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Been told a few times now that a certain very successful NFL coach wants out from his current team. And no Chicago fans, it’s not Fox. This coach feels it’s time for a change
I wouldn't be so quick to think he wants out as he likely enjoys the area.
Although he's from NJ and his father - a football lifer himself - suffered a stroke a few years ago and is in his mid/late 80s. Jason could very well be looking to take some time away from the game for family, especially with the constant drama surrounding Dallas.
Jason's father still exercises everyday from his hospital bed. He used to run every day. Now he uses a bar to do pull-ups in his bed, since he can't use his legs due to the stroke. He is an amazing guy. He helped me throughout different stages of my life.
Disagree. He doesn't even design the offense, it's Linehan's system. He's little more than a cheerleader who calls time outs (and badly at that).
I hate Dallas, but love Garrett. I know his family very well, and has strong roots in the Jersey Shore. They are great motivators.
Same here. I spent a few afternoons sipping lemonade on the porch of the Whale House with Coach Jim, just talking about football and the Yanks.
The lemonade they make is so fresh. My sister and mother brought a pie over there one time for Coach, and my sister insisted on making some fresh lemonade when she got home because of how good it was. Small world!
fucking year people treat Dallas like they are about to run the goddamned table and they've done absolutely nothing for the over two decades now.
If the Giants had a coach with only 1 playoff win in a pretty long tenure, there'd be yearly calls to get him ousted. Hell, we had a guy with 2 rings and it was "unacceptable" to miss the playoffs 3 years in a row.
if the Giants had arguably the best OL in football, would we be saying the team was "playing hard" if they were on track to miss the playoffs?
If the Giants don't come out in war paint and immediately score or get a 3 and out to start the game, they are said to be "flat". Dallas can have 1 playoff win in this decade, consistently be the favorite of the division and they always play hard?
His teams seem ready to play and play hard for him.
What system he runs, what does that have to do with it?
Not sure of the TO issue, but I'll take your word on that......
IMO, if he got out from under JJ - a very tough working environment - you'd have a pretty good HC.
He's an offensive coach who has nothing to do with the offense. Not saying he's the only one (Mike Tomlin allegedly isn't intimately involved with PITT's defense either), but it does make one wonder about his overall game scheming capabilities. That, and one playoff win in 7 years, 2 of those seasons as a top seed? He'd be run out of NY on a rail.
And, I will add, Garrett had his playcalling duties Â
I can see he is a players coach, and they generally like him. But i have seen him in games where he is completely lost, or it appears that way. Long, blank stares forward, not saying much or doing much. Still, ,just an observation from a non-pro but I don't think he is a good fit for the GMEN.
if the Giants had arguably the best OL in football, would we be saying the team was "playing hard" if they were on track to miss the playoffs?
If the Giants don't come out in war paint and immediately score or get a 3 and out to start the game, they are said to be "flat". Dallas can have 1 playoff win in this decade, consistently be the favorite of the division and they always play hard?
Entirely possible Brady retires after the year and that roster has gotten older. No heir apparent in house. Ties to NYG and he clearly sees what a dumpster fire this situation is. Entirely possible Reese and McAdoo go. I could see Mara giving him full control.
Entirely possible Brady retires after the year and that roster has gotten older. No heir apparent in house. Ties to NYG and he clearly sees what a dumpster fire this situation is. Entirely possible Reese and McAdoo go. I could see Mara giving him full control.
Besides, who wouldn't want out of Boston?
BB has full control.......
Brady has said he wants to play into his 40s.......
Doesn't make sense, but imagine all the coverage if BB came back to the Giants.....WOW.
Entirely possible Brady retires after the year and that roster has gotten older. No heir apparent in house. Ties to NYG and he clearly sees what a dumpster fire this situation is. Entirely possible Reese and McAdoo go. I could see Mara giving him full control.
Besides, who wouldn't want out of Boston?
BB has full control.......
Brady has said he wants to play into his 40s.......
Doesn't make sense, but imagine all the coverage if BB came back to the Giants.....WOW.
I know. What I'm suggesting is that IF Bill felt he needed a change of scenery, he isn't going to a team to just be a coach. He's going somewhere he's got full autonomy. The Maras would be idiots not to give him that.
Brady is already 40. He will be 41 to start next season. Its probable Bill knows how lonf Brady actually intends to play. Between Brady and Gisele and, she's the breadwinner of the family, believe it or not, they are one of the wealthiest couples on the planet. Not sure what the point would be to continue taking a beating every week.
Much as I don't like him and his prettyboy Hollywood image, he lives to play. He's driven to play. Playing football is what he's done his entire life and, so long as he can continue to do it at a high level, why would he stop?
McCarthy..Payton...Carroll.
The middle on is having a great season and team has decided its ID is run first. That may go against his grain...plus. that ' incident'.
Carroll's team is struggling and has fallen since his SB coaching gaffer.
McCarthys Packers need a nice draft to battle improving Lions and Vikings.
Tomlin may be tired of the grind and Ben cant survive the hits much longer...unless he learns to fall.
If they get another Ring...and Gisele says "Tommy !no more football'...he and a 67 y.o. BB may finally ride off into the sunset.
can be true at almost any give time and be completely made up.
But let's assume it's not made up, my ranked odds are:
1. Tomlin: Ben on the cusp of retirement, Bell a UFA and needs to be paid, defense deteriorating, OL hit with suspension, team too good to hit rock bottom and get Ben replacement. He's been there 10 years.
2. McCarthy: look how bad that team is without Rodgers. I get QB is the most important player on the field, but holy shit that offense was brutal with Hundley and they have talent elsewhere. He's been there 11 years.
3. Harbaugh: Flacco looks like dogshit, no skill guys and also too good to hit rock bottom and get a replacement QB. He's been there 9 years.
Long shots for:
Marvin Lewis (hard to see him classified as "successful" let alone very successful, but he does have 7 playoff appearances (no wins, but hey he's been there for 14 years).
Ron Rivera (no real reason just don't see him leaving)
Payton (same with Rivera, but he's slightly less of a long shot to me, he'll stay as long as Brees does IMO).
Pete Carroll (if the change of scenery involved a new NFL team I don't see it, with Russell Wilson and still a good if not quite as dominant defense why move?)
Entirely possible Brady retires after the year and that roster has gotten older. No heir apparent in house. Ties to NYG and he clearly sees what a dumpster fire this situation is. Entirely possible Reese and McAdoo go. I could see Mara giving him full control.
Besides, who wouldn't want out of Boston?
BB has full control.......
Brady has said he wants to play into his 40s.......
Doesn't make sense, but imagine all the coverage if BB came back to the Giants.....WOW.
I know. What I'm suggesting is that IF Bill felt he needed a change of scenery, he isn't going to a team to just be a coach. He's going somewhere he's got full autonomy. The Maras would be idiots not to give him that.
What Bill has in New England will not and cannot be replicated anywhere else. For that reason alone, it is not little Bill.
The amount of fiddling the respective owners of the Bengals and Cowboys do, I think they are massive successes, and probably could do better elsewhere where the owners aren't nearly as involved.
No HC in the history of the NFL has won it twice with different teams. Far as I can tell.
That might be enough of a carrot in in of itself.
This is true, and only a handful have even made a Super Bowl with two different teams: Shula, Parcells, Reeves, Vermeil are the only ones I can think of.
No HC in the history of the NFL has won it twice with different teams. Far as I can tell.
That might be enough of a carrot in in of itself.
This is true, and only a handful have even made a Super Bowl with two different teams: Shula, Parcells, Reeves, Vermeil are the only ones I can think of.
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I think you missed Holmgren with the Packers & Seahawks.
No HC in the history of the NFL has won it twice with different teams. Far as I can tell.
That might be enough of a carrot in in of itself.
This is true, and only a handful have even made a Super Bowl with two different teams: Shula, Parcells, Reeves, Vermeil are the only ones I can think of.
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I think you missed Holmgren with the Packers & Seahawks.
He got there, but he lost the one with the Seahawks.
That would be awesome. Especially during 9/11 ceremonies. He could go around asking police and Feds and firemen to tell him what REALLY happened that day.
No HC in the history of the NFL has won it twice with different teams. Far as I can tell.
That might be enough of a carrot in in of itself.
This is true, and only a handful have even made a Super Bowl with two different teams: Shula, Parcells, Reeves, Vermeil are the only ones I can think of.
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I think you missed Holmgren with the Packers & Seahawks.
He got there, but he lost the one with the Seahawks.
You missed what the gent said...above.
This is true, and only a handful have even made a Super Bowl with two different teams: Shula, Parcells, Reeves, Vermeil are the only ones I can think of.
I think you missed Holmgren with the Packers & Seahawks.
He's assembled a very good coaching staff around him, and he uses that to have his team prepared and playing at a very high level almost every week.
Assembling the coaching staff may be more a credit to the owner in Dallas and a willingness to spend money on coaching, but either way, Garrett gets credit in my book for using them well to have his team prepared.
That's what I miss the most about Coughlin. He may have lost several games with in-game management, but his teams were always prepared and they played hard.
I don't think the Mara's would hire a coach out from under the Rooneys Â
Why I like Garrett...
Dan in the Springs : 6:30 pm : link : reply
He's assembled a very good coaching staff around him, and he uses that to have his team prepared and playing at a very high level almost every week.
Assembling the coaching staff may be more a credit to the owner in Dallas and a willingness to spend money on coaching, but either way, Garrett gets credit in my book for using them well to have his team prepared.
The guy has one playoff win this decade. They go into nearly every season as the favorites. Two years ago they had a horrific record. This year they are more than likely missing the playoffs.
He supposedly has the best OL in the league - so how exactly is his team prepared and playing at a very high level when they've finished in the bottom half of the division more than the top half since 2010??
From 2010 through 2013, they were 4 games under .500. and had 4 straight non-winning seasons. How is that having the team ready to play and playing hard week in and out?
Why I like Garrett...
Dan in the Springs : 6:30 pm : link : reply
He's assembled a very good coaching staff around him, and he uses that to have his team prepared and playing at a very high level almost every week.
Assembling the coaching staff may be more a credit to the owner in Dallas and a willingness to spend money on coaching, but either way, Garrett gets credit in my book for using them well to have his team prepared.
The guy has one playoff win this decade. They go into nearly every season as the favorites. Two years ago they had a horrific record. This year they are more than likely missing the playoffs.
He supposedly has the best OL in the league - so how exactly is his team prepared and playing at a very high level when they've finished in the bottom half of the division more than the top half since 2010??
From 2010 through 2013, they were 4 games under .500. and had 4 straight non-winning seasons. How is that having the team ready to play and playing hard week in and out?
To add to your critique of Garrett - Via Drew Davison of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, the Cowboys have blown 18 halftime leads in Jason Garrett’s tenure. Five times the Cowboys lost games that were tied at halftime.
The Cowboys under Garrett convert 68.4 percent of games into wins when leading at halftime, per Davison, and overcome halftime deficits 33.3 percent of the time. Garrett is not so Great - ( New Window )
Why I like Garrett...
Dan in the Springs : 6:30 pm : link : reply
He's assembled a very good coaching staff around him, and he uses that to have his team prepared and playing at a very high level almost every week.
Assembling the coaching staff may be more a credit to the owner in Dallas and a willingness to spend money on coaching, but either way, Garrett gets credit in my book for using them well to have his team prepared.
The guy has one playoff win this decade. They go into nearly every season as the favorites. Two years ago they had a horrific record. This year they are more than likely missing the playoffs.
He supposedly has the best OL in the league - so how exactly is his team prepared and playing at a very high level when they've finished in the bottom half of the division more than the top half since 2010??
From 2010 through 2013, they were 4 games under .500. and had 4 straight non-winning seasons. How is that having the team ready to play and playing hard week in and out?
Let's take a closer look at what you posted. Yes, only one win this decade. Their horrific record two years ago is directly attributed to Romo being hurt (as can be said for 2010). Garrett took over half way thru that season with Romo already hurt.
They haven't had the best OL going back to 2010.....that unit was completed by drafting center Frederick and guard Martin.
From 2011 thru 2013, they played for the division title on the final day of the season (losing each time). They won the division in 2014 and in 2016. The four games under .500 is directly attributed, again, to Romo being hurt in 2010.
Playing hard - doesn't always translate to wins. I see a ton of effort from his teams. That's just my perception.
IMO, again, I think Garrett would benefit from a change of scenery and be a good choice for a head coach by a franchise.
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I wouldn't be so quick to think he wants out as he likely enjoys the area.
Although he's from NJ and his father - a football lifer himself - suffered a stroke a few years ago and is in his mid/late 80s. Jason could very well be looking to take some time away from the game for family, especially with the constant drama surrounding Dallas.
Jason's father still exercises everyday from his hospital bed. He used to run every day. Now he uses a bar to do pull-ups in his bed, since he can't use his legs due to the stroke. He is an amazing guy. He helped me throughout different stages of my life.
Payton, Tomlin, Carroll -- YES
All others __ NO
Dash = yes.
Underscore = no.
And only three coaches will be acceptable. All others can take a hike - we'll handle this Lord of the Flies style. Got it.
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I'd snatch up Jason Garrett in a second.
I think he's a really good coach.
Disagree. He doesn't even design the offense, it's Linehan's system. He's little more than a cheerleader who calls time outs (and badly at that).
I hate Dallas, but love Garrett. I know his family very well, and has strong roots in the Jersey Shore. They are great motivators.
Same here. I spent a few afternoons sipping lemonade on the porch of the Whale House with Coach Jim, just talking about football and the Yanks.
Yeah, he only has a job because he seems to be willing to let Jerry Jones interfere as much as he wants.
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In comment 13699316 BillKo said:
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I'd snatch up Jason Garrett in a second.
I think he's a really good coach.
Disagree. He doesn't even design the offense, it's Linehan's system. He's little more than a cheerleader who calls time outs (and badly at that).
I hate Dallas, but love Garrett. I know his family very well, and has strong roots in the Jersey Shore. They are great motivators.
Same here. I spent a few afternoons sipping lemonade on the porch of the Whale House with Coach Jim, just talking about football and the Yanks.
The lemonade they make is so fresh. My sister and mother brought a pie over there one time for Coach, and my sister insisted on making some fresh lemonade when she got home because of how good it was. Small world!
Don't we have enough problems ?
If the Giants had a coach with only 1 playoff win in a pretty long tenure, there'd be yearly calls to get him ousted. Hell, we had a guy with 2 rings and it was "unacceptable" to miss the playoffs 3 years in a row.
What's next, pining for Marvin Lewis?
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I'd snatch up Jason Garrett in a second.
I think he's a really good coach.
Disagree. He doesn't even design the offense, it's Linehan's system. He's little more than a cheerleader who calls time outs (and badly at that).
His teams seem ready to play and play hard for him.
What system he runs, what does that have to do with it?
Not sure of the TO issue, but I'll take your word on that......
IMO, if he got out from under JJ - a very tough working environment - you'd have a pretty good HC.
If the Giants don't come out in war paint and immediately score or get a 3 and out to start the game, they are said to be "flat". Dallas can have 1 playoff win in this decade, consistently be the favorite of the division and they always play hard?
Fuck me.
His teams seem ready to play and play hard for him.
What system he runs, what does that have to do with it?
Not sure of the TO issue, but I'll take your word on that......
IMO, if he got out from under JJ - a very tough working environment - you'd have a pretty good HC.
He's an offensive coach who has nothing to do with the offense. Not saying he's the only one (Mike Tomlin allegedly isn't intimately involved with PITT's defense either), but it does make one wonder about his overall game scheming capabilities. That, and one playoff win in 7 years, 2 of those seasons as a top seed? He'd be run out of NY on a rail.
True. But maybe he should ask for them back after Linehan has decided that helping out a replacement LT is immaterial...
Well, maybe...considering the are now missing their best offensive piece, and have a pretty sub par defense....lol.....
IMO, a change of scenery would be good for Garrett.
If the Giants don't come out in war paint and immediately score or get a 3 and out to start the game, they are said to be "flat". Dallas can have 1 playoff win in this decade, consistently be the favorite of the division and they always play hard?
Fuck me.
because they're "Merica's Team"
Entirely possible Brady retires after the year and that roster has gotten older. No heir apparent in house. Ties to NYG and he clearly sees what a dumpster fire this situation is. Entirely possible Reese and McAdoo go. I could see Mara giving him full control.
Besides, who wouldn't want out of Boston?
Entirely possible Brady retires after the year and that roster has gotten older. No heir apparent in house. Ties to NYG and he clearly sees what a dumpster fire this situation is. Entirely possible Reese and McAdoo go. I could see Mara giving him full control.
Besides, who wouldn't want out of Boston?
BB has full control.......
Brady has said he wants to play into his 40s.......
Doesn't make sense, but imagine all the coverage if BB came back to the Giants.....WOW.
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But I bet it's Bill B.
Entirely possible Brady retires after the year and that roster has gotten older. No heir apparent in house. Ties to NYG and he clearly sees what a dumpster fire this situation is. Entirely possible Reese and McAdoo go. I could see Mara giving him full control.
Besides, who wouldn't want out of Boston?
BB has full control.......
Brady has said he wants to play into his 40s.......
Doesn't make sense, but imagine all the coverage if BB came back to the Giants.....WOW.
I know. What I'm suggesting is that IF Bill felt he needed a change of scenery, he isn't going to a team to just be a coach. He's going somewhere he's got full autonomy. The Maras would be idiots not to give him that.
Then again, I thought TC and Eli would too..............
Because he loves it, that's why..............
The middle on is having a great season and team has decided its ID is run first. That may go against his grain...plus. that ' incident'.
Carroll's team is struggling and has fallen since his SB coaching gaffer.
McCarthys Packers need a nice draft to battle improving Lions and Vikings.
Tomlin may be tired of the grind and Ben cant survive the hits much longer...unless he learns to fall.
If they get another Ring...and Gisele says "Tommy !no more football'...he and a 67 y.o. BB may finally ride off into the sunset.
I'm going McCarthy.
But let's assume it's not made up, my ranked odds are:
1. Tomlin: Ben on the cusp of retirement, Bell a UFA and needs to be paid, defense deteriorating, OL hit with suspension, team too good to hit rock bottom and get Ben replacement. He's been there 10 years.
2. McCarthy: look how bad that team is without Rodgers. I get QB is the most important player on the field, but holy shit that offense was brutal with Hundley and they have talent elsewhere. He's been there 11 years.
3. Harbaugh: Flacco looks like dogshit, no skill guys and also too good to hit rock bottom and get a replacement QB. He's been there 9 years.
Long shots for:
Marvin Lewis (hard to see him classified as "successful" let alone very successful, but he does have 7 playoff appearances (no wins, but hey he's been there for 14 years).
Ron Rivera (no real reason just don't see him leaving)
Payton (same with Rivera, but he's slightly less of a long shot to me, he'll stay as long as Brees does IMO).
Pete Carroll (if the change of scenery involved a new NFL team I don't see it, with Russell Wilson and still a good if not quite as dominant defense why move?)
Belichick (not happening)
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In comment 13699530 Modus Operandi said:
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But I bet it's Bill B.
Entirely possible Brady retires after the year and that roster has gotten older. No heir apparent in house. Ties to NYG and he clearly sees what a dumpster fire this situation is. Entirely possible Reese and McAdoo go. I could see Mara giving him full control.
Besides, who wouldn't want out of Boston?
BB has full control.......
Brady has said he wants to play into his 40s.......
Doesn't make sense, but imagine all the coverage if BB came back to the Giants.....WOW.
I know. What I'm suggesting is that IF Bill felt he needed a change of scenery, he isn't going to a team to just be a coach. He's going somewhere he's got full autonomy. The Maras would be idiots not to give him that.
What Bill has in New England will not and cannot be replicated anywhere else. For that reason alone, it is not little Bill.
That might be enough of a carrot in in of itself.
That might be enough of a carrot in in of itself.
This is true, and only a handful have even made a Super Bowl with two different teams: Shula, Parcells, Reeves, Vermeil are the only ones I can think of.
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No HC in the history of the NFL has won it twice with different teams. Far as I can tell.
That might be enough of a carrot in in of itself.
This is true, and only a handful have even made a Super Bowl with two different teams: Shula, Parcells, Reeves, Vermeil are the only ones I can think of.
I think you missed Holmgren with the Packers & Seahawks.
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In comment 13699556 Modus Operandi said:
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No HC in the history of the NFL has won it twice with different teams. Far as I can tell.
That might be enough of a carrot in in of itself.
This is true, and only a handful have even made a Super Bowl with two different teams: Shula, Parcells, Reeves, Vermeil are the only ones I can think of.
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I think you missed Holmgren with the Packers & Seahawks.
He got there, but he lost the one with the Seahawks.
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In comment 13699556 Modus Operandi said:
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No HC in the history of the NFL has won it twice with different teams. Far as I can tell.
That might be enough of a carrot in in of itself.
This is true, and only a handful have even made a Super Bowl with two different teams: Shula, Parcells, Reeves, Vermeil are the only ones I can think of.
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I think you missed Holmgren with the Packers & Seahawks.
He got there, but he lost the one with the Seahawks.
You missed what the gent said...above.
This is true, and only a handful have even made a Super Bowl with two different teams: Shula, Parcells, Reeves, Vermeil are the only ones I can think of.
I think you missed Holmgren with the Packers & Seahawks.
He also played for us.
Assembling the coaching staff may be more a credit to the owner in Dallas and a willingness to spend money on coaching, but either way, Garrett gets credit in my book for using them well to have his team prepared.
That's what I miss the most about Coughlin. He may have lost several games with in-game management, but his teams were always prepared and they played hard.
It's funny when people who aren't funny try to be funny.
Dan in the Springs : 6:30 pm : link : reply
He's assembled a very good coaching staff around him, and he uses that to have his team prepared and playing at a very high level almost every week.
Assembling the coaching staff may be more a credit to the owner in Dallas and a willingness to spend money on coaching, but either way, Garrett gets credit in my book for using them well to have his team prepared.
The guy has one playoff win this decade. They go into nearly every season as the favorites. Two years ago they had a horrific record. This year they are more than likely missing the playoffs.
He supposedly has the best OL in the league - so how exactly is his team prepared and playing at a very high level when they've finished in the bottom half of the division more than the top half since 2010??
From 2010 through 2013, they were 4 games under .500. and had 4 straight non-winning seasons. How is that having the team ready to play and playing hard week in and out?
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Why I like Garrett...
Dan in the Springs : 6:30 pm : link : reply
He's assembled a very good coaching staff around him, and he uses that to have his team prepared and playing at a very high level almost every week.
Assembling the coaching staff may be more a credit to the owner in Dallas and a willingness to spend money on coaching, but either way, Garrett gets credit in my book for using them well to have his team prepared.
The guy has one playoff win this decade. They go into nearly every season as the favorites. Two years ago they had a horrific record. This year they are more than likely missing the playoffs.
He supposedly has the best OL in the league - so how exactly is his team prepared and playing at a very high level when they've finished in the bottom half of the division more than the top half since 2010??
From 2010 through 2013, they were 4 games under .500. and had 4 straight non-winning seasons. How is that having the team ready to play and playing hard week in and out?
To add to your critique of Garrett - Via Drew Davison of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, the Cowboys have blown 18 halftime leads in Jason Garrett’s tenure. Five times the Cowboys lost games that were tied at halftime.
The Cowboys under Garrett convert 68.4 percent of games into wins when leading at halftime, per Davison, and overcome halftime deficits 33.3 percent of the time.
Garrett is not so Great - ( New Window )
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Why I like Garrett...
Dan in the Springs : 6:30 pm : link : reply
He's assembled a very good coaching staff around him, and he uses that to have his team prepared and playing at a very high level almost every week.
Assembling the coaching staff may be more a credit to the owner in Dallas and a willingness to spend money on coaching, but either way, Garrett gets credit in my book for using them well to have his team prepared.
The guy has one playoff win this decade. They go into nearly every season as the favorites. Two years ago they had a horrific record. This year they are more than likely missing the playoffs.
He supposedly has the best OL in the league - so how exactly is his team prepared and playing at a very high level when they've finished in the bottom half of the division more than the top half since 2010??
From 2010 through 2013, they were 4 games under .500. and had 4 straight non-winning seasons. How is that having the team ready to play and playing hard week in and out?
Let's take a closer look at what you posted. Yes, only one win this decade. Their horrific record two years ago is directly attributed to Romo being hurt (as can be said for 2010). Garrett took over half way thru that season with Romo already hurt.
They haven't had the best OL going back to 2010.....that unit was completed by drafting center Frederick and guard Martin.
From 2011 thru 2013, they played for the division title on the final day of the season (losing each time). They won the division in 2014 and in 2016. The four games under .500 is directly attributed, again, to Romo being hurt in 2010.
Playing hard - doesn't always translate to wins. I see a ton of effort from his teams. That's just my perception.
IMO, again, I think Garrett would benefit from a change of scenery and be a good choice for a head coach by a franchise.
2011: 8-8
2012: 8-8
2013: 8-8
Romo was hurt 4 years in a row??
I can think of another coach with middling results that people here couldn't wait to run out of town, and he actually had hardware to show.
Garrett pulls those seasons out, and it is said he has his teams playing hard each and every week?
Holy fuck.