Looks like Wheeler drives his guy back into the endzone on the Darkwa run.
Pretty good for a guy who needs a year in an NFL weight training program. He must be doing something right.
He did, but he had help from Ellison who was driving the DL's hip as well, so it was a combo block. Just the same, it was nice to see the first goal line run he was in and they ran right behind him successfully.
Yeah, I see it now, kind of high/low blocks but of course the "low" part needs to be at the hip. I see how Ellison turned the defender, and with Wheeler driving the "upper", the defender was soundly beaten.
Based on my understanding of the rule,
bumpsinthenight : 3:18 pm : link : reply
the second he has possession, control of the ball where it is not moving; starts the 'catch' process, in that instance, it is a catch.
What you hear from refs and reading the ruling book is the receiver has to 'complete' catch process. IMO it will stay as a catch if they complete the process. This comes into play a lot when the receiver is 'going to ground.' It is a catch the second they have control but they have to maintain it through the entire act to maintain the catch. So if they catch inbounds, while sliding out of the back of the end zone, it is a catch as long as the ball wasn't moving when they were inbounds. Losing or bobbling will start the catch process all over
Shepard's play in the beginning of the season is the go-to example for Giant's fans for the definition of a catch while going to the ground. Shepard caught the ball and it was a catch and would have been ruled complete if he maintained possession after impacting the ground. I don't know of a great analogy but it is like a runner breaking the tape for the world record, it counts at the time as soon as you break the tape but it really isn't a record until the piss test comes back... (dot the Is and cross the Ts) to make it 'official.'
In Lewis's case the minute he as possession it triggers the 'its a catch' and can, therefore, be down by contact but it isn't a completion until he maintains the possession throughout when going to the ground.
There was the other play with King (I think?) where he went to the ground, was touched and then the ball got knocked out. He caught the ball on the ground for a catch. He maintained possesiion while going to the ground so the second he is touched he is down-by-contact, can't be ruled a fumble.
Sure, the Defenders hand is touching Lewis for a millisecond when the ball hits Lewis's body, but if you've been watching any football of late you have seen what they make WR's do before they confirm it's a catch.. By the time Lewis has "control of the ball" and actually makes the catch, there is no one touching him..
Refs can't have it both ways. If you need to make a football move and hold position forever before it's actually catch, then that is clearly a TD.
Anyways, fun that we won and we can argue about it now since it's meaningless.
Pretty good for a guy who needs a year in an NFL weight training program. He must be doing something right.
Pretty good for a guy who needs a year in an NFL weight training program. He must be doing something right.
He did, but he had help from Ellison who was driving the DL's hip as well, so it was a combo block. Just the same, it was nice to see the first goal line run he was in and they ran right behind him successfully.
Refreshing to see TE/OT blocking like that!
Not sure what you're seeing but the defender has his fingers on Lewis' forearm when he's down. That's DBC in my book.
Nice to see that.
And all three working their blocks hard.
Reese has screwed up some things, but he sure did upgrade the TE position in a huge way over last year. Holy crap.
Nice to see that.
And all three working their blocks hard.
Reese has screwed up some things, but he sure did upgrade the TE position in a huge way over last year. Holy crap.
McAdoo was giving Reid a dose of his own medicine with the DT playing FB, the 3 OL play and the halfback pass
bumpsinthenight : 3:18 pm : link : reply
the second he has possession, control of the ball where it is not moving; starts the 'catch' process, in that instance, it is a catch.
What you hear from refs and reading the ruling book is the receiver has to 'complete' catch process. IMO it will stay as a catch if they complete the process. This comes into play a lot when the receiver is 'going to ground.' It is a catch the second they have control but they have to maintain it through the entire act to maintain the catch. So if they catch inbounds, while sliding out of the back of the end zone, it is a catch as long as the ball wasn't moving when they were inbounds. Losing or bobbling will start the catch process all over
Shepard's play in the beginning of the season is the go-to example for Giant's fans for the definition of a catch while going to the ground. Shepard caught the ball and it was a catch and would have been ruled complete if he maintained possession after impacting the ground. I don't know of a great analogy but it is like a runner breaking the tape for the world record, it counts at the time as soon as you break the tape but it really isn't a record until the piss test comes back... (dot the Is and cross the Ts) to make it 'official.'
In Lewis's case the minute he as possession it triggers the 'its a catch' and can, therefore, be down by contact but it isn't a completion until he maintains the possession throughout when going to the ground.
There was the other play with King (I think?) where he went to the ground, was touched and then the ball got knocked out. He caught the ball on the ground for a catch. He maintained possesiion while going to the ground so the second he is touched he is down-by-contact, can't be ruled a fumble.
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Refs can't have it both ways. If you need to make a football move and hold position forever before it's actually catch, then that is clearly a TD.
Anyways, fun that we won and we can argue about it now since it's meaningless.