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NFT: Students blast Steve Martin's King Tut skit as racist

Britt in VA : 11/21/2017 11:54 am
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Students in a humanities class at Reed College blasted the inclusion of the ancient skit in their coursework, branding it a vile example of cultural appropriation — as they demanded that it be removed entirely.

“That’s like somebody … making a song just littered with the n-word everywhere,” a member of Reedies Against Racism told the student newspaper, according to The Atlantic.

The student called the performance, which includes African-Americans clad in faux ancient Egyptian attire, as racist.

“The gold face of the saxophone dancer leaving its tomb is an exhibition of blackface,” the incensed student told The Atlantic.


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Oh great! Real bullets.....  
Britt in VA : 11/21/2017 1:09 pm : link
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MOOPS : 11/21/2017 1:11 pm : link
The REAL TRUTH - FINALLY!  
x meadowlander : 11/21/2017 1:11 pm : link
Everyone knows Steve Martin has DEEP hatred for Egyptians.

(He blames a Egyptian curse for his hair turning white prematurely)
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Britt in VA : 11/21/2017 1:11 pm : link
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That was for the Sam Kinison gif.  
Britt in VA : 11/21/2017 1:12 pm : link
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I'm Egyptian and the shit don't offend me  
Optimus-NY : 11/21/2017 1:21 pm : link
Who the eff cares? Trust me. No Egyptian Americans I know care. Hell, when the Bangles were singing that song in the 80s I wasn't offended either. Teasing got annoying but who cares. Besides, Susanna Hoffs was HAWWWT!
if they watch the Al Jolsen Story they'll need tranquilizers  
gtt350 : 11/21/2017 1:22 pm : link
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RE: Which generation gave birth and raised these millenials?  
pivo : 11/21/2017 1:22 pm : link
In comment 13700372 GiantFilthy said:
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GF - apparently you are not familiar with the definition of a Baby Boomer. They would be the grandparents of these millenials...
This issue is constant exposure to the internet/people’s opinions..  
Sean : 11/21/2017 1:22 pm : link
Shit would be no different if Twitter was around in the 60’s.
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Optimus-NY : 11/21/2017 1:22 pm : link
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LOL! Big ups and props for the Professor Turgeson gif. My hero!
RE: I'm Egyptian and the shit don't offend me  
Britt in VA : 11/21/2017 1:23 pm : link
In comment 13700427 Optimus-NY said:
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Who the eff cares? Trust me. No Egyptian Americans I know care. Hell, when the Bangles were singing that song in the 80s I wasn't offended either. Teasing got annoying but who cares. Besides, Susanna Hoffs was HAWWWT!


I don't think it offends most sensible people.
lol  
Optimus-NY : 11/21/2017 1:25 pm : link
RE: RE: Which generation gave birth and raised these millenials?  
GiantFilthy : 11/21/2017 1:29 pm : link
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GF - apparently you are not familiar with the definition of a Baby Boomer. They would be the grandparents of these millenials...

Millenials go all the way back to 1982, so no, plenty of baby boomer parents of 80's kids.
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njm : 11/21/2017 1:37 pm : link
In comment 13700440 GiantFilthy said:
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GF - apparently you are not familiar with the definition of a Baby Boomer. They would be the grandparents of these millenials...


Millenials go all the way back to 1982, so no, plenty of baby boomer parents of 80's kids.


Fair enough. A blend of Boomer and Gen X parents.

What I find amusing is the lumping of the entire generation of Boomers into some sort monolithic force that had the same experiences and benefits. All you have to do is look what the early Boomers (1946-1950) will have paid in and will get paid out from Social Security in comparison to what late Boomers (1960-1964) will to realize that that concept is a myth.
RE: I'm Egyptian and the shit don't offend me  
Greg from LI : 11/21/2017 1:44 pm : link
In comment 13700427 Optimus-NY said:
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Who the eff cares? Trust me. No Egyptian Americans I know care. Hell, when the Bangles were singing that song in the 80s I wasn't offended either. Teasing got annoying but who cares. Besides, Susanna Hoffs was HAWWWT!


She's in her 50s now but still looks damned good.

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Greg from LI : 11/21/2017 1:46 pm : link
In comment 13700433 Optimus-NY said:
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LOL! Big ups and props for the Professor Turgeson gif. My hero!


Welllll, I didn't know you wanted to get involved in the discussion, Mr. Helper!
RE: RE: Which generation gave birth and raised these millenials?  
Jim in Fairfax : 11/21/2017 1:47 pm : link
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GF - apparently you are not familiar with the definition of a Baby Boomer. They would be the grandparents of these millenials...

Year ranges for generations differ depending on the source, but Boomers are pretty universally defined as 1946-1964. The range for Millennials is is less universal, but 1982-1996 or so is the most common. So the majority of Millennials were born to Boomers.
RE: I'm Egyptian and the shit don't offend me  
Moondawg : 11/21/2017 2:07 pm : link
In comment 13700427 Optimus-NY said:
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Who the eff cares? Trust me. No Egyptian Americans I know care. Hell, when the Bangles were singing that song in the 80s I wasn't offended either. Teasing got annoying but who cares. Besides, Susanna Hoffs was HAWWWT!


Dat side glance.

RE: RE: I'm Egyptian and the shit don't offend me  
Mr. Bungle : 11/21/2017 2:31 pm : link
In comment 13700454 Greg from LI said:
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Who the eff cares? Trust me. No Egyptian Americans I know care. Hell, when the Bangles were singing that song in the 80s I wasn't offended either. Teasing got annoying but who cares. Besides, Susanna Hoffs was HAWWWT!



She's in her 50s now but still looks damned good.


Hoffs is 58. That can't be a very recent picture of her. If she looks like that knocking on 60's door, then she is really ridiculous.
All I can say  
Reb8thVA : 11/21/2017 3:15 pm : link
Is “Get a Fuckin life.” The skit is pure comic genius. It’s called satire.
First of all, what kind of class includes "King Tut"  
Section331 : 11/21/2017 3:16 pm : link
among its curriculum? Even if you wanted to include Steve Martin for some reason, it is one of his worst efforts.

Social mores change. If you were in college in the 80's like I was, you probably cringed at some older cultural pieces and how they treated African or Native Americans. That's what is happening here, we're just getting old!
Ok,  
MBavaro : 11/21/2017 3:25 pm : link
you can be offended. ....................................................................................................................................................................................................









That's all, have a good day!
I kinda agree....  
BillKo : 11/21/2017 3:54 pm : link
that a small number who are outraged at something doesn't define the entire population.

You see this all the time. Someone makes an outrageous statement. He's associated with a certain population. That population is all crazy.

BTW - in fourth grade I always brought this 45 record in and was always chosen to be played!!!!!!!
I also tend to give...  
BillKo : 11/21/2017 3:55 pm : link
comedians a pass on what they do.

It's meant to be funny and may pick on something sensitive........deal with it.
re: APU on the Simpsons  
Les in TO : 11/21/2017 4:16 pm : link
there isa new documentary called the problem with Apu, directed by an Indian-American comedian.

Apu was when the show started in the late 80s, really the only prominent Indian character on a mainstream North American TV show - and he came across as a buffoon who sold expired food and ripped off customers with his "thank you come again" heavily accented slogan. It led to some stereotypes of south Asians and in the case of the future surgeon general, Hasan Minhaj, he was bullied and taunted by other kids who called him Apu. Relative to other racial/ethnic minorities on the show, the stereotypes with Apu were especially pronounced.

Today, there is a broader representation of Indian-American actors in pop culture, but at the time, Apu was the only mainstream character.
RE: I just read that there is backlash against the Simpson's  
PaulBlakeTSU : 11/21/2017 4:19 pm : link
In comment 13700269 pjcas18 said:
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for their Apu character being too much of a negative stereotype.

WTF?

An immigrant, hard working self-employed business owner, good dad, good citizen, but that's a terrible stereotype?

I get the bodega/convenience store thing, but why is that bad? sometimes stereotypes are created based on actual commonalities among a group and aren't always bad.


As the article you posted highlights, there isn't so much a groundswell of backlash as there is a documentary coming out on TruTV by an Indian-American comic (Hari Kondabolu) who examines the Apu character. It seems that he wrestles with the idea that The Simpsons is his favorite show, but the Apu character hits the marks for minstrel characters, especially in the context that Apu was pretty much the only representation of Indians in entertainment for a long time. He interviews current Indian-Americans in entertainment and the effect that Apu has had on them growing up. It also interviews people affiliated with The Simpsons about the character as well.

I think it'll be an interesting documentary.
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The New York Post covering the important issues of the day  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 11/21/2017 4:25 pm : link
As usual.

Here's a more balanced look at what's actually happening at Reed. As usual, it's a small group of agitators who dominate the conversation.
The Surprising Revolt at the Most Liberal College in the Country - ( New Window )
RE: I just read that there is backlash against the Simpson's  
Les in TO : 11/21/2017 4:29 pm : link
In comment 13700269 pjcas18 said:
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for their Apu character being too much of a negative stereotype.

WTF?

An immigrant, hard working self-employed business owner, good dad, good citizen, but that's a terrible stereotype?

I get the bodega/convenience store thing, but why is that bad? sometimes stereotypes are created based on actual commonalities among a group and aren't always bad.
tell that to a kid of south Asian descent who gets his butt kicked in the school yard or is mocked with thank you come again! accented-taunts
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Sarcastic Sam : 11/21/2017 4:29 pm : link
In comment 13700648 Les in TO said:
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there isa new documentary called the problem with Apu, directed by an Indian-American comedian.

Apu was when the show started in the late 80s, really the only prominent Indian character on a mainstream North American TV show - and he came across as a buffoon who sold expired food and ripped off customers with his "thank you come again" heavily accented slogan. It led to some stereotypes of south Asians and in the case of the future surgeon general, Hasan Minhaj, he was bullied and taunted by other kids who called him Apu. Relative to other racial/ethnic minorities on the show, the stereotypes with Apu were especially pronounced.

Today, there is a broader representation of Indian-American actors in pop culture, but at the time, Apu was the only mainstream character.


God, I hope no one finds out about Short Circuit...
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CoughlinHandsonHips : 11/21/2017 5:05 pm : link
This is the problem right here.

Some college class discussion at a liberal college in portland is in no way a barometer on how the country is.
Thank You Britt  
NYG27 : 11/21/2017 5:27 pm : link
I've heard of that skit but had never seen it till now on YouTube. It's damn funny and saw nothing that any reasonable person would find offending.

I'm still laughing and need to check out more classic 70's/80's SNL skits on YouTube.

while an increased awareness  
well...bye TC : 11/21/2017 5:27 pm : link
of racial sensitivity is in and of itself a good thing sometimes it can go too far. this is one of those cases.
If those college kids had issues with that SNL skit  
NYG27 : 11/21/2017 5:30 pm : link
I wonder what they'd think of if they saw classic episodes of All in the Family or The Jefferson's!!!
RE: The New York Post covering the important issues of the day  
njm : 11/21/2017 5:32 pm : link
In comment 13700674 Gary from The East End said:
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As usual.

Here's a more balanced look at what's actually happening at Reed. As usual, it's a small group of agitators who dominate the conversation. The Surprising Revolt at the Most Liberal College in the Country - ( New Window )


Actually that article is more concerning than protesting King Tut. You have a group of students disrupting classes with impunity. Or as the author, and this is The Atlantic not Breibart, wrote

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a clear pattern emerged: intimidation, stigma and silence when it came to discussing Hum110



And Middlebury Lite, they confronted and created health problems for a lecturer who they knew suffered from PTSD. How are those thugs still in school?
RE: RE: The New York Post covering the important issues of the day  
Sarcastic Sam : 11/21/2017 5:36 pm : link
In comment 13700765 njm said:
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And Middlebury Lite, they confronted and created health problems for a lecturer who they knew suffered from PTSD. How are those thugs still in school?


(a) Rich parents
(b) Ethnic quota
(c) No one gives a crap about humanities
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Les in TO : 11/21/2017 6:49 pm : link
In comment 13700683 Sarcastic Sam said:
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God, I hope no one finds out about Short Circuit...
yes and it's racially sensitive Los locos scene!
I do agree that the climate on  
Les in TO : 11/21/2017 7:05 pm : link
Campuses and silencing of debate is ridiculous. At Wilfred Laurier university in Waterloo a grad student/TA was suspended for showing her class a video of a televised debate over a law requiring federal institutions to use the preferred pronoun of students including zer and ze for transgendered students.
Czechs and Slovaks  
Giants_ROK : 11/21/2017 7:26 pm : link
are offended!
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You know what I would like to do  
RobCrossRiver56 : 11/21/2017 7:39 pm : link
go up to the offended and smack them right upside their head, like really hard and say (with a Chris Rock voice)
"what the hell is wrong with you!"
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Sarcastic Sam : 11/21/2017 7:41 pm : link
In comment 13700858 RobCrossRiver56 said:
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go up to the offended and smack them right upside their head, like really hard and say (with a Chris Rock voice)
"what the hell is wrong with you!"




HATE CRIME!
I'd smack her too  
RobCrossRiver56 : 11/21/2017 8:04 pm : link
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RE: Bobby Humphrey  
LauderdaleMatty : 11/21/2017 8:08 pm : link
In comment 13700292 beatrixkiddo said:
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I see it becoming more a mesh between Demolition Man and Idiocracy. But yeah, no doubt our society is in decay, History is cyclical with these things i guess.


Becoming Idocracy? We are there. Just didn't take 500 years.
Holy Christ ....  
short lease : 11/21/2017 10:32 pm : link
good thing Hitler came to power in the 30's and real men dealt with him.

If it was up to these pussies .... we would all be speaking German right now.


RE: .......  
LauderdaleMatty : 11/21/2017 10:35 pm : link
In comment 13700736 CoughlinHandsonHips said:
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This is the problem right here.

Some college class discussion at a liberal college in portland is in no way a barometer on how the country is.


My older son goes to NYU. He’s middle
Of the road libertarian. This is by no means some small solitary type of reaction.
RE: Reed College  
SomeFan : 11/21/2017 10:56 pm : link
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I hear you.
Was it more racist...  
manh george : 11/21/2017 11:24 pm : link
when he did it on roller skates?

I loved the name of his group--The Toot Uncommons.

Here's a quiz, kiddies:

1) what is the difference between ancient cultural appropriation and archaeology?

2) Is it better to know absolutely nothing about ancient civilizations (and what happened before them) than to risk cultural appropriation?

3) Can one fight for civil rights and still have a sense of humor?
RE: Our society will turn into Demolition Man  
TXRabbit : 11/21/2017 11:57 pm : link
More like Equilibrium
millenials  
micky : 11/21/2017 11:57 pm : link
sad
RE: I just read that there is backlash against the Simpson's  
Matt M. : 11/21/2017 11:58 pm : link
In comment 13700269 pjcas18 said:
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for their Apu character being too much of a negative stereotype.

WTF?

An immigrant, hard working self-employed business owner, good dad, good citizen, but that's a terrible stereotype?

I get the bodega/convenience store thing, but why is that bad? sometimes stereotypes are created based on actual commonalities among a group and aren't always bad.
Is it really backlash?I know there is an Indian comedian who has a film out about why Apu is bad. He does it as a documentary and interviews other Indian actors and comedians. I think it is done very tongue in cheek.
Wait until they show those kids  
Matt M. : 11/22/2017 5:41 am : link
All in the Family.
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