivan and give him full control of the offense.

That said, I don't want a WCO anymore, moving forward.
Bill Musgrave named OC  
jeff57 : 11/20/2017 10:18 am : link
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Sure..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/20/2017 10:22 am : link
let's tell the Mara's:

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You can fire coaches mid season?
ajr2456 : 10:17 am : link : reply
Someone should tell the Mara's


Can we also explain to them exactly what the benefit is to doing so? clearly it must be easily articulated and apparent to everyone....
For what it's worth.  
FStubbs : 11/20/2017 10:26 am : link
We've fired coordinators mid season before. Just ask Hufnagel.
Schefter  
jeff57 : 11/20/2017 10:26 am : link
Talk about a rough year: Former Broncos OC and Chargers HC Mike McCoy now has been fired twice in the past 10+ months

There were  
Pete in MD : 11/20/2017 10:26 am : link
rumblings that the team thinks McCoy's scheme is too complicated. So I guess they're going to simplify things. Where have we heard that before?
RE: For what it's worth.  
ajr2456 : 11/20/2017 10:29 am : link
In comment 13698962 FStubbs said:
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We've fired coordinators mid season before. Just ask Hufnagel.


And yet Tom Quinn skates by every year with piss poor special teams play
RE: RE: For what it's worth.  
jeff57 : 11/20/2017 10:29 am : link
In comment 13698974 ajr2456 said:
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In comment 13698962 FStubbs said:


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We've fired coordinators mid season before. Just ask Hufnagel.



And yet Tom Quinn skates by every year with piss poor special teams play


That's a special case.
RE: There were  
jeff57 : 11/20/2017 10:30 am : link
In comment 13698967 Pete in MD said:
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rumblings that the team thinks McCoy's scheme is too complicated. So I guess they're going to simplify things. Where have we heard that before?


Simple, complicated, doesn't matter if you don't have a QB.
Rember not that long ago  
bluepepper : 11/20/2017 10:31 am : link
when John Elway was a genius? Now he's firing guys for not getting it done with Trevor Siemian and Brock Osweiler.
McCoy was not the problem in Denver  
superspynyg : 11/20/2017 10:34 am : link
with 3 shit show qbs and a limited run game.

Joseph will not be fired this year. he will get a year 2.
Siemian  
Pete in MD : 11/20/2017 10:49 am : link
was a two time academic all Big 10 at Northwestern. He probably has no problem digesting a complicated playbook. He's just not a very good NFL QB.
RE: There were  
PatersonPlank : 11/20/2017 10:58 am : link
In comment 13698967 Pete in MD said:
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rumblings that the team thinks McCoy's scheme is too complicated. So I guess they're going to simplify things. Where have we heard that before?


Ha ha. Whenever the offense isn't working the "insiders" say its too complicated (read the players). This is because it couldn't possibly be the players. It couldn't possible be because their QB sucks (either one) and their RB's are the most overrated tandem in the NFL.
I can't believe people would want to bring in McCoy after the train  
SterlingArcher : 11/20/2017 11:00 am : link
wreck he made out of the Denver offense! It is always amazing and amusing that as soon as a player is cut or a coach is fired people start jumping up and down to kick the tires!
RE: Rember not that long ago  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 11/20/2017 11:14 am : link
In comment 13698981 bluepepper said:
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when John Elway was a genius? Now he's firing guys for not getting it done with Trevor Siemian and Brock Osweiler.


Paxton Lynch got hurt over Summer Training camp I believe and can't play at all this year. That can't help them at all.
RE: RE: Rember not that long ago  
ZogZerg : 11/20/2017 11:54 am : link
In comment 13699085 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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In comment 13698981 bluepepper said:


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when John Elway was a genius? Now he's firing guys for not getting it done with Trevor Siemian and Brock Osweiler.



Paxton Lynch got hurt over Summer Training camp I believe and can't play at all this year. That can't help them at all.



Lynch lost the job before he got hurt...
Musgrave  
jbeintherockies : 11/20/2017 12:18 pm : link
I was reading about the firing and went to a few of the Bronco fan forums. It is funny, they complain about the Broncos organization being a shit-show as much as we do. There are articles on Elway's poor drafting, too.

https://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?247958-Mike-McCoy-fired

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=128755


Making Musgrave the OC for the Raiders game might make sense:

https://predominantlyorange.com/2017/11/20/mike-mccoy-fired-broncos-bill-musgrave-promoted/
There's not much to work with  
Banks : 11/20/2017 12:49 pm : link
The line gives up a lot of pressure and the qbs are terrible. Osweiler is bad enough he lost his job to Tom Savage and wasn't wanted in cleveland. Siemian isn't much better
RE: There's not much to work with  
Carson53 : 11/20/2017 2:01 pm : link
In comment 13699261 Banks said:
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The line gives up a lot of pressure and the qbs are terrible. Osweiler is bad enough he lost his job to Tom Savage and wasn't wanted in cleveland. Siemian isn't much better
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The Hall of Fame QB needs to find a QB for his team!
Siemien was a 7th Rd. pick, Paxton Lynch was a reach at #25
in the first round. Well, they brought back Osweiler...
good luck there. McCoy was not the problem though,
just a scapegoat.
RE: You can fire coaches mid season?  
Section331 : 11/20/2017 2:17 pm : link
In comment 13698942 ajr2456 said:
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Someone should tell the Mara's


Be careful what you wish for. Firing a coordinator this late in a lost season would almost insure that McAdoo comes back. Otherwise, why make the switch?

I have to think firing McCoy is Elway's idea, his comments about his team being soft don't bode well for Vance Joseph's chances of making it to next year.
Everyone’s fault but Elway  
Rflairr : 11/20/2017 4:52 pm : link
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RE: Rember not that long ago  
djm : 11/20/2017 9:18 pm : link
In comment 13698981 bluepepper said:
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when John Elway was a genius? Now he's firing guys for not getting it done with Trevor Siemian and Brock Osweiler.


Funny how that works. Most GMs either get lucky or they don't. Some are better than others but most are only as good as the coach and qb they "discovered."
I could have sworn Elway was seriously kicking the tires...  
bw in dc : 11/20/2017 10:13 pm : link
on Kaepernick at one point. Assuming yes, that may have been a better stop gap answer than anything since Manning rolled...
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