Marlins have received trade offers for Stanton from the Giants, Cardinals, and possibly the Red Sox. Stanton has said he wont go to Sox or Cards. Not sure why not the Cards. They have the trade power with 3 top prospect arms. Not sure who they offered.
JD Martinez agent wants 200 mil for his guy. Martinez is a very good player but not sure he is worth that. He will prob get it though.
MLB and Japan have agreed to extend the posting agreement one year and list Otani under the extension. Just waiting for Players Union to agree to it. I don't see why they would not agree. Due to his age he would have to sign a minor league deal and would be subject just like all other. Rangers have the most money 3.5 mil and the Yanks are just under that with 3.3 mil.
Not sure if any deals will be done before Thanksgiving.
Do you think they will lose top prospect Acuna?
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that the league drops the hammer on the Braves. I am prepared.
Do you think they will lose top prospect Acuna?
There is NO way that Acuna is in danger. Maitan is certainly gone and Severino, Soto, J Contreras, Gutierrez, and Soto are possible too. It is even possible that Christian Pache, and Derian Cruz will be set free as well.
really send a message to the league that this type of nefarious activity will not be tolerated.
really send a message to the league that this type of nefarious activity will not be tolerated.
Lol you wish pj
Hideki Matsui will be involved in the Otahni recruitment which would be great as Matsui is very respected in Japan.
Industry Insiders think that Rays pitcher Alex Cobb will sign with either Yanks or Cubs.
He was signed by a different GM.
No, it isn't.
This has been an aspect that most fans have ignored. Both Stanton and Gordon's contracts exceed their value. As such, NO team is going to give up BOTH top prospects AND take on the massive deals.
Thus, the Marlins have a tough choice to make.
They will either have to take the best prospect package offered, while eating a substantial portion of Stanton's deal- or they can get a pittance in return for the other team taking on that deal.
Add in that Stanton has a full no-trade clause and likely has made his desires of where he will and won't accept being traded has an impact- and will also likely reduce the Marlin's bargaining power.
really send a message to the league that this type of nefarious activity will not be tolerated.
Be careful what you ask for. Given that a large number of other teams engage in these activities- the Braves were the ones who got caught this year, and the Red Sox got hit a few years ago- you could end up with annual minor league FA for every prospect.
Then, you really would have the haves and have-nots. The rich teams would just scoop every good prospect up and the others would be left with scraps.
Any of those 4 would be a very good addition. Hopefully they land multiple.
People forget that trading a Mega contract is not an easy thing. Remember the ARod trade?
The Yanks got ARod- AND got the Rangers to pay $67M of the remaining $179M. The Rangers got Soriano- who was a year from FA and left after that year- and a scrub minor leaguer- Joaquin Arias- who never amounted to much.
I think people need to dramatically re-set their expectations on what the Marlins are going to get for Stanton.
Cocky pos probably set the franchise back.
I doubt it.
He has a PED suspension already, he is a pure slap hitter- he either gets a single or nothing, and his defense isn't special.
There is also a gut of 2B on the market already- and most contenders don't need a 2B.
If that's true, show me the 2B making $26.6M.
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Gordon has been worth 3.3, 4.8, 1.0 (missed half the season) and 3.3 fWAR. Using current WAR value Dee Gordon was worth 26.6 million in 2017 alone.
If that's true, show me the 2B making $26.6M.
...crickets...
Huh? That refers to his value not what he'd actually get paid. Sorry suggesting Dee Gordon's contract at 10.5, 13, 13 is somehow hard to move is ridiculous. That's a fair market deal for a very good player coming off a good year.
Cocky pos probably set the franchise back.
Sadly, I don't think that is the case.
From what I have read, it seems like the GM was such a bad guy to other people that his own people (Braves employees) turned him into the league. That's how MLB knows so much about what happened.
I really think that MLB is trying to not pull on this string too hard for fear of what comes out.
Think about this- we hear every year how prospect so and so is "likely going to sign with team X"- months and sometimes a year before the signing period even starts. Do you REALLY think that most teams involved in IFA have clean hands? I don't.
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Gordon has been worth 3.3, 4.8, 1.0 (missed half the season) and 3.3 fWAR. Using current WAR value Dee Gordon was worth 26.6 million in 2017 alone.
If that's true, show me the 2B making $26.6M.
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Huh? That refers to his value not what he'd actually get paid. Sorry suggesting Dee Gordon's contract at 10.5, 13, 13 is somehow hard to move is ridiculous. That's a fair market deal for a very good player coming off a good year.
I'll say it again- Gordon is a limited player. His speed is his skill- he slaps the ball and either gets a single (or a double or triple down the line) or he's out. He has a good BA- but that's about the only way he gets on base- 25 walks ALL YEAR last year. His career high is 31 walks.
His fielding is also pretty average.
As for the contract- take a look at the 4 year $20M deal Brian Dozier got- the Twins have been trying to trade him for 2 years and haven't been able to get it done- and Dozier is a MUCH better player than Gordon.
Cocky pos probably set the franchise back.
The truth is if Coppy wasn't such an asshole to everyone who worked under him none of this would have been reported. The league does not want to open a can of worms here. We could see several other international prospects coming forward in hopes of being declared a FA so that they get a 2nd pay day.
2. Dozier wasn't traded because the Twins were asking for a HUGE return. They weren't "unable" to trade him as you suggest. You honestly with a straight face can say that you believe the Twins had trouble finding takers for a guy who made 3 and 6 million the last 2 seasons and is only owed 9 this season? No. They had serious talks with the Dodgers (among others) asked for a ton and they couldn't find a match. Really odd to suggest Brian Dozier's salary has impacted his value, his contract is one of the best bargains in baseball.
"The two sides were known to be discussing an extension earlier this month, and the Twins in fact first explored locking Dozier up last offseason. Many scenarios were discussed, ESPN 1500s Darren Wolfson reports, and Wolfson was a little surprised the Twins didnt look to add at least one option year onto the deal. On the one hand, if Dozier keeps producing, the Twins now face paying a lot more for his 2019 season and beyond if they want to keep him. That said, the Twins would obviously be ecstatic if Dozier keeps hitting since it will make their four-year/$20MM commitment look like a bargain, yet the deal is also short enough that it gives Minnesota flexibility if Dozier comes back to earth. From Doziers perspective, he scores one big payday now and still has the freedom to test the open market at age 31."
And while Stanton's contract is massive, if he were a free agent this offseason, he'd certainly get something approaching that deal. After next year's free agency, that contract might not look so bad.
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11. Luis Guillorme, SS
12. Wuilmer Becerra, OF
15. Jhoan Urena, 3B
17. Luis Carpio, SS
20. Ali Sanchez, C
27. Corey Oswalt, RHP
30. Gerson Bautista, RHP
1. Gleyber Torres, INF
6. Domingo Acevedo, RHP
7. Albert Abreu, RHP
17. Thairo Estrada, SS/2B
*18. Jake Cave, OF
23. Billy McKinney, OF/1B
Sanmartin is a 21 year old lefty from Columbia signed by Texas in 2015...
Then let Andujar/Torres compete for 3B
New York Mets (7)
11. Luis Guillorme, SS
12. Wuilmer Becerra, OF
15. Jhoan Urena, 3B
17. Luis Carpio, SS
20. Ali Sanchez, C
27. Corey Oswalt, RHP
30. Gerson Bautista, RHP
How many 40 man spots do they have? Maybe a year they can poach someone from another team.
I can't see anyone keeping almost anyone on that list on their active roster all season. Maybe Guillorme, he's turned into an interesting prospect. I'd like to see him in camp.
That's what I said last year about Luis Torrens, but then the laughable Padres did exactly that. He hit .163/.243/.203 over 123 ABs, but they didn't care about winning and now they can just send him to AA and try to develop him.
Weird note about the Padres - they outperformed their pythag by a whopping 12 games last year......and still lost 91. Also, I had no idea that Jose Pirela had a very nice season for them out of nowhere.
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11. Luis Guillorme, SS
12. Wuilmer Becerra, OF
15. Jhoan Urena, 3B
17. Luis Carpio, SS
20. Ali Sanchez, C
27. Corey Oswalt, RHP
30. Gerson Bautista, RHP
How many 40 man spots do they have? Maybe a year they can poach someone from another team.
I can't see anyone keeping almost anyone on that list on their active roster all season. Maybe Guillorme, he's turned into an interesting prospect. I'd like to see him in camp.
Tyler Bashlor (not listed) is a MUST add for me. He'd be poached and likely never returned. Guillorme would be taken as well. Very limited upside but his glove is playable right now. They have 5 spots at the moment. I suspect Bashlor, Bautista, Guillorme and Oswalt are added, Uceta a shot as well.
Mets are the favorites to sign 2018 July 2nd FA Freddy Valdez according to @BaseballAmerica. Hes 63, 209 pounds, corner outfielder whose best tool is raw power. 15-years old right now.
and that's a big boy for 15.
Seems like it would put an end to some of this and simplify things from an IFA budget standpoint and level the playing field to an extent.
Seems like it would put an end to some of this and simplify things from an IFA budget standpoint and level the playing field to an extent.
Every CBA it comes up and never seems to pass. In theory it's a great idea however it also penalizes teams that actually do the leg work in LA vs. those who don't (I'm looking at you Baltimore).
It just shows what a pos Coppy was/is.
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Maybe he's cooked but his defense was graded out positively (+6 DRS) last year and all of his numbers were close to his usual except BABIP - which was 40 points lower than his career average and 70 points lower than 2016 when he was worth 5.7fWAR.
I'm encouraged that all the targets popping up on the Mets' radar have low k-rates.
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Maybe he's cooked but his defense was graded out positively (+6 DRS) last year and all of his numbers were close to his usual except BABIP - which was 40 points lower than his career average and 70 points lower than 2016 when he was worth 5.7fWAR.
I'm encouraged that all the targets popping up on the Mets' radar have low k-rates.
And provide much needed veteran leadership...
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Maybe he's cooked but his defense was graded out positively (+6 DRS) last year and all of his numbers were close to his usual except BABIP - which was 40 points lower than his career average and 70 points lower than 2016 when he was worth 5.7fWAR.
I'm encouraged that all the targets popping up on the Mets' radar have low k-rates.
And provide much needed veteran leadership...
yup. I'd rather they shop in a younger aisle but beggars can't be choosers.
Maitan likely gone according to Heyman.
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Everyone knew the Braves were in trouble and would lose some recent international prospects. He was insinuating or at least presenting the thought that Acuna would be involved and that isn't true as if yet. Acuna was signed by Frank Wren and had nothing to do with the former GM that resigned.
Ever since Coppy resigned.
The story broke days before Capone mentioned it here FYI
Its not all out yet
Absolutely! My hopes are low though.
It's kind of a big story.
I am wondering if the Padres will be investigated. They spent the most amount of money in that years IFA market and signed most of the top 30 prospects.
Still sour over this?
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Of course they are. Yankee fans have been waiting for 60 years to be able to get revenge for that but fate has yet to bring both teams together again for that shot. Sad.
Don't a lot of teams do the shady shit, they just don't treat everyone like crap in the process?
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Such an awesome signing class that year. Then again, without shady shit there is a chance that Coppy wouldn't have been able to grab these guys anyways.
Don't a lot of teams do the shady shit, they just don't treat everyone like crap in the process?
Yes if Coppy wasn't such an asshole the Braves would be sitting pretty right now. They also had an agreement in place with 14 year old Robert Puason who is the top prospect for the 2020 signing period. They we now banned from signing him.
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Such an awesome signing class that year. Then again, without shady shit there is a chance that Coppy wouldn't have been able to grab these guys anyways.
Don't a lot of teams do the shady shit, they just don't treat everyone like crap in the process?
Yes if Coppy wasn't such an asshole the Braves would be sitting pretty right now. They also had an agreement in place with 14 year old Robert Puason who is the top prospect for the 2020 signing period. They we now banned from signing him.
So if everyone's doing it, Coppy was banned for life because he is a dick?
I don't know why anyone mentions Acuna. He was signed years ago by a different regime.
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is going to get to pick where he wants to go. Apparently this doesn't impact Acuna.
I don't know why anyone mentions Acuna. He was signed years ago by a different regime.
Because he is their top prospect and many baseball fans don't follow the Braves enough to know when or by whom he was signed.
MLB investigation found no wrongdoing on his part. He wasn't the acting GM. Question is, how could he not have known? Either he is lying and got away with it or he was completely oblivious. Either way I'm glad he is gone. Time for new blood.
I do seem to recall someone (maybe a buscone) being fired by the Yanks. Does anyone remember that?
And my beloved Yankees would never cheat, Filthy. Only a Braves (or Mets) fan would insinuate such a shanda.
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Blakeley who was fired with Coppy also came from the Yankees.
Hart was the president Coppy was the GM. Hart re-signed reportedly due to the investigation. He either knew about all of this and did nothing to stop it or he was unaware of what was happening right under his nose. Either way Hart looks bad. With that said Hart played a huge part in the rebuild and I personally am sad to see him go despite the fact that he was more of a consultant than an actual president.
I am glad as well but it wasn't for a lack of trying. They tried desperately to get former Braves exec Dayton Moore to come over as GM but the Royals wouldn't allow it. AA was the fallback option. I am very happy that they didn't bring in Moore as I am not a fan of his. Let's just hope that Anthopoulos isn't pressure to make a big trade in a lame attempt to raise fan morale while giving up several top prospects.
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I've been wanting to get past the Braves way for years. I'm delighted, and surprised, that they picked a GM who doesn't have ties to the old guard.
I am glad as well but it wasn't for a lack of trying. They tried desperately to get former Braves exec Dayton Moore to come over as GM but the Royals wouldn't allow it. AA was the fallback option. I am very happy that they didn't bring in Moore as I am not a fan of his. Let's just hope that Anthopoulos isn't pressure to make a big trade in a lame attempt to raise fan morale while giving up several top prospects.
I think AA will do a good job.
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It wouldn't be surprising if the Mets moved soon on bullpen. One name I keep hearing: Bryan Shaw.